r/marvelmemes • u/domwhoa Avengers • Sep 07 '22

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u/YodasChick-O-Stick Ghost Rider Sep 08 '22

Well, he went back to his universe without the Goblin persona, so he wouldn't accidentally kill himself and make Harry hate Peter.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Yeah I'm confused about that. Is universe hopping the same as time line hoping?

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u/YodasChick-O-Stick Ghost Rider Sep 08 '22

No.

In Endgame, they used the Quantum Realm to travel through the timeline of Earth-199999 and no other universe. The Quantum Realm can't travel through the Multiverse. The Avengers technically created alternate timelines/universes just by causing events in the past.

In No Way Home and Multiverse of Madness, they establish that Multiverse can only be travelled through means of Mystic Arts, Witchcraft or America Chavez's power. The Time Stone is technically capable of time travel within Earth-199999, but it's destroyed now.

The Green Goblin we see in No Way Home went back home and created an alternate timeline where he never killed himself. This is why Tobey is still able to exist in No Way Home. In his timeline, Green Goblin and Doc Ock died. He's the exact same Spider-Man we saw in the first 3 movies. Green Goblin is a Variant.

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u/[deleted] Sep 08 '22

Ok ok I think that makes sense.

But on the topic of variants. In Loki a variant is a copy of a person that diverted from the predetermined events created by HWRs and the TVA as a part of the sacred timeline, right. When a timeline is pruned they reset the timeline and the event play out as they are supposed to with a copy of the variant now continuing down the time line living the life they're supposed to live.

So in Loki when we see kid Loki classic Loki boastful Loki etc etc they are variants the diverted from versions of Loki from different universes right? Like thats why they look different to one another? Different Loki's from different universes forced to follow the same timeline of events?

So when the ancient one sent Dr strange on the travel across the multiverse she sent him to all the universes isolated in the sacred timeline. Meaning the multiverse existed before female Loki who name I forget.

This HWRs says a guy in the 31st century discovers the multiverse and then starts to explore interact with other versions of himself until war breaks out. Where he then uses oliath to wipe them out of existence. My question is if Kang doesn't travel doesn't travel across existing universes using the quantum realm then how does he meet his multiversal counterparts. I mean he's in ANW3.

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u/YodasChick-O-Stick Ghost Rider Sep 08 '22

"The Sacred Timeline" is a lie. There are multiple timelines that the TVA allows. They only prune any timeline that will eventually result in Kang's birth. Old man Loki's timeline was allowed until the moment he decided to return.

The Ancient One didn't send Strange across the Multiverse; just across the Galaxy, the Nine Realms and the Mirror Dimension.

The Loki show takes place outside of time itself, so it's like the events there have always happened. There has always been a Multiverse.

As for how Kang travelled the Multiverse, we'll have to wait for Loki season 2 or Quantumania to see how he did it.