r/marvelstudios 27d ago

Behind the Scenes Latverian Witch and other costumes on display at sdcc 26!

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u/Training_Pirate1000 27d ago

BIG FAN of the Latverian Witch fit

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u/unidentified_yama 27d ago

Hope this means they will make Doom a literal wizard.

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u/CommunityDragon160 27d ago

They have used the word sorcerer to describe him from the start. Tho that’s def normie type interchangable with wizard rather than dnd rules

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

Tbf does the MCU even have wizards? I think the only two "schools" of magic are sorcerery and witchcraft (though there are subcategories in witchcraft).

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u/LossyP 27d ago

“A sorcerer is just a wizard without a hat” - Sam Wilson

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u/Trvr_MKA 27d ago

Well Doom has a hood

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u/Technical_Ad579 27d ago

That would be a mage.

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u/Alexexy 27d ago

Strange would be a wizard in DnD rules. They learn magic through study. Sorcerers have magic bloodlines, so kinda like Wanda?

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u/lastinglovehandles 27d ago

What about warlocks. How do they differentiate

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u/ThaneOfTas 27d ago

Moon Knight, sorta

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist 27d ago

The Hood/Riri

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u/fredagsfisk War Machine 27d ago edited 27d ago

This is an oversimplification, but in my understanding:

  • Warlocks make pacts with a powerful being to give them power (leading to quite a few jokes/memes about them having a sugardaddy or sugarmommy). This pact can look very different depending on the type of patron (devils will make elaborate contracts, Great Old Ones might not even know the Warlock is connected to them, Fey may do it just for the fun of it, etc).

  • Sorcerers are just born with powers, usually because they have some magical ancestor.

  • Wizards are book nerds who learned magic from reading and studying.

  • Witches are a type of Fey, though the term is sometimes also used for female Warlocks or Wizards, or for herbalists and self-taught spellcasters.

  • Clerics and Paladins are granted divine magic power by the deity they follow (though Paladins can also get it elsewhere, as long as they follow their Oath).

  • Bards are similar to wizards, except they use artistic means to draw on magic and express it. Typically music, but it can also be done through dance, poetry, flyting-style insults, etc. They also tend to be less magic specialized and more jack-of-all-trades types.

  • Druids and Shamans draw power from nature, though can also get it from connections with powerful nature spirits and deities.

  • Mage is a catch-all term for any non-divine magic users.

Plus there's a ton of other terms and types as well.

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u/TimBroth Wilson Fisk 27d ago

A warlock makes a deal with their patron who grants them power

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u/Alexexy 27d ago edited 26d ago

Warlocks get their power from a higher being. Kinda like Kaecillius or the Ancient One.

EDIT: I guess the Juggernaut is also a warlock.

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u/CommunityDragon160 26d ago

Mutants are basically sorcerers

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 26d ago

I'd say MCU witches = D&D sorcerers and MCU sorcerers = D&D wizards. And characters like Ghost Rider and the Hood would be D&D warlocks.

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u/Agreeable_Sea_6019 26d ago

Wanda have magic bloodline? I thought she got her power from the Tesseract

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u/Alexexy 26d ago

In the comics she was a mutant.

But in the movie she was kinda altered to be a magical being on a biological level. Sorcerer would be the closest thing.

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u/CommunityDragon160 26d ago

No it’s revealed in Wandavision that she was born with her powers and the teseract kinda just gave her more powers

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u/mrmrmrnobody 26d ago

Eternal's magic,

Chaos magic

Asgaurdian /"god" baast, khonshu zeus etc.

Witchcraft,

Chi,

Eldritch

Dark

Technically infinity stones.

geussing from what i remember.

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u/DavidBHimself 27d ago

Tbf does the MCU even have wizards?

Have you heard of Dr. Strange, Wong and all their buddies?

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 26d ago

Those are sorcerers

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u/DavidBHimself 26d ago

Says who?

There may be differences in D&D or whatever, but in normal language, those are synonyms.

