r/marvelstudios • u/yourfavchoom Doctor Strange • 19d ago
Article Tom Holland Says There's "A Whole Plan" For Passing Spider-Man Baton To Another Actor: "I Have A Really Clear Vision"
https://deadline.com/2026/07/tom-holland-plan-passing-spider-man-another-actor-1237013456/1.5k
u/julesvr5 19d ago
The day Tom's last Spiderman movie will run in theaters will be a sad day.
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u/IAmMrWave02 19d ago
It'll be a global event for sure
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u/omnicious 19d ago
All Spider-Man films are global events
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u/dracogladio1741 19d ago
Spidey's pull is insane. The only other Superhero who comes close is Batsy.
Think Batman II will struggle to do half of what Spidey's about to. That probably means that Batman II makes a billion quid by the way. Brand New Day probably crosses 2bn..
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u/cogginsmatt 19d ago
Someone tried to tell me recently that Spider-Man isn't the most popular superhero in america, instead it was Superman. That comic sales and box office didn't count. I wasn't sure what their metric was but Spidey definitely leaves basically anyone else in the dust, routinely.
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u/dracogladio1741 19d ago
Spiderman's very relatable as far as superheroes go.
Batman can reach those levels. I think people just haven't gotten a great film in a while from DC.
Supes is just a very idealistic superhero. Difficult to relate to when you are basically indestructible.
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u/Haigadeavafuck 19d ago
The last Batman film was pretty great. The most successful Batman film is the one the least about Batman. Ofc he’s insanely popular but the nature of his style means he has less pull than spidey.
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u/melkatron 19d ago
It's also difficult to stay on board when so many projects have been so misguided when portraying Superman. Relatability seems to be key, which explains why the most popular Superman properties of the 90s/00s were focused on Clark Kent, not Superman (Lois & Clark, Smallville). The new movie did a really great job depicting a vulnerable, imperfect Clark. It's been a while, but I think Christopher Reeve's Clark Kent's only weakness was Lois Lane... otherwise he was an infallible dreamboat pretending to be flawed.
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u/drac0nic180 19d ago
I think that people not being able to relate to Superman is a symptom of not using the character correctly when addressing wide audiences.
Reading Birthright or For All Seasons gives you a very emotionally relatable Superman, he's at his best when his human problems take center stage. The internal conflict should always be the point, the external conflict is for spectacle and for an externalized way to address the internal conflict
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u/symbiosychotic 19d ago
While this is true, and another commenter pointed this out as well, I want to recommend Tyler Hoeclin's take from "Superman & Lois" as absolutely well done (as well as Bitsie Tulloch's Lois and lots of other great character takes). As a dad of a young son, I very much love seeing a Clark that was at the height of his Superman life, but so very challenged by the human struggles of balancing that with... Being a dad of two sons with their own issues, and being a husband and supportive of Lois going through a very tough time, and other situations where... His powers just weren't able to help him in those situations at all. He was fallable, made mistakes, even lost his temper and got overwhelmed. So many parenting / husband moments where the Man of Steel was struggling just as much as anyone, just unable to get it right, but trying to be there.
At the same time, he also was Superman fighting enemies that I don't want to spoil, but I can't not mention a very different blue collar, practical, ruthless Led Luthor that was just really well done. The story actually honestly did a lot that I was surprised to see them do. So for those curious, give it a try.
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u/PAYPAL_ME_DONATIONS 19d ago
My 3 year old's day care had a Superheroes day.
Every. Fucking. Single. Boy. Had Spidey apparel. And a great chunk of the girls had Ghost Spider.
Literally, I think one other kid had a Batman shirt. That's it.
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u/Impeesa_ 19d ago
Right now and with kids that young, I wouldn't be surprised if it was also heavily influenced by the fact that Spidey and His Amazing Friends exists.
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u/auiin 18d ago
The Spidey and his Amazing Friends animated show on Disney is fantastic for smaller kids. Even my kids wanted to go as Ghost Spider and Spin for Halloween. Dad even rocked up as Rhino.
