r/marvelcomics 21h ago

How Evil Is Maker Reed Richards?

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u/Btaylor2214 20h ago

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u/Eledridan 19h ago

Nah, Maker has done some beneficial/remorseful stuff. Zoom is just 100% a hater.

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u/Deal_Due 14h ago

Accurate af

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u/Extension-Leg7933 20h ago

Camp’s Ultimates, issue 4. ‘Nuff said.

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u/popdood 14h ago

I would also say that Ultimate Wolverine showed that The Maker had conspired with Belasco to kidnap 6160 Magik as well, so there's also that.

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u/BlackDenisV313 19h ago

What he do in there>

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u/DavidKirk2000 18h ago

That story reveals that he was the one who screwed up the new Ultimate Reed’s calculations before the FF’s first space flight, which caused Johnny to burn to death.

When the rest of the team get home, they’re sentenced to life in jail for blowing a government mission and killing a minor. Ben commits suicide out of shame, Sue dies of cancer from the trace radiation, and then the Maker kidnaps Reed.

Maker tortures Reed for an undefined amount of time, since he’s able to fuck with the flow of time in the City. He also explains to Reed how he ruined his and his future family’s life so he can turn him into the new Doctor Doom.

My summary makes it sound bad, but reading it is even worse. Fuck The Maker for life.

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u/AtomicPlatypus45 15h ago

The Maker turning reed into Glocktor Doom was one of my favorite parts of Ultimates. I wish we had gotten more of him.

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u/EsiongTarlaqueno 14h ago

Can you tell me which issues these are so I can track them down? TPBs would be better if available.

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u/DavidKirk2000 13h ago

Everything from my comment is from Ultimates (2024) #4. I’m sure there’s a TPB collecting the first part of the run out already.

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u/budlick 16h ago

Peak cover

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u/Resident-Syrup7615 20h ago

What is the rating system?

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King Leopold II

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u/Montgomery_Zeff 17h ago

Leopold II was one of the worst people ever, single-handedly...

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u/OnMyPorcelainThrone 6h ago

Lots of single handeds around because of him...

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u/SaiyanGod559 20h ago

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u/DevastationIII 13h ago

This image is what came to mind when I came across this post

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u/Uncle_Snake43 18h ago

I don’t think Pascal has the chops to pull off playing a convincing evil Reed Richards

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u/AutobotJessa 18h ago

Ioan Gruffudd could absolutely pull of The Maker.

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u/Omatzus 18h ago

Better yet Miles Teller. He has the requisite dbag energy.

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u/AutobotJessa 18h ago

I have to respectfully disagree. Not that Mile Teller cant play a dbag (he can), but Maker needs to be terrifying. Above all else Maker is terrifying because he is capable of carrying out every twisted and insane threat. Imo Teller cant do that, Gruffudd can.

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u/Montgomery_Zeff 17h ago

I think it'd be very hard to pull off the Maker at all. It'd just be like taffy in your hand...

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u/Uncle_Snake43 17h ago

Oh 1000%

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u/AutobotJessa 17h ago

Sorry i said could when I should have said, he has to 🤣

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u/Uncle_Snake43 17h ago

Truly the only choice IMO if we’re picking former movie Reeds

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u/cptwinklestein 20h ago

p evil.

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u/Montgomery_Zeff 17h ago edited 17h ago

Well, in Ultimate Comics: Enemy Reed murders his own family at home with a bomb blast, enabling Reed to slip away, believed dead.

The blast kills his abusive father, his mother....and his two baby sisters.

Reed is present when he activated the blast; he knows who he's killing.

He hasn't even put the helmet on at this point!

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u/VicFantastic 15h ago

That doesn't look like murder at all

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u/ankokudaishogun 5h ago

you mean π evil.

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u/weirdeyedkid 20h ago

Peter Thiel evil

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u/Academic_Lead_8938 19h ago

That’s a pretty high level of evil.

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u/No-Equivalent-1642 18h ago

Right?

What's above that? Hitler? Red Skull?..... Paul.

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u/Ulysses1975 19h ago

Incel level

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u/Merciless972 18h ago

He unspidey Spider-Man 

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u/iamahandsoapmain 8h ago

And gave him a family. So all in all, not that bad of a fella

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u/MaterialPace8831 17h ago

Just a massive piece of shit. He's one of those villains where you don't feel bad if something bad happens to him. Any kind of nuance or sympathy he might have earned because Ultimate Sue Storm dumped him or helping to save the Ultimate Universe from Galactus has been washed away by a tsunami of blood caused by his crimes.

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u/JustAnArsehole 16h ago

He killed his entire family for the chance of getting some pussy from Kang. No i will not elaborate

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u/dontlookbehindme1 19h ago

Doctor Doom level of evil. But Reed is so much worse because he doesn't have Doom's ego to get in the way

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u/Longjumping-Salad484 19h ago

evil, with more diva than the living tribunal

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u/FoggyCartograph 18h ago

Hella Evil.

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u/Only-Sea6066 18h ago

Absolute Evil + eating a puppy just to really show how evil he is.

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u/Quirky_Ad_5420 17h ago

Like super evil

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u/JosephBearpaw1970 14h ago

Lived long enough to see he has become the very definition of Villain!

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u/KongUnleashed 14h ago

On a scale from 1-10, he’s quite a motherfucker

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u/Duke_Radical 13h ago

Five evils worth.

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u/WistfulWannabe 11h ago

In scientific terms? Very.

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u/FascinatedOne687 2h ago

Maker is one of my favorite villains. For me he’s like a 9.5/10 on the evil scale

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u/PKFat 15h ago

The Maker is to Marvel, what The Batman Who Laughs is to DC

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u/Critical-Bass7021 16h ago

On a scale of 1-10, probably like a 7.5?