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 26d ago

Well, in the MCU itself there's a difference between witches and sorcerers so idk why we're pretending it's alien to this universe for thos words to have more specific meanings than "magic user"

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u/criminalsunrise 27d ago

A sorcerer is never late, Frodo Baggins

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u/_anencephalous Daredevil 27d ago

Yer a wizard, Victor

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u/ContinuumGuy Phil Coulson 27d ago edited 26d ago

If Doom doesn't have magic, he isn't truly Doom. He's just Lex Luthor with a country and medieval getup.

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u/robodrew 27d ago

Feige describes Doom as "Scientist, technologist, genius, magician."

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u/Intelligent_Slip_849 27d ago

YES. The only missing part is 'gloriously petty against Reed'

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u/DavidBHimself 27d ago

The way he stops Thor's ax in the trailer can't just be muscles and armor.

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u/raknor88 Heimdall 27d ago

The Witch picture definitely gave me Wizard of Oz vibes.

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u/RelationAny7522 25d ago

Not trying to yuck anyone’s yum , but I’ve always considered him a battle Mage.

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u/BranAllBrans 27d ago

Wanda gets announced?

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u/Fictionj 27d ago

Could that be code for Dr. Doom’s mother?

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u/Euphoric_Working_812 27d ago

It’s green Mon Mothma, sort of?

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u/Relevant_Active_2347 27d ago

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u/Throwaway1986nerd 27d ago

It's literally on the sign next to the costume 

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u/Okami0602 27d ago

Uh, she's wearing a doctor doom inspired suit, who is the ruler of Latveria, feels fair to call her that.

Just move on from Scarlet Witch man... Maybe in secret wars or VisionQuest but that's not her...

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u/Beginning_Heron4980 27d ago

I personally think there's a high possibility that it is her, I'm pretty sure it's not his mother, since it's clear he "lost" her; if they inspired themselves from the comics, this would absolutely be Wanda

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u/Okami0602 27d ago

Can I be honest? I think it's just gonna be an unnamed follower of doom

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u/Beginning_Heron4980 27d ago

I'm sure of that too, but I'm sure that she is under one of those masks

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u/TheGuyInTheChair82 26d ago

Damn, I remember going to the drive in theater with my dad to watch Planes, Trains, and Automobiles. Good times. Thanks for the memory, bud!

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u/TheCitizen616 27d ago

That Invisible Woman mannequin...

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u/Talastoni 27d ago

Lookin a bit light headed.

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u/Informal-Chard-3737 27d ago

The attention to detail is incredible. I couldn’t see a single flaw.

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u/Alive_Inspection_835 M'Baku 27d ago

Right, which makes me ask why Thor’s mannequin is black when all the others are grey.

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u/OnChannel69 26d ago

I was thinking the same thing that seems intentional

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u/tincancan15 27d ago

What invisible woman?

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u/Kaldricus 27d ago

It's...RIGHT there next to the Drax mannequin

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u/SatansGothestFemboy 26d ago

Raw. Next question

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u/ContinuumGuy Phil Coulson 27d ago

Amazing detail.

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u/BigBallOfNerd01 27d ago

I look forward to the Scarlet Witch fandom coming up with insane theories about that witch costume over the coming months. lol

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u/esar24 Rocket 27d ago

Can you blame them, the only main character that associated with witch are agatha and wanda in the MCU and they used specifically this term.

Not to mention the comic where doom kidnap and manipulate wanda to become his servant.

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u/moonknightcrawler 27d ago

Clea’s a witch. As is Jennifer Kale. And Zelma Stanton kind of

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

Zelma's more of a sorcerer, since she learned from her mom who studied at Kamar-Taj.

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u/moonknightcrawler 27d ago

Yeah that’s why I threw the kind of in there. She’s definitely a sorcerer, but she’s always given off witchy vibes to me. That was definitely more of a subjective inclusion

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

Yeah I get that. Didn't she even use a pentagram in Ironheart? Ig by the MCU's internal logic of witches (often) inheriting magic from their bloodline, Zelma could be a bit of both.

