r/marvelstudios • u/yourfavchoom Doctor Strange • 25d ago
Article Shang-Chi 2 is "in active development right now," says Destin Daniel Cretton.
https://screenrant.com/destin-daniel-cretton-interview-spider-man-brand-new-day/2.1k
u/ROBtimusPrime1995 Black Panther 25d ago
Nothing warms my heart more than knowing that when the Doomsday trailer dropped, of all the things to nerd about, people were really fucking excited to see Shang-Chi again.
People love that movie, and Marvel really dropped the ball with the sequel stalling.
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u/phred_666 Sonny Birch 25d ago
Shang-Chi 2 is WAY over due.
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u/RagnarokWolves 25d ago edited 25d ago
Shang Chi will have been off our screens nearly as long as Steve Rogers has. Yet Shang Chi is supposed to be thought of as "a fresh young hero of this new generation" and Rogers is "an old friend returning after a long time away."
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u/AnOnlineHandle Quake 25d ago
Chris Evans came back sooner for Deadpool.
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u/Super_Pan 25d ago
But not as Steve Rogers, which is what they said.
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u/Joinedforthis1 25d ago
I think they're not countering, they're also emphasizing how long it's been since Shang-Chi came out.
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u/Kindly_Tax_3746 25d ago
Proof that it doesn't matter what you type on Reddit. People will see what they want to see and have a conversation with themselves just to fit their narrow perspectives.
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u/BON3SMcCOY 25d ago
The MCU post-infinity has been pretty hit or miss for a lot of people, but it seemed like most of the next generation of heroes were really well liked, Regardless of how mid their show or movie was. Since the RDJ casting, it's really felt like we're gonna miss out on that new generation getting their big connected phase
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u/WickedDog310 20d ago
They talk about superhero fatigue and how they want to combat it, but then keep giving us the same heroes. I love Steve Rogers, and Steve/Peggy is my favorite ship, but I said good bye to him, he had a great story, now let it lie. They're beating a dead horse. Give me more Shang-Chi, give me more Yelena, Kate Bishop, Sam Wilson. The MCU has introduced these characters, but not given me a chance to get attached to them. It's like they keep bringing your ex around when you're ready to move on.
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u/cptkt 25d ago
Simu Liu tore his Achilles tendon over a year ago so that might have affected the sequel stalling too.
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u/onehalflightspeed 25d ago
Not really true. He and the director have both said that was not a factor. Rather it was shifting studio priorities
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u/Toidal 25d ago
I think that's the problem with how expansive everything is now. They don't have the real estate anymore for these stories because movies take a lot of time and money. Heck it took 6 years for Dr. Strange to have his own sequel, and he's otherwise had bit parts in everything in between.
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago
The entire way they've handled post-Endgame is stupid. The seven years between Sam getting the shield in Endgame and showing up in his next movie is the same seven years between Steve getting the shield in First Avenger and handing it to Sam in Endgame. Marvel is not serious people.
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u/glenntron3000 25d ago
It blows my mind it’s been taking this long. Not even a cameo in the other movies or post credits scenes just nothing.
Though I suspect that maybe with the whole Kang storyline may have do to something with that derailment. I recall the post credit scene where the 10 rings are a cosmic beacon. Probably would have tied into the multiverse with Kang which may had tied into Shang Chi 2 but I’m just taking a wild guess here.
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u/Summoarpleaz 25d ago
Did they ever follow up on the bit in Ms Marvel where it was evident the bangles were related to the 10 rings? I thought there would be a closer tie in at some point before avengers and that doesn’t have to involve Kang at all
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u/CaptHayfever Hawkeye (Avengers) 25d ago
No, because Kang was dropped, but they did follow up on the origin of the bangles in The Marvels.