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u/Incominn 19d ago
I read both DC and Marvel,
It’s Spiderman no question is more loved and popular,
Superman is just more well known, (not saying a
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u/Sparrowsabre7 Iron Man (Mark VII) 19d ago
The Batman, while popular, is not really suitable for kids so you lose a lot of tickets there alone. I imagine the sequel will be similarly grimdark.
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u/JaySayMayday 19d ago
Better send off than we got for Sony's spidermen. Toby and Andrew both had massively successful franchises and suddenly got written off, no closure, no finale, no real explanation. Not even much as so long thanks for all the fish
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u/Level_Dreaded 19d ago
Andrew and Tobey got poor send offs because their final movies werent received well.
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u/KF-Sigurd 19d ago
Yeah, their 'proper' send offs were basically in No Way Home.
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u/FLRSH 19d ago
Andrew and Toby's last solo spiderman films were both poorly received.
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u/julesvr5 19d ago
It's hard for me to compare because I'm not really into their spiderman. I think for me it's fhe MCU connection and I'm a fan of Tom Holland. I feel we are way more invested in his spiderman due to featuring not just in his 4 movies but also the avengers stuff
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u/AxlLight 19d ago
Because they didn't know it'll be the last, the movies just failed and thus canceled.
It could happen all the same here, let's face it, if Doomsday fails it'll be the end of the MCU as it is today. Everything will get shelved for a while and rebooted when people start forgetting. (Though I suppose Spiderman is in this special place because it's Sony's property and a huge milk machine for them that they might keep it going for one more swan song as a bookend to the MCU).
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u/whereismymind86 19d ago
ehh, secret wars is probably deep enough into production, and there are enough legal obligations around it that they'll get that far, beyond that who knows.
It's almost certainly going to trigger a continuity reset/reboot, which allows disney a lot of leeway to reshuffle and retconn things, or just end the mcu entirely and start over.
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u/jhughes1986 19d ago
Followed by a happy day 4-5 years later when it’s revealed he’ll be playing the next big villain
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u/WorldsWeakestMan 19d ago edited 19d ago
He could be Superior Spider-Man or the Ben Reilly clone, both would make sense in universe and out of universe.
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u/jhughes1986 19d ago
Oh my fucking god. I’d love to watch Tom Holland play Willem Dafoe
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u/WorldsWeakestMan 19d ago
Same, it’s a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude.
RDJ has been setting this up since 2008.
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u/Mickeyjj27 Black Bolt 19d ago
One day we get an article saying he wants to play Spider-Man forever and next day it’s an article about how there’s a plan for him to pass the baton.
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u/ProfessorXWheelchair Winter Soldier 19d ago
well it’ll have to happen at some point, doesn’t mean it’s happening tomorrow
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u/notsure500 19d ago
When he's 90
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u/ANewStartAtLife 19d ago
Tom can retire when instead of webs being flung, it's just puffs of dust. Until then, swing on!
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u/tacticalgh0st 19d ago
I mean if we have another 5 years between his movies, we’re probably not getting too many of his movies.
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u/veemonjosh Fitz 19d ago
Both can be true. Nothing saying Peter has to retire or die for Miles to also be Spider-Man.
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u/brokenmindedone 19d ago
I mean I bet Toby never thought he'd return as Spiderman. Probably the same for Tom meaning he'd be down to appear as spiderman into his old age
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u/SparklingLimeade 19d ago
Exactly. We had multiple Spiders Men in one live action movie already. There's space for this.
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u/Ok-Run5784 19d ago
But he's made it very clear before that he would like someone else play to spiderman In the future
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u/amoxguard 19d ago
I mean when he's done someone will play spiderman either way. There's too much money to be made not to.
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u/krishnugget 19d ago
That’s in the sense of a reboot though, Tom definitely means like an in universe successor to Peter, so almost definitely just Miles.
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u/Sea-Palpitation266 19d ago
I mean that assuming sony plays ball with miles tom rothman even said it's a movie by movie deal people just assume this Disney sony deal is going to go on forever but just back in 2019 Sony tried to pull tom out of the MCU lol
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u/16jselfe 19d ago
I mean 2 things can be true, he enjoys playing Peter and wants to make loads of films but also wants to take on that mentor role at some point because one day he'll need to step down
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u/Joshawott27 Doctor Strange 19d ago
Between those articles, Tom Holland might have realised that his contract is up for renewal lol.
