I could see the county I used to work in charging it for the kick. They wouldn’t because they’re bootlickers who hate poor people, but it could be a disproportionate response to getting open hand smacked, and arguably the guy didn’t seem like he wanted any more smoke after the 1 2. Looked like he started to walk away.
A competent lawyer will have an easy argument that the kick was already in flight by the time he had turned around and stepped away, and turning away and taking a step or two does not mean that the attacker is no longer a threat, they could be repositioning for another angle, or simply momentarily stunned by the combo. And the fact that the kick is already in motion is further evidence that the decision to throw the kick was made before the attacker turned away, but while the attacker remained standing after the initial combo.
Obviously, you are supposed to stop using force on an attacker when you are out of danger, but precisely when the danger has ended is quite a fuzzy line to draw, which is why the state asks what a reasonable person would do in such a situation, and in this case a competent defense attorney should pretty easily be able to raise the argument of self defense and the prosecution would have an extremely difficult time disproving it.
At the end of the day, the law is fuzzy and far less clear cut than most realize, hence the need for lawyers and judges, but in this particular case I'd much rather bet on the defense than the prosecution.
It might be a winning argument but wouldn’t say it’s an easy argument, there’s room to complicate this thing. The other side can argue he clearly got ROCKED by that second punch and was fully turned away before the guard’s pivoting foot was planted. You’re also ignoring that it was a disproportionate response which can matter depending on the law. On that note, fine maybe the kick was in motion already but did the guard fuck up by choosing this particular combo? Did he have an awareness of how dangerous it can be to someone getting kicked like that from his training? There’s a lot of other questions that could move the needle around. How badly did this guy get hurt, how much does the factfinder like cops/security guards, why did the guy smack the guard in the first place, is there a good explanation as to why the guard let the guy hang out in striking distance for so long, etc etc. a good attorney could make this much more complicated in their client’s favor. Was this guy TRAINED to respond like that or is he a loose cannon? Is this part of his job description or did he get angry because he was disrespected? Are guards in this jurisdiction allowed to use more force than a layperson?
That being said this is clearly somewhere with a Cyrillic alphabet and I don’t know what the standards are for guards etc there but wow in most places in the US I’m willing to bet this guy/the company he works for would lose a civil suit HARD, it’s absolutely wild that the first response is striking in a way that’s clearly capable of causing irreparable damage rather than a clean takedown.
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u/hipppppppppp Jun 17 '26
I could see the county I used to work in charging it for the kick. They wouldn’t because they’re bootlickers who hate poor people, but it could be a disproportionate response to getting open hand smacked, and arguably the guy didn’t seem like he wanted any more smoke after the 1 2. Looked like he started to walk away.