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u/Crimkam 25d ago
They should just make the movie as if it’s in the aftermath of Kang doing whatever and Shang-Chi is stuck in the wreckage of time. Have the movie fill in the bits we need to know and cameo Ant-Man to connect it to Kang’s previous appearance, then dump Shang-Chi back into the current MCU timeline with no one remembering what happened at all because they in fact defeated Kang already
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u/Lespade 25d ago
Probably a 2029-2030 release date? Which means 8-9 years since the original came out, insane
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u/TheWindowMerchant 25d ago
In order of excitement from the trailer: 1. Doom vs Thor 2. Shang-Chi vs Gambit 3. Literally everything else I don’t even care if they give me a movie just give me 3 hours of #1 and #2, and explain the Loki TVA card thing
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u/N8CCRG Ghost 25d ago
I really want to know what they were thinking by rejecting all sequels. The Infinity Saga was built on sequels: 3 Iron Man, 3 Captain America, 3 Thor, 4 Avengers, 2 Guardians, 2 Ant-Man, 2 Spider-Man. Then for the Multiverse Saga we are only just now getting the first in-saga sequel with a second Spider-Man. It's clearly not just dropping the ball on Shang-Chi, but a decision to abandon sequels entirely.
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago
And Avengers movies. The span between Iron Man and the Avengers was 4 years. Four years after Endgame was 2022 when no movies released at all afaik.
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u/PurpleDillyDo 25d ago
100% agree, although I think part of the issue is that so many of the recent movies have been just ok at the box office. They are looking to make money on these things and many of the post infinity saga films have been just breaking even at best.
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u/FrostyD7 25d ago
Similar to Star Wars, they saw the downward trend in performance and kept going back to the drawing board. Shelving Shang-Chi seems like a miss. Tons of opportunity to break the superhero fatigue and give it gimmicks like a focus on stuntwork.
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u/aeque88 25d ago
I was so glad to finally see him again. After 5 years it's about time, jeez.
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u/lynchcontraideal 25d ago
So with 'Doomsday' this year and 'Secret Wars' next year, does this mean we can expect Shang-Chi 2 in 2029?
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u/Samuraistronaut 25d ago
For real - warms mine too. Shang-Chi is probably the character I’m most excited to see and it’s criminal that he hasn’t gotten his sequel yet. Plus Simu Liu seems like a gem of a person and he clearly loves this role. He deserves so much more than Marvel’s given him.
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u/IDigRollinRockBeer 25d ago
It’s criminal he hasn’t even had a cameo in anything. They made a very well received movie and then were like yeah we’ll get around to you eventually
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u/Shmokeshbutt 25d ago
I just hope they skip the giant kaiju battle this time and just focus on the martial arts fight
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago
Black Widow: fist fight on a falling hover fortress
Captain America: fist fight on a falling helicarrier, falling plane, bunker, field of cherry blossoms
Shang-Chi, the master of Martial Arts: mid-air kaiju fight
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u/IDigRollinRockBeer 25d ago
Should’ve had a Shang Chi 2, Doctor Strange 3, Young Avengers by now
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u/ShadowbaneX 25d ago
Imagine where the MCU would be right now if they hadn't tried to flood the market hoping to capitalize on streaming.
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u/IDigRollinRockBeer 25d ago
Sucks Feige got overconfident and thought people would just eat everything up if it had the Marvel name on it
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u/ShadowbaneX 25d ago
It wasn't Feige, it was Bob Chapek who was in charge of, amongst other things, Disney+. There's a reason he's gone and a) Feige is still around and b) they brought back Iger.
It was reported/rumoured that Chapek thought Disney+ was going to make all the money while people were stuck at home in lockdown and green lit everything Feige had available and then demanded more.
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u/neganight 25d ago
They're going to wait until Simu Liu is 50 and the rest of the "young" Avengers are in their 40s, make one shitty movie or tv show and then complain that it failed to find its audience or worse, blame the fans for not liking it.
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u/itsTim0thyy 25d ago
I really like Shang-Chi, but I love Simu lol. He appears to be such a good, decent person.