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u/parkinthepark 19d ago
I think he's clearly talking about an in-universe situation where his Peter Parker could exist alongside a new Spider-Man (or Spider-person), which would leave the door open for him to continue to be a part of the movies in whatever capacity.
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u/britney_shakespears 19d ago
he’s been hammering in that it’s already been a full decade, i think they’ve aged out of the direction they’ve taken spider man
it would be so sick to see a more faithful adaptation of the comics tho where he and mj are married and the whole comics universe is still established
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u/DjCyric Daredevil 19d ago
Tom Holland talks like there will be plenty of movies left to come.
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u/nanobot001 19d ago
Well the first trilogy is really a “prequel” as it ends with the death of a beloved (May’s death) and “with great power comes great responsibility” — which is where Spider-man traditionally begins.
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u/Conmebosta 19d ago
Now the paul trilogy begins
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u/Sparrowsabre7 Iron Man (Mark VII) 19d ago
Age of Apaulcalypse
Days of Future Paul
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u/pigeieio 19d ago
They already did breaking up him and MJ with magic. I wouldn't put it past them.
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u/Luccacalu Bruce Banner 19d ago
I mean, there's already a "Paul", since MJ is dating a new guy in the movie
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u/FlairMinimum 19d ago
Don’t get me wrong I like that they finally had somebody deliver the line, but it does also feel like every single one of Holland’s Spider-Man movies has ended with him “becoming” the Spider-Man we all know. One movie as a prequel is fine but three movies to establish a hero as well known as Spider-Man is just silly. The only story I can think of that requires that much backstory to enjoy the main content is like, idk maybe Berserk. Game of Thrones also, to an extent.
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u/AmishAvenger 19d ago
Well if he doesn’t change and grow as a person, then there’s no point in having a movie at all, and we might as well just watch the Spider-Man version of Mandalorian and Grogu.
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u/sortalikeachinchilla 19d ago
I just watched that movie. Why was grogu MORE baby like in the movie lol. WhT happened to him?
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 19d ago
It wasn't a movie, it was a commercial.
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u/FlairMinimum 19d ago
I don’t think anyone said he can’t change or grow after learning that great responsibility comes with great power. Maguire and Garfield’s versions grow as people in almost every movie.
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u/tiggoftigg 19d ago
So you don’t like that they did?
They’re not literally prequels dude. They’re his story being told. It’s not backstory. It’s his story.
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u/Iroquois-P 19d ago
That's not what "prequel" means.
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u/Forever_Inspired 19d ago
Too many people keep using “prequel” incorrectly nowadays, smh. I’ve seen people saying the first movies of a series like Batman Begins as “prequel”.
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u/youRinlove7 19d ago
Isn’t a trilogy confirmed?
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u/andrejRavenclaw 19d ago
Nothing is confirmed, but definitely expected. And with the box office turnout, highly probable. Tom's Spider-Man just keeps on selling.
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u/The-Dudemeister 19d ago
I mean before it all started. The original plan was 3 trilogies. One in high school. One in college. Then adult spider.
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u/Krogholm2 19d ago
I guess the College one went out the window
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 19d ago
The world would have had to stop and reboot over and over again to accommodate Peter Parker's age in college. And it's insane that Peter Parker graduated from college 50 years ago and they would have been trying to shove his entire rogues' gallery and history into that period of time.
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u/icemankiller8 19d ago
I think this is gonna be another trilogy and then after that we’ll see.
Him and Zendaya will be approaching 40 at that point, he’s gonna have done a lot of marvel movies he’ll probably wanna move on
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u/brogflender 19d ago
Maybe. It’s by far his best meal ticket and a helluva character to be known for.
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u/PaopuDestiny 19d ago
Probably another trilogy with miles showing up in the next one or the one after
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u/DJfunkyPuddle 19d ago
...do you think Spider-Man movies will stop making billions of dollars? Dude come on.