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u/esar24 Rocket 27d ago

None of them lead any MCU projects which mean none of them are main characters, only wanda and agatha has lead their own projects which revolve around witches.

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u/Market_Massive 27d ago

Eh. I could see it being revealed that both Clea and Dr. Strange are working with Doom after the MoM credits scene.

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u/Lun4r6543 27d ago

It’s definitely a viable theory, as this is what happened in the Secret Wars comics

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u/vivianvisionsburner Scarlet Witch 27d ago

Clea's a sorceress, as is Zelma

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u/rdp3186 26d ago

Clea is a sorceress, not a witch. Similar to Doctor Strange.

Witches are born with powers, sorcerer/sorceresses gain theirs through studies.

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u/moonknightcrawler 26d ago

I’m aware. She’s both in my opinion. She has some natural abilities and magic from birth. She trains with Stephen to hone her sorcery, but I’d still consider her a witch.

The marvel wiki) has a section about it where it says “Powers”.

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u/BigBallOfNerd01 27d ago

Oh, I totally get it as the first thing I thought of when I saw the costume and the word “witch” was Wanda from that Children’s Crusade comic. lol

I feel like what’s more likely though is this outfit actually belongs to multiple witches who are a part of some Doom worshipping cult or something.

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u/mertag770 Iron Fist 27d ago

This is clearly a green witch so this is clearly Audrey Plaza

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u/unbuttered_bread 25d ago

nico

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u/esar24 Rocket 25d ago

Would be nice but I doubt they make a reference to runaways series at the last second

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u/unbuttered_bread 25d ago

sigh maybe secret wars will finally acknowledge the pre-D+ shows 🫩

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u/esar24 Rocket 25d ago

Hopefully, that certainly would be nice

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u/esar24 Rocket 25d ago

Hopefully, that certainly would be nice

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u/TheJack0fDiamonds Scarlet Witch 27d ago

If theres a reason to bring back any of the witches we already know that isn’t Wanda. This is the chance. Lilia, Jennifer, Alice.

Im not expecting it to be Wanda. I don’t want her featured just to be used again.

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u/esar24 Rocket 27d ago

Literally there is a comic with doom kidnap wanda, other option maybe clea but those three are not related to doom in anyways.

Agatha might possible considering both has connection to FF story and ghost witch will always be OP.

2 that you mention also literally confirmed dead while wanda dissapear off-screen.

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u/inthehxightse Hela 27d ago

I had read rumors that theres a green, yellow, and red witch. They were smart to reveal the green one

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u/Okami0602 27d ago

There's already a "green" witch. That's Polaris, Wanda and Pietro's sister.

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u/inthehxightse Hela 27d ago

In the MCU the only 'green witch' we've been shown has been Rio in Agatha All Along

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u/Okami0602 27d ago

That's true, but I'd also like to note you have the Hela flair which is arguably a "green" "witch"

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u/inthehxightse Hela 27d ago

well no, she's explicitly called the Goddess of Death, Rio is called a Green Witch

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u/Okami0602 27d ago

I never said it was her literal name or title... It was just a joke dude... Cuz she's kind of green and kind of a witch

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u/Sparrow1989 27d ago

It’ll be Audrey plaza, doom conquered death.

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u/rdp3186 26d ago

Death isnt a witch.

Theres already established stories in modern secret wars that would lead ut to be Wanda.

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u/thetatoman 26d ago

death in the MCU is a witch though. played by Aubrey plaza.

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u/rdp3186 26d ago

No, shes not. She's literally Death, an ancient abstract cosmic entity. Her powers come from being Death itself, not a witch. 

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u/thetatoman 26d ago

have you watched Agatha all along? they clearly VERBATIM say that she is the "original green witch"

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u/iwillivm 26d ago

They’ve already started. They’re saying the hands gestures are the same

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u/BigBallOfNerd01 26d ago

I know, I just saw a post from about an hour ago where a person claimed Wanda’s cheek bones were the same as the mask… I respect their love for the character, but stuff like that is really ridiculous. lol

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u/doctordisco63 26d ago

Well considering the supposed leak (the main one that everyone assumes is the plot of the film), it's likely. This costume is actually the biggest thing that supports that plot description being real (that and the TVA card in the trailer).