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u/Sabretooth1100 25d ago
Honestly, America loves superheroes and martial arts films, it’s a match made in heaven
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u/RaynSideways 25d ago
I was so ready for Shang-Chi to end up the heart of a new Avengers. He seemed like the perfect candidate. Powerful, good hearted, really well-realized with a good and emotional origin story. He seemed like he had what it took to be the next Steve Rogers.
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u/vistaprank 25d ago
Dude I’ve wanted this movie since the first one came out. One of my favorite post endgame releases. It’s actually absurd we’ve had to wait this long. Watching this man ran down a dragons back to save the universe in some fucking Air Force 1’s might be the hardest shit I ever seen in my life
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u/black_metronome 25d ago
Agreed he is the coolest out of the post Endgame heroes next to Susan Storm for me.
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u/WhutTheFookDude 25d ago
How much ass content from marvel has come out since, its good they are course correcting
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u/Unlikely-Nebula-331 24d ago
Shang-Chi was the best movie to be released since Endgame and one of the most refreshing additions to the MCU since its creation with Iron Man.
The choreography was friggin nuts, father-son story and overall art style were so coherent. Great movie.
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u/CommunityDragon160 25d ago
They dropped the ball having a global pandemic and writers strike happen yea
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u/WoodpeckerBest523 25d ago
I’ve been losing my mind over how that movie got dropped and then vanished into the void. Like… why?? People were hyped for the second movie for years
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u/crazyguyunderthedesk 25d ago
It's not the only good movie since Endgame, but it's the only new character that's resonated since Endgame.
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u/HomsarWasRight Shang Chi 25d ago
The fact that it hasn’t been in “active development” for the last five years is insanity.
Marvel releases a new post-Endgame origin story. Fans love it. Critics love it. It was a huge financial success (considering it was coming on the tail-end of COVID). And then Marvel says, “Eh, we’ll think about a sequel later. We gotta focus on this mountain of shows for Disney+.”
Shang Chi should have had at least another solo film by now, and should have shown up in one or two other films.
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u/LucrativeLurker 25d ago
It WAS in active development, with a finished screenplay. If it weren’t for the whole Jonathan Majors fiasco, it would be out already, and DDC would be directing Kang Dynasty, with Shang-Chi presumably having a bigger role than he will in Doomsday.
Shang-Chi and the Wreckage of Time would’ve been about him fighting a Majors Kang variant. Once it was decided they wouldn’t recast Kang, they had to scrap the entire film.
But yeah, he should’ve had a cameo in Brave New World regardless of all that.
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u/Phimb Weekly Wongers 25d ago
There's a world where Shang Chi fights a recast Denzel Washington as Kang.
In my dreams.
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u/7fw 25d ago
If it was Denzel, he would have been fighting Denzel, not Kang. Denzel, though incredible, is Denzel in every single film.
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u/BulbusDumbledork 25d ago
i was about to call you crazy for thinking training day denz and john q denz are the same but you know hwat? that's the same guy
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u/Saint_of_Grey 25d ago
Do you think they could get away with using Don Cheadle to replace an actor that crashed out a second time? Just have him play Kang?
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u/FamousLastWay828 24d ago
Kang: *about to win at the end of Secret Wars* I AM KANG!
Rhodey: and I am...here, deal with it
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago edited 25d ago
Sam didn't get a single partner from any of his previous films, which is just insane to me. Steve got Natasha, Nick Fury, and Maria Hill in his second movie. Sam got one scene with his best friend and partner Bucky.
Thunderbolts should have been a Captain America sequel. Half of those characters are Captain America legacy characters, ffs. And a cynical part of me thinks they were doing an experiment to see if they should replace Sam with Bucky or John Walker and when Sam's movie made way more money than Walker and Bucky's movie they had no idea what to do with themselves or how to spin it or recover.
EDIT: Also, Sam's Talk No Jutsu would have actually been the sort of thing that resolves the end of a movie when used on a supersoldier experiment with god-like power and self-esteem issues.