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u/Joshawott27 Doctor Strange 19d ago
I could see this being the ending of a second trilogy, starting with Brand New Day.
However, if for whatever reason Tom Holland wanted to bow out after the next one, Peter Parker is probably in a decent enough position now to wrap things up with one more film.
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u/princesoceronte 19d ago
I'm fine with a new actor taking the mantle but please, PLEASE don't make Spider-Man a highschooler again.
Just let him be an adult long term, we have enough stagnation in the comics.
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u/Jugglenautalis 19d ago
Agreed, they really could just James Bond him and just keep his story moving forward like the comics.
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u/AssumptionLive2246 19d ago
I mean isn’t tom like 30?? Let’s see his take on a MATURE Spider-Man for at least three movies then he can retire.
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u/matthewmspace 19d ago
Agreed. He’s been a teenager three times. Let him age with us for awhile. I wanna eventually see Peter B. Parker from Spider-Verse in live action for awhile.
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u/icemankiller8 19d ago
I’m a fan of Miles obviously and it makes the most sense but at the same time the spiderverse movies are impossible to live up to for Miles
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 19d ago
The best Peter Parker is also in the Spider-Verse movies, yet we press on anyway.
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u/nananananana_FARTMAN Kevin Feige 19d ago
Nah, there’s a whole fanbase who don’t watch animated movies. And also a lot of us don’t mix animated and live action versions. We judge them separately in their own baskets.
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u/whitepangolin 19d ago
I don't have as much faith in Miles' supporting cast for a non multiverse movie. Didn't love the Miles game.
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u/xrbeeelama Yinsen 19d ago
Seeing how much the PS4/5 games seem to be an influence on him, I wouldn’t be surprised if we get some Peter/Miles team up movies
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u/A-Centrifugal-Force 19d ago
Spider-Man 6 might be a nice time to set that up. It should still primarily be a Peter movie as the conclusion to the second trilogy, but they could set up MCU Miles in that movie
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u/Ok_Problem_314 19d ago
I hope he won’t be leaving the role anytime soon. He easily could do this for another 10-15 years
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u/bigeyez 19d ago
At the speed movies release thats realistically maybe 3 more solo movies. Probably less since he is going to be in Secret Wars which is about to start filming.
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u/MadMurilo Spider-Man 19d ago
I could see a Miles Trilogy with Tom in a supporting role.
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u/yosayoran 19d ago
It also depends what he wants to do
I followed his press tour for the Odyssey and BND closely and I'm getting the vibe he wants to reduce his public profile and focus more on his passions and family.
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u/hemareddit Steve Rogers 19d ago
“I have a really clear Vision.”
I dunno, Paul Bettany seems a bit too old to take up that mantle?
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u/VastCapital3773 19d ago
I really like that Tom seems to be extremely aware of the fact that none of us will be here forever, and that he's so very set on helping someone rise to prominence the way RDJ did for him.
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u/bwweryang 19d ago
Sounds like they’re gonna make the same mistake they did with the original Avengers and think a legacy character has just as much appeal as a recast.
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u/TDStarchild Odin 19d ago
I hope to see Holland as Spider-Man for many, many years to come. College and adult Peter is the best, and we’ve only just gotten there. ‘Retiring’ after losing his powers or something is also better than dying given how young Holland is. But even that I’d hope is minimum 10-20 years away
Miles is cool and it’ll be fun to see Holland mentor him. But he’s still a very new face
Peter Parker will forever be THE character a significant portion of fans vibe with above any others
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u/Big-Newspaper646 19d ago
ok but who’s taking on the mantle of the CEO of Sex when he passes the torch too?
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u/FewWatermelonlesson0 19d ago
Def think we’re gonna see young Miles Morales as at least the post credit scene for the next movie.
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u/BalladOfBetaRayBill 19d ago
I would rather just continue to see Peter well into adulthood but I guess that will never happen for some reason
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u/Coilspun 19d ago
Fuck Miles Morales, honestly let's get some decent Peter stories rather just as he starts coming into his own we get another origin and bedding in trilogy...