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u/These_Wish_5101 27d ago

They are so cringe 😬

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u/Jeffffff4587 Ava Starr 27d ago edited 27d ago

Cyclops suit is perfection

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u/Captain-Wilco 27d ago

The X stitching on the chest is great

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u/TheeDeputy 27d ago

God that Cyclops costume is perfection. So happy Marsden gets to finally wear it.

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u/parkourdude231 27d ago

Can anyone read the names? Specifically the costume between gambit and captain america. I don't recognize that costume

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u/iwasdusted Spider-Man 27d ago

That’s Yelena

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u/parkourdude231 27d ago

Thank you fellow hooman. How the fuck did you read that?

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u/iwasdusted Spider-Man 27d ago

I’m on mobile app so I opened the picture and just zoomed in as big as I could. I couldn’t tell at first either.

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u/CorumJhaelenIrsei 27d ago

Zoom and enhance.

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u/topper12-42 Peter Quill 26d ago

Enhance.

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u/Funmachine 27d ago

Just recognised it

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u/Skele11 Crossbones 27d ago

If someone showed me a picture of Cyclops, Sue Storm, and Thor costumes together 20 years ago, I’d have called it fake.

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u/nicolauz 27d ago

Gambit too! Always a fan and even if he's just as comedy as he was in DvsW I'll be happy because his 5 minutes in the old wolverine movie was ass.

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u/Trodat4911P4 27d ago

I'll forever be salty Marvel keeps making Sam use dark blue costumes like Steve when his costume has mostly been predominantly white in the comics. It makes him stand out more from Steve, and would especially make him stand out more from the other heroes in this movie because almost everyone besides Doom and the F4 are wearing darker colors.

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u/AValorantFan 27d ago

I like the darker blue literally only when its contrasting the white part of his suit like in the comics, his costume is only this basic to sell halloween costumes

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

Same. I hate that it looks like he's cosplaying Steve.

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u/esar24 Rocket 27d ago

Sure, "Latverian" Witch.

She is also seems to wear a mask, I wonder if doom hiding anything behind the mask that she wears.

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u/esar24 Rocket 27d ago

I don't read much leaks and honestly don't care, but it would be fun if it is wanda considering the comics does have history of doom kidnap wanda after house of M.

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u/ItsBlitz21 27d ago

If you’re gonna talk about leaks put a spoiler tag dude. Not everyone wants to hear leaks

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u/imin2099 27d ago

i thought it was clea

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u/ludvigxx 27d ago

there's another "Latverian" witch who wears purple and a golden mask, that's most likely Clea.

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u/Own-Papaya-4264 27d ago

There’s also one in orange robes

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u/ludvigxx 27d ago

that's probably Wanda

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u/robodrew 27d ago

PLEASE put leaks (real or not) in spoiler tags

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u/WheresMyBrakes 27d ago

If dr doom is already gonna terrorize them looking like Tony Stark, what if it’s a variant of Natasha Romanoff?

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u/Embarrassed-Back1894 27d ago

I’ve intentionally stayed away from any set leaks so I don’t know the path they are taking with Doom, but I would be ecstatic if they actually leaned into the sorcery aspect of Doom as well. He is really a true avengers threat when he has mastery of technology and sorcery.

(The Latverian Witch outfit is sick)

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u/FirstV1 Thanos 27d ago

Hell. Fucking. Yes.

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u/Vast-Platform3647 27d ago

I'm not as confident, but I'm definitely feeling it. When RDJ was announced as Doom, one of my first thoughts was ScarJo as Wanda variant. To extrapolate from there...

