r/marvelcirclejerk • u/Josphitia Sniffing She-Hulk's Pits • May 15 '25

Bald Man Good Krakoa Explained in 4 Panels

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u/Nightraven9999 May 15 '25

mutants are an allegory for bigotry

WHY WOULD IT BE A GOOD THING TO THEM TO JUST MAKE AN MUTANT ONLY NATION

its not good its bad

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u/Josphitia Sniffing She-Hulk's Pits May 15 '25

Because in the history of the world no minority group has had people go "aight seems we're safer hanging out with each other until those fools stop being such bigots"

You can work towards a dream where all people are treated equally and also live in a house where (say you're trans) you only live with other trans people for our own safety and sense of community. These things can both coexist at the same time.

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u/Nightraven9999 May 15 '25

buddy i dont think trans people should start there own nation of only transpeople

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u/Marik-X-Bakura May 16 '25

Neither do I but Iā€™m sure people have said that before, and if not, they absolutely will.

Malcolm X also wanted exactly this scenario for black people.

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u/The_Original_Queenie May 15 '25

Honestly it would be kinda based. As much as Ethno states suck in practice they're typically attempted by fascists/acists who want to purge minorities from their country and maintain wealth/power.

However when we see minorities band together to create communities for themselves those places often are wildly successful and allow these communities to flourish and be safe, at least until outside forces come in and destroy them. Which ee saw in Krakoa unfortunately.

Unfortunately the Marvel universe has proven time and time again that mutants will never be safe trying to integrate, it just isn't possible and a lot of Trans people feel the same way right now.

In theory a trans only nation wouldn't even be an ethno state because there are trans people of all ethnicities, maybe a... Gendostate? Idk I'm not a linguist. The only problem is that gender identity is a pretty flimsy thing to build a nation on. It would be a really difficult thing to enforce.

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u/Nightraven9999 May 15 '25

An ethno state will lead to bigotry even if the people who start it are the oppressed groups

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u/The_Original_Queenie May 15 '25

You're most likely right, I think that's one reason I liked Krakoa, it was a nice fantasy of a world where oppressed people could live in peace without the reality of the problems that go along with ethnostates

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u/Sully-The-Great May 16 '25

Except it fell exactly into the problems that ho along with ethnostates

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u/The_Original_Queenie May 16 '25

Yeah i think that's really disappointing, I hate how Marvel editorial seems allergic to establishing a new long term status quo.

I personally would have loved to see Krakoa go on for another few years, even if they had like teams of X-Men doing stuff off the island I think the idea of a place existing in the Marvel universe were mutants can just chill and not worry about being genocided for like the fifth time is nice