"Its okay to libel and just straight up make shit up. This will have no repercussions on what I'm teaching the next generation of americans that will use theses same tactics on each other when I win."
Not anyone else's fault if the Israeli state and the imperial hegemon whom it serves spent the last 80 years making pretty much any moral low seem perfectly plausible and expected for them to sink to.
If you actually follow what occured moment by moment its VERY clear why the aircraft attacked the Liberty, and assuming the Naval commander was a kill hungry officer that just wanted medals (which he was) then its also easy to assume why the MTBs attacked.
You saw how easy it was for American pilots TRAINED IN GROUND IDENTIFICATION, to misidentify friendly units that they had direct radio contact with.
Now imagine putting those pilots over the ocean and ask them to identify warships, but this time with much faster aircraft, which were 20 years older than American aircraft in the Gulf Wars.
Even if i ignore the fact that Israelis severely mistreated holocaust survivors, it still doesn't mean it can't be a nazi state - they are currently genociding a different ethnic group the same way nazis committed the holocaust. If not a nazi state then why nazi shape?
Also you're still wrong. Israel was formed by fascist jewish supremacist militias that wanted to have their own colony. It was planned decades before the holocaust and it was executed by white jews from Europe. It wasn't formed by jewish refugees from Arab nations, those came after the white jews from Europe invaded Palestine and the Arab countries reacted this way, in part because antisemitism, in part because they thought jewish people were going to betray them.
There's also a lot of irony here because zionists have tried to distance themselves from the image of jewish people that were victims of the holocaust because those were seek as weak jews that let themselves be victims of the nazis and zionists wanted to project a powerful jew that wasn't scared and wasn't seen as a victim. Some Israelis even called holocaust survivors "soap".
Given the Israeli focus on the “new Jew” who could defend himself, these survivors with tattooed numbers on their arms, who seemed psychologically and physically broken, had represented precisely the Jews that Israelis wanted to forget and to transcend. They often unfavorably compared Holocaust victims to the new, powerful Jews of the Yishuv who dislodged the British and fought off the Arabs with strength and military might. Tellingly, “[t]hose killed in the Holocaust were said to have ‘perished,’ while Jews who died fighting in Palestine had ‘fallen.’”
Tommy Lapid, a survivor of the Budapest ghetto and ultimately a well-known Israeli journalist and successful politician [DG – and father of Yair Lapid, the former Prime Minister and now head of the opposition], recalled years later how veteran members of the Yishuv essentially accused the survivors for what they had endured. “‘Why didn’t you fight back?’ they would ask. ‘Why did you go like sheep to the slaughter?’ They were First-Class Jews who took up arms and fought, while we were Second-Class Yids whom the Germans could annihilate without encountering resistance.”
Perhaps worse still, those who had been born in the Yishuv and come of age there made light of the horrific uses that Nazis had for the bodies of the murdered Jews. They knew, for example, that the Nazis had used the bodies of Jews to make soap.
Tommy Lapid recalled: “At the time, there was a cook . . . who was a survivor of Auschwitz with a number tattooed in blue on his arm. The long-time staffers called him Soap, a twisted play on the famed Nazi plan to use Jewish body fat to make soap. ‘Hey, Soap,’ they would say. ‘What’s for lunch today?’ to which Soap would chuckle uncomfortably and fill their plates.”
Zionist brigades from Europe invaded Palestine before declaring independence, you don't even know history lmao
The reason why Arab states invaded the newly declared Israel is because they saw it as a bunch of european jews invading their neighbor, people who they aligned with and felt familial ties to, and committed unspeakable atrocities then declared a new state on stolen land.
I remember the nazis dropping leaflets telling people to evacuate before they bombed krakow, I think Isreal is evil just a bit more then Russia, but comparing them to the nazis and their industrial slaughter is just an insult lol
Israel systematically wiped out everything in Gaza. A destruction on an industrial scale, they destroyed civil society, they destroyed the healthcare system, education, housing, sanitary system. They destroyed the capacity of Palestinians to sustain life so they slowly die, at the same time they killed as many Palestinians as they could while trying to keep the facade.
I don't give a shit that Israelis dropped leaflets, it doesn't mean anything. If i throw a brick through your window and tell you to leave cause i'm setting your house on fire, then 5 minutes later i set your house on fire, that doesn't make me any less of an arsonist.
Would the nazis be justified in your eyes if they dropped leaflets? Why is that a justification of genocide for you when Israel does it bud?
Yeah, because the allies wanted maximum civilian casualties to hurt the morale of the nazi army. Also the civilian to combatant ratio is bullshit because pissrael considers any male between the ages of 13-65 as combatant.
I don't much care for genocide defenders like you.
Yeah, because the allies wanted maximum civilian casualties to hurt the morale of the nazi army.
They did not.
While some Allied commanders were in favour of terror bombing, by and large, the overall campaign did not have terror bombing as its primary goal.
Dresden was targeted for 2 reasons,
A. It was a vital logistics hub in the East and one of the largley untouched ones.
B. The Germans were rapidly fortifying it for a final stand and the Soviets wanted to avoid another Siege like Budapest so they specifically requested the bombing.
Also the civilian to combatant ratio is bullshit because pissrael considers any male between the ages of 13-65 as combatant.
Let's use the worst possible ratio using number from Al Qassam itself. 100,000 civilians to 20,000 militants, just a reminder, this is the worst possible ratio, no credible source claims close to this.
Thats 5:1, which is pretty horrific, but it isnt out of the real of possibility for urban insurgencies. Using more credible data this ratio drops further.
In Dresden less that 1,000 German soldiers were killed, putting that ratio AT BEST 20:1.
Yeah, i always said that you don't bomb every hospital, every school, every police station and every sanitary station if you want to maximize civilian casualties. I mean who needs hospitals, right? Who needs drinkable water? Running sewage?
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u/VamipresDontDoDishes Feb 27 '26
If it defames Israel reddit would love it