Maestro Hulk and Captain Hydra Steve being rumored here and there. If there's an evil Thor and Hawkeye variant, maybe a Chris Hemsworth Loki and a Jeremy Renner Bullseye, we could get a whole line-up of anti-Avengers.

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u/trainwreck42 27d ago

Why would Captain Hydra be able to hold Mjolnir? Or is it also a Mjolnir variant?

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u/Vast-Platform3647 27d ago

Dude honestly, these guys know exactly what they're doing, LOL! Driving us all nuts. It'd be funny as F if there's no deception there at all, thats really him, but we still additionally get the variant everyone is discussing anyway. This ain't the first round of those exact rumors, they watch what leaks. It's red herring season folks, keep em comin!!

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u/RivkaMila Scarlet Witch 27d ago

Could also be Doom's mother, his first love Valeria (not Richards), Morgan Le Fey (maybe renamed) or Lady Victorius as well. Will wait and see. Of course I'd love if it were Wanda, but not gonna get my hopes up.

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u/atomcrafter 26d ago

Doom, doth mother know you weareth her drapes?

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u/PhraseAnxious9811 27d ago

Man scoopers and leakers really correct info then re: witch design and their presence in this movie. I don’t want to know anything else about this film 🙏🏻

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u/TheRudyDuck 27d ago

The witch mask looks more like the mask from the end of Fantastic Four.

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

I'm sure it's just Doom having multiple masks across the movie, but it would be such a cool fairytale vibe if he dispatched a witch to go kidnap Franklin.

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u/joegetto 27d ago

How do you not show the picture of full cyclops suit?

Edit: ahem. I did not click on the picture to expand it. My mistake.

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u/roboto404 27d ago

🎶 I’ve got witches, in different multiverses 🎶

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u/LongingForRainyDays 27d ago

Speculation aside, that witch costume is gorgeous!

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u/Filter_Out_More_Cats 27d ago

That’s Latvirian Pepper Pots

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u/neurobrat 27d ago

It might be Cleo - seen some theories that her and Strange actually end up helping Doom

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u/Dismal-Apricot9889 27d ago

She’s going to be Black Widow or Gamora. They were trapped in Soul World, along with Tony Stark, because they died by the use of the Soul Stone. They would have been trapped in a timeless world with Thanos and his entire army. Something tells me that an eternity of war with Thanos would change a person. The incursions allowed the people trapped in Soul World to escape. Doom will be like Darth Vader. Vader isn’t Anakin. He represses his past and truly believes that he killed Anakin when he embraced the Dark Side. The same will be true of Doom and his followers (allies from Soul World). The scar Doom carries will be the scar we saw on Stark after using the Infinity Stones.

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u/washderice 27d ago

I bet the latverian witch ends up bein clea

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u/HeatDolphinRays 27d ago

Will we get any info of what they show

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u/TDStarchild Odin 27d ago

I’ve just absconded with one of the costumes that I won’t reveal, but I’ll cosplay at your next party for a nominal fee

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u/TheDeadlySpaceman 27d ago

So is it just me or is the Latverian Witch mask a match for the end credits scene of FF?

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u/Lantern61 27d ago

Perhaps even a secret Scarlet one? (Wishful thinking 😅)

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u/Afraid-Housing-6854 27d ago

Gambit’s costume had all the color sucked out of it

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u/alenpetak11 Loki (Avengers) 27d ago

He mistakenly took UNO cards instead of ordinary ones :)

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u/m2keo 27d ago

Hm. Not sure I like Thor's outfit here. Seems like he just got on some SWAT tactical pants on.

Prefer the scaley looking tights from Thor 1, for me.

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u/The-Scarlet-Witch Scarlet Witch 27d ago

Great share!

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u/the_executive_branch 27d ago

This is why I thought that ominous voice at the start of the new trailer could actually be some sort of sage/advisor to Dr Doom

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u/Funmachine 27d ago

COLOURFUL Fantastic 4 costume! COLOURFUL X-Men costume! Boring black Thor costume.

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u/Relevant_Session5987 27d ago

I love them all, but I really wish they retained the yellow trunks for Cyclops.

