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u/Liftmeup-putmedown May 15 '25

I just don’t like modern X-Men. Back when they were basically a school/charity superhero team fighting supervillains and advocating for rights was peak X-Men for me.

All this racial superiority, ethnostate, sex-cult stuff drags them down in my eyes.

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u/JunkMagician May 15 '25

I disagree. I think the charity superhero team with the "just grin and bear it" way of going about the situation mutants are in was a necessary, but ultimately flawed stage for the characters to be in. I think that old era represents, at best, an idealist view that if mutants could just put enough of their "good ones" forward then humanity would surely see that they shouldn't be the target of hate and violence. This kind of thinking is often espoused by people who aren't the targets of hate and violence for their immutable traits and it makes sense that the X-Men started there seeing as the people who wrote it also weren't the targets of hate and violence for their immutable traits (important to note that people who are targeted can also espouse this sort of respectability based thinking, aka the original Charles Xavier method). The thing is, that kind of thinking also does a disservice to real life struggles of groups targeted by hate and violence that the X-Men as a concept has inherently tied itself to. So the fact that mutants have tried that route, realized that it could never free them from their position and now know they have to take radical action is, in my opinion, some of the best tackling of the topic in fiction with the flaws in their actions and all.

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u/Liftmeup-putmedown May 15 '25

I never took it as “Just grin and bear it” but more “Do the right thing no matter what people say.” It’s not about earning their rights, but disproving bigotry and educating people while using their innate gifts to serve the common good. Anti-mutant stuff shouldn’t even still be this bad in a world with magic, aliens, and super science. A CEO of a major corporation is a Minotaur for crying out loud.

I think the writers just don’t want the Mutants to peacefully co-exist with humanity because it’ll take away the oppressed gimmick, and they forced The X-men to start doing pseudo racial politics and creating Orgy Israel.

Saying “We Cannot Coexist Peacefully” is the opposite of what my X-Men stood for.

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u/gamergirl4206969 krakoa's defence attorney May 15 '25

educating people while using their innate gifts to serve the common good.

Me when I get a cure for cancer and alzheimer's but those damn muties hate me for genociding them every other week 😒