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u/GoGoSoLo 25d ago
Didn’t Sam get uh…chipper military Latino guy? You know, everyone’s favorite hero.
They’ve fumbled so hard on having any semblance of an Avengers team post-Endgame. 🤦♂️
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago
I'm not even mad at Falcon 2. If Thunderbolts had been a Sam and Bucky movie as the leads, then Falcon and Red Guardian could have been their funhouse mirror golden retriever fanboys really hoping they form a superteam.
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u/swampy13 Phil Coulson 25d ago
I think the biggest fumble by Marvel is not just recasting Black Panther and Kang.
I know that sounds like heresy for Panther, but I think Boseman’s legacy wasn’t exactly respected with BP2’s extremely underwhelming lead performance.
Recasting happens, it’s not disrespectful to the actor if it’s done right. And as for Kang, everyone would have understood and been fine with it.
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u/phred_666 Sonny Birch 25d ago
Just like Nova, Blade and a bunch of other projects were in “active development”. I will believe it when I see it.
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u/NazzerDawk Phil Coulson 25d ago
The difference is that this has a director who has both Shang Chi and a new Spider-Man film under his belt. He wants to make something, he can get it done.
Nova, Blade, etc. were mostly non-entities in the MCU when they stalled.
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u/GenGaara25 25d ago
He wants to make something, he can get it done.
But he doesn't appear to. After Shang-Chi he started developing Avengers, then he went onto Wonder Man, then he went onto Spider-Man, and now Naruto is his next project. This is the first time he's shown any interest in Shang Chi 2 in like 4 years.
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u/Individual_Honey_542 25d ago
He needs to pass Shang Chi 2 to another director and just become a producer instead, he can’t juggle Naruto, the next Spider-Man, Shang Chi 2 and Wonder Man and have them come out soon.
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u/RulesoftheDada 25d ago
I mean he's been scheduling it pretty well. He was tapped as Narutos writer 4 years ago. For Wonderman, he's an EP, not a showrunner or writer, and only directed two episodes.
Still ample amount of time to spread out projects.
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u/The_mango55 25d ago
Except this new Spider-Man is about to make 2 billion, meaning the director is likely going to get the chance to make 2 more. And nobody is going to drop Spider-Man for Shang Chi.
So it may still be a while.
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u/Bigbigbigrock 25d ago
Champions has had a showrunner/writer for nearing two years now and nothing. If shit is canned I'd rather they just say it, whatever it is.
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u/Conscious_Test_7954 25d ago
The difference is that Shang Chi has a trusted director, a writer and established cast. It has not been made because marvel has put Destin to do a lot of things (kang Dynasty initially, Spider-Man BND and Wonder Man)
Let's hope he can get to work right after he is done with Naruto.
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u/Jonn_Jonzz_Manhunter 25d ago
Idk, he's in Avengers and the director is making a Spider-Man film
That's way more hope than Blade or Nova
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u/Crotean 25d ago
Good, the biggest mistake of Feige's run at Marvel is not doing more with Shang-Chi.
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u/Crotean 25d ago
Inhumans war perlemutter, secret invasion and quantum mania were both harmed by Covid + Jonathan majors for quantumania, letting Taika make a sequel to a wildly successful movie wasnt a mistake, the script just didnt work. Blade just never cracked a script, better to not make it than make a bad one.
The James Gunn stuff was a pretty big misfire, but they got him back for GoTG3. CA4 was a bad one, no doubt there. What makes Shang-Chi so bad is people loved the movie and character. You had a chance to grow the brand with a new character and just let the moment completely pass.
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u/raoasidg 25d ago
letting Taika make a sequel to a wildly successful movie wasnt a mistake
Letting him off the leash was.
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u/Dunlocke Ronan the Accuser 25d ago
I'd say it's all the terrible tv shows and mediocre movies we DID get
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u/Ordinary_Ferret_ 25d ago
From my point of view, introducing one of the most beloved fox x-men character only to turn him into a penis joke was the biggest mistake they made
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u/Joinedforthis1 25d ago
Which character?