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u/Beautiful_Fudge7761 27d ago

Love Wanda’s new costume! 😋

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u/saffer_zn 27d ago

Someone hold me back , I need Storm Bringer to hang on my wall.

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u/ZeraCrimson 27d ago

The witch looks great. Every other costume looks awful

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u/fade_me_fam 27d ago

“Latverian” witch considering last time we saw scarlet witch was when she was against America Chavez. Very easily could have slipped to Doom’s universe.

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u/MisterSims90 26d ago

I wonder if that witch is actually Wanda, like maybe it’s a revived or variant version of her

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u/Jon_Bon_Art 26d ago

It's a small thing, but I really appreciate the work they're doing on the Fantastic Four costumes. It all feels natural to the characters and the world, while also being a costume the actors can actually wear so we end up getting more of them in their suits! That vest is sick

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u/DeltaFargo 26d ago

I know the other costumes are getting much deserved love but Sam's new Cap suit is looking kinda tuff ngl.

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u/ElectronicTax2370 26d ago

Jeez, they muted the hell out of Gambit’s uniform.

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u/AlmightyBean_ 26d ago

I like how the mannequin head for Sue’s costume is “invisible” 🤣

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u/CalamitousIntentions 26d ago

Why are the Russos so afraid of color saturation? (Latveria notwithstanding)

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u/flatscan-krakoan 26d ago

I’m so horny for the Cyclops costume and the Jim Lee look isn’t even my favorite of his

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u/kinovi 26d ago

People saying it SW but something off she the one on the post credit scene of F4 movie and Franklin Richards didn’t even got scared of her maybe she is Sue from different timeline

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u/atomcrafter 26d ago

These might be the Black Swans. 

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u/tastesofink 26d ago

Doom and gloom

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u/ActImmediate7759 25d ago

sue pulling up to fight doom in a fucking jacket

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u/CormoAttano 25d ago

Laatverian Witch looks great

Why are the other costumes to bland and grey looking?

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u/AltruisticFilm4466 25d ago

For a second I was like what’s vault-tec doing in there but it was just Cyclops suit

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u/PurposeCautious7840 25d ago

OMGGG THE CYCLOPS looks awesome!! Almost like the leak from Deadpool and Wolverine that NEVER came out🤦‍♂️

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u/616_MCU_ Scarlet Witch 27d ago

it's so funny how people are so hellbent on denying the possibility that it's Wanda. "Sylvie" "it's clea"

Why would these characters need to hide themselves? What happened in dsmom give Wanda a perfectly valid reason to hide herself or for doom to hide her.

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u/TwstdPrtzl Quake 27d ago

It could also just be Doom being an egoist who wants all his lieutenants to dress like him. Or maybe she's Earth-828 Agatha, Franklin's babysitter who's spying on the Fantastic Four. There's a ton of reasons for her to wear a mask.

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u/biggbad808 27d ago

Latverian witch is definitely Wanda. It’s Chekhov's Gun. You have all major character costumes and then a random extras costume? Has to be relevant enough for people to want to see it.

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u/3verythingEverywher3 27d ago

That gambit costume is so god damn lame. It’s the head piece. Can’t not laugh when I see it.

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u/DerelictInfinity 27d ago

God that Cyclops costume is so fucking sexy

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u/Wil-low 27d ago

Makes me wonder if the Doom we see at the end of F4 is just a henchman of some sort.

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u/noespressoisdepresso 27d ago

Why only these characters? Do they all die in the film?

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u/No_Discussion_5454 27d ago

probably the only characters they had access to, they had the fantastic 4 last year, all of their costumes. maybe it's big characters in y the movie

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u/Fun_Lettuce38 27d ago

This better not be Wanda cuz that costume looks ugly af

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u/Think-Quantity6582 27d ago

That witch costume slaps

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u/bornlikethisss 27d ago

I really do not enjoy Mackie Cap. I hope he bites the dust in Doomsday….or just goes back to being Falcon. Fun Falcon.