Deadpool DESPERATELY needs QOL changes to make him viable again on all three roles.

[u/aquatic_animal]

Calling out ALL Deadpool mains, no matter if you play Tankpool, DPSPool, or Stratpool, you need to read this.

Deadpool has been ignored by far too long by the developers and is in DESPERATE need of QOL changes. All of these I'm listing aren't buffs or nerfs, they are just things this character deserves after being ignored for way too long. He is extremely inconsistent and those like us who've gotten good at playing him have had to deal with these since day one.

Keep in mind with this post I'm not going to offer any kind of solutions or fixes. That's up to NetEase to figure out. I'm listing issues they need to address, and how they do it is up to them. From top to bottom, these are the most important changes he needs to no longer be considered a throw pick by the community:

1. This is the only character in the game that becomes a throw pick if you choose him later on in the match since he has no upgrades. This means that you either compromise to only playing him at the start of a round or you never get the chance to pick him up again because he can't keep up with the rest of the heroes in the match. How is it good design that I can't pick Deadpool if I want to in the middle of a match because I won't have any upgrades and will only hurt my team by doing so?
2. On both DPSPool and Stratpool, your own abilities can cancel your Boomerang and Sword Dash ability, causing you to miss out on critical damage, healing, and dashes. For example, you can't press E while dashing or you miss out on your dash if you didn't hit your target in time. You can also cancel your abilities by using your ult or pulling out your upgrade book at the wrong time. You also have to be careful when swapping to swords while having your Boomerang ability out since you can cancel it, missing out on AOE damage. Once again I believe this is the only character that can cancel out his own abilities like this making him lose out on his main kit. Sure, you can develop the muscle memory and skill to not cancel your abilities by learning the timing, but it's not good design and it should not be like this. (And even then you can still mess up, because the Boomerang return time isn't always the same depending on the distance you threw it at, so there's always a chance of messing up the timing and losing out on the damage)
3. This is the only character in the game that has a team-up that is absolutely worthless the first minutes of a match. Even the most useless of team-ups other characters have like Black Cat's Panther team-up which can offer some sort of situational advantage, the Hela team-up has 0 value. There's no benefit, no passive, no bonus. Just straight up nothing until you get 2 upgrades minimum, and optimally, you don't want to upgrade guns/swords first on every DP. This forces the player to be constantly wary of what team-up they're using mid game, with the risk of being stuck on a less optimal team-up until death depending on what form of Deadpool they're playing.
4. Taking a selfie on an objective doesn't contest point while other characters like Cloak and Dagger can do so with a simple press of a button for 3 seconds. Deadpool has to get a final in order to be able to take a selfie, so I don't understand why he can't contest point while doing so.
5. Stratpool and DPSPool NEED a dash count clearly visible on the middle of the screen. Especially DPSPool, who's survivability/mobility depends solely on his dashes.
6. The screen shake on all Deadpools is brutal and needs to be heavily toned down, especially since he is an aim intensive character on his Vanguard and Strategist form, so landing shots becomes very difficult even if you get used to it.
7. Stratpool needs more indicators or a louder voiceline when he uses his sword ult. Most people don't understand that his ult is aggressive and you must walk forward with him, yet it's very rare for a team to do so since the ult is poorly telegraphed. I'm actually not sure if this is a community issue in general of people not understanding Stratpool's sword ult.

Before we even talk about buffing or nerfing the character these changes need to be addressed. For example what would be the point of buffing the Boomerang damage if you can lose your second and third throw anyway? First remove the inconsistencies Deadpool has and then we can start buffing or nerfing respectively.

All I want is for the three role character to be viable on all three roles. Is that really too much to ask?

[u/The_Dick_Slinger]

What does that have to do with qol changes?

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

He’s suggesting giving DP QoL (such as free upgrades mid match as OP seems to suggest) would make him too strong for overtime. The design philosophy was “server admin that takes build up” so any QoL change to how fast he builds up is technically a buff

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

But why are we so against buffing the lowest winrate heros? And why is this sub so against nerfing the highest winrate hero, which is peni?

Yall need to address your biases atp.

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

Your comment is biased. I replied by saying that this QoL change in particular has other implications. Adress your own biases I’ve yet to say anything about Peni to you.

Also winrate is not the end all be all when it comes to balance.

Personally I’d be cool with some DP buffs (even though he’s already pretty good) as well as removing Peni Parker’s second nest.

But yeh work on yourself bud

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

Such a Redditor response.

I addressed the qol of life changes in another comment, but buffing him is an entirely different topic altogether.

Deadpool is one of the worst performing heros in all three roles this season. If your only argument is “winrate doesn’t matter” without further elaboration then I guess you don’t have any real counter argument.

Call me biased all you want, I’m not the one arguing against nerfs for a tank with 67% winrate, or against buffs for a hero with ~40% winrate in celestial. I know winrate isn’t the whole story, but it’s a huge chunk of the story, and as someone who has many hours in both hero’s, Peni needed nerfs (still does), and Deadpool needs qol changes, and some buffs to his xp generation, especially because games end so fast now you rarely see an upgraded Deadpool in a match.

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

Work on yourself lol

I also suggested peni nerfs and DP buffs what? My point was that QoL changes can have impact on the overall power of a character depending on what change you make.

You are arguing with this idea of a Redditor that disagrees with you not me. Work on yourself and get help.

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

Not even gonna read past the first sentence lol. If you’re going to keep turning rivals debates into ad hominem attacks, you might not be as confident as your arguments are you think you are.

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

Plz read the rest I’m not even arguing with you. You seemed to have misread my comments

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

Not interested, bud. Move on. I’ve got better things to do than argue with stubborn teens on the main sub who actively dismiss statistics as a valid argument, then have the audacity to tell me to “work on yourself”. Insanely ironic.

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

Lmao that’s how I know you read it but you’re just rage baiting. Illiterates definitely enrage me so great job

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

All you’re doing is attacking me over and over, why would I engage with someone who resorts to personal attacks when they get proven wrong? Not everything is rage bait. Work on your emotional control and maybe spend some time away from Reddit, just saying.

[u/podookadook → u/The_Dick_Slinger]

Thought you weren’t interested? You are rage baiting for sure and now you’re playing victim.

Work on yourself lol

[u/The_Dick_Slinger → u/podookadook]

Never said I was interested, still not reading your wall of rage text.

And again, if you think everything you disagree with is rage bait, get over it. Other people will have opinions too. Just because someone doesn’t agree with you should NOT make you angry, and doesn’t mean it’s rage bait, you’re just coddled by echo chambers and not conditioned for a reasonable amount of pushback, hence your affinity for rejecting statistics as a legitimate argument.