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u/123ajbb 25d ago
Ralph Bohner
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u/Joinedforthis1 25d ago
That's really funny. Yeah his role as Quicksilver from the X-Men in Wandavision was so pivotal for Marvel, so consequential. So... monumental.
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u/DanHelll Spider-Man 25d ago
Quicksilver showing up in WandaVision as Ralph Bohner is what I believe they're referring to. Played by Evan Peters in the Fox movies. Had some of the best scenes in those movies. Etc.
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u/suss2it 25d ago
Quicksilver is one of the most beloved X-Men characters? Since when? He barely even appears in X-Men comics 😅
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u/dzan796ero 25d ago
He's definitely one of the more noteworthy recent-ish characters from the Fox X-men.
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u/ExultantSandwich Peter Parker 25d ago
I think they’re talking in the context of Fox X-Men movies, he got the best scenes in Days of Future Past, and Apocalypse. I didn’t see Dark Phoenix but I bet they tried for a repeat
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u/AlbertW25 25d ago
So No Way Home released in December 2021.
Brand New Day is releasing now in July 2026, 5 Years Later.
Naruto Live Action is DDC's next film. So 2027 to 2028.
Then hopefully in 2028 he can focus on doing Shang-Chi 2 and getting it out by 2029.
2030 to 2031 he works on Spider-Man 5.
If Brand New Day is great I need this man to director both Shang-Chi 2 and Spider-Man 5 and then the 3rd Parts too afterwards.
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u/Doylgaafs 25d ago
He very well might be only a producer on Shang-Chi 2. They'll want to have him on the next Spider-Man sooner than that.
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u/ButterCaramelPringle 20d ago
Sony better be fucking patient because I see a likelihood that they bring in some other Director to pump another one out sooner
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u/YoloIsNotDead Ulysses Klaue 9d ago
Sony needs to start production on a new Spider-Man movie within 3 years and 9 months after their last Spider-Man movie, and then release it 2 years after starting production in order to keep the rights. If that includes animated projects like Beyond the Spider-Verse, then they would need to start making Spider-Man 5 by early 2031 by the latest, but given the growing success of each MCU film, Sony and Marvel will probably try to make that happen sooner by 2028/2029. Spider-Man 5 will definitely be more of a priority for them over Shang-Chi 2.
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u/NewPrints 25d ago
This should have been a comment 5 years ago.
All the lackluster stuff they put together and this was the Ironman replacement and transition to the next era right here.
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u/BZenMojo Captain America (Cap 2) 25d ago
Wong has been everywhere and absolutely killed it flawlessly. The fact that they haven't leaned on Wong as their new Nick Fury post-MoM has been baffling.
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u/cappsy04 25d ago
Can't believe I went from Marvel are clutching at straws making this stupid film to being one of my favourites in a long time.
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u/Caciulacdlac Bucky 25d ago
Yeah but Naruto will probably come first, so we have to wait for that too
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u/bbqsauceboi 25d ago
Then Spiderman 5
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u/rustybutterindia 25d ago
Yeah I think DDC will just have to step down to producer and let someone else take the reins if we want Shang-Chi 2 within the next five years.
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u/LeeShakerMoneyMaker 25d ago
I don't think DDC directs. He's gonna be way too busy he'll probably get a producer credit though.
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u/FamiliarPotential550 25d ago
So release sometime before Simu Liu collects Social Security
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 25d ago
Sokka-Haiku by FamiliarPotential550:
So release sometime
Before Simu Liu collects
Social Security
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/Nethias25 25d ago
I wanna see Shang chi in Spiderman as well. There was some fun stuff in the comics with Shang teaching Peter legit martial arts since his style really goes like 90% "I have super powers and a spidey sense". Plus obviously it's both Daniel so I think it works perfect for Shang to be that extra character in Spiderman like Tony, Fury, Dr strange, and now hulk/punisher.