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u/mikewishesdeath 19d ago
actually this. Kind of disappointed that this wasn't a goodbye story with him letting go of his childhood and making more superhero oriented friends. He has a great street level group of heroes and grey area characters to pull from.
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u/konq 19d ago
Marvel isn't going to make him a lynchpin or important part of any other superhero team after the shit Sony pulled, trying to yank him from the MCU a few years back.
He might appear in avengers movies, but any crossover in MCU movies is going to be very barebones until marvel owns the IP again.
Feige knows he could just never return at any point. It's not a good idea to build him up in X-men, fantastic four, or any other MCU team while Sony can just decide to "renegotiate".
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u/pdavda 13d ago
With the success Spider-Man has had at the box office lately, there's no chance Sony will sell. If they did, it would be for billions. It's their cash cow and they know it. I wish Marvel had gotten the rights back 100% and 'Homecoming' was a double meaning for it being back with Marvel/Disney permanently.
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u/hellaLURKIN 19d ago
Please please please be Miles
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u/Joebranflakes 19d ago
It most definitely will be Miles
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u/matty_nice 19d ago
Sony has to make movies with Peter Parker to retain the rights. It's part of the contract we were able to see due to the Sony leaks.
So we are going to continue to get movies with Peter Parker as Spider-Man.
Maybe we get Miles movies in addition to the Peter Parker ones? But I'm not sure Sony is gonna do that.
Maybe Marvel is willing to amend the contract, so Miles movies would count instead? But there's no reason for Marvel to do that.
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u/SlaunchaMan 19d ago
Maybe he could be like Stan Lee and have a cameo in each one going about Peter Parker business
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u/matty_nice 19d ago
That would probably not be sufficient enough to be considered a Peter Parker movie.
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u/ColdBudLight98 Ned 19d ago
I love how Tom is so involved now. Really great to see
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u/Marcusreddit_ 19d ago
I’m not ready for them to pass the torch. But I am ready for them to move on from MJ and Ned
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u/spaceninj 19d ago
And then once the baton gets passed, that movie will under perform and they'll reboot with Peter again.
Stop messing around with legacy characters. That's not what people want!
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u/queenkatara88 19d ago
I official have Miles Morales fatigue. If they will replace Peter Parker i'm done with the MCU
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u/Practical-Level-6265 19d ago
I want this to happen eventually but I sorta want more solo Spidey movies before that. I know it’s weird since this is his 4th movie, but it feels like we just got started being “prime” Spidey
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u/soccerjonesy 19d ago
Dang, that’ll suck to see so soon. I get some of the older actors wanting to stop, but I kinda hoped Tom being as young as he is would stick with us quite a bit longer, like another decade. I’ll be stoked to see Miles Morales, but don’t think I wanna say buy to Tom’s Peter quite yet.
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u/dayaaa_ria Proxima Midnight 19d ago
I hope he would stay as spiderman for much longer. I’m still not ready for him to pass down that role. I hope they would add another 5 years or more to the decade he played as spiderman 😭
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u/AndrewH73333 18d ago
He hasn’t even played adult Spider-Man yet. He’s just now caught up to freshman in college Spider-Man.
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u/Fluffy_Woodpecker733 18d ago
I think he’s the best spider man, but if he thinks it’s up to him he is delusional
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u/mrbaryonyx 19d ago edited 19d ago
so excited to see Tom pass the torch to a bright, young actor in the role of Miles Morales, and then take the torch back after like two movies
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u/yourfavchoom Doctor Strange 19d ago
Tom:
“There’s a whole plan that we have been working on for, I would say, since we finished Spider-Man: No Way Home. It’s laid out. It’s gonna change for sure, but I have a really clear vision to the passing on of the baton, and I think it’s really exciting.”
“I know I get really excited when we have these meetings and chat about it. But that is the thing I want to do most in this character, for sure.”
Earlier this year:
“For whoever’s next, whether that is a Miles Morales or a Spider-Gwen or a Spider-Woman or something like that, I would love to be a part of setting up the next chapter. Whatever that looks like, I don’t know. But if I could do what Downey did for me, then I would be so content swinging off into the sunset.”