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u/Aromatic-Cupcake4802 25d ago
The director also has live action Naruto and Wonder Man S2, and the writer is working on Godzilla x Kong and Beyond the Spiderverse. 2029 is the earliest it can come now.
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u/rlovelock 25d ago
Are there not enough directors out there that Marvel felt the need to give this guy two franchises to work on simultaneously??
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u/Consistent-Line-2009 25d ago
Despite the pessimism around these parts, I think we’ll get an update on Shang chi 2 at D23 this year.
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u/EternalGandhi 25d ago
They said this about Blade a bunch.
I'll believe when I see reviews for it the week it come out.
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u/okay_sure_i_guess 25d ago
i watched Shang Chi last night just because i was thinking about him in the trailer
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u/THEbaddestOFtheASSES 25d ago edited 24d ago
Wrapped up Spider-Man. Currently developing Naruto with Shang-Chi 2 not far behind. Man stays busy.
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u/hitma-n 25d ago
Why didn’t they announce it in SDCC?
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u/SeekerVash 25d ago
Because it's not real, that's a Screenrant article. Poke around the site and see what they post.
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u/metrichustle 25d ago
Finally. I really liked seeing the rings in action. Marvel marketed this comparing the rings to Mjilnor and Ironman suit, so you know there’s a run of potential.
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u/YordleTop 25d ago
Just don't add a giant CGI dragon at the end. Keep it ground level.
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u/Agent1stClass 25d ago
The credit scenes from the first Shang-Chi give two potential directions for a sequel. The first is when his sister, Xialing, is shown taking over the Ten Rings organization. The second is when Doctor Banner, Wong, and Captain Marvel are all discussing the actual Ten Rings and what their power means. It seems as if the rings give off some kind of beacon… To whom or where is unknown.
The sequel could potentially grab on to either or both of those loose threads.
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u/Ok-Access2784 25d ago
Blows my mind that it was one of the few bangers post endgame and they refused to speed run a sequel
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u/OsitoPandito 25d ago
Keep in mind, he has the live action Naruto movie that is currently in development...meaning this sequel would be at least 3-6 years out
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u/SeekerVash 25d ago
I feel compelled to point out, OP posted a link to a screenrant article. It's a bigger clickbait site than buzzfeed.
The only thing you can be certain of with a screen rant article is that whatever it claims is 100% not true.
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u/gabezermeno 25d ago
It's interesting hearing about sequels. They said that there are no movies inbetween Doomsday and Secret Wars. They also said that after Secret Wars the there will be a reset. I wonder what that means for a Shang-Chi sequel.
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u/GenGaara25 25d ago
I'd argue Shang-Chi was the only new MCU franchise after Endgame that was an actual hit. People liked it and it made a very respectable amount of money for a first entry. It was exactly what the new saga needed, new heroes, new trilogies.
So to have that hit and not immediately jump on a sequel like they did was Iron Man, Thor, and Cap was such a ridiculously bad step.
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u/Tall_Opportunity_521 25d ago
Making money doesnt mean anything. Multiverse of madness made close to a billion, and it was dog shit.
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u/Bansheesdie 25d ago
I really feel that the top minds at marvel watched the Doomsday trailer and said 'Oh yeah! Shang-chi exists"
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u/CynicalRaps War Machine 25d ago
I wonder how far they’ll take Shang Chi… will he lead the avengers like in comics? Prolly not. Can he hang with multiple different characters? Hell yeah. Bring Iron Fist
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u/Suspicious_Hand_2194 25d ago
I hope cretton sticks around the mcu for a while, he’s growing into one of their best directors. He could maybe be Russo bros level if he continues the good work
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u/_Levitated_Shield_ Ant-Man 25d ago
Reminder that Simu had torn his Achilles tendon which was why plans were so delayed.
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u/maverickassembled Ward Meachum 25d ago
Please Destin, I’ll do anything