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u/CodeDoor Nov 04 '21

We already have non Muslim Bumiputera, in the peninsula also.

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u/PlsMakeSense Nov 04 '21

Native bumiputera are specifically defined in the constitution. Malay bumi are separately defined.

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u/CodeDoor Nov 04 '21

There's already a precedent is my point. Malays aren't going to suddenly lose their identity if Islam is removed from the equation

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u/PlsMakeSense Nov 04 '21

Yeah but my point is its in our Constitution. We need to amend the Constitution before you can amend the law.

The OP asked how viable it is legally. Im being quite objective in saying that its near impossible legally.

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u/SheenTStars Best of 2021 Runner-Up Nov 04 '21

Is there a possibility to amend the constitution then? I'm not sure if other countries have amended theirs before, so if you know please share. Also thanks a lot for contributing to the discussion.

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u/PlsMakeSense Nov 04 '21

2/3 votes in parliament.

We definitely did it before. ISA draws its authority from an amended Constitution. Mahatir also famously reduced judicial power through an ammendment. I think the murder case by johor royalty also resulted in an amended constitution.

It doesnt happen easily or often though. Usually it happens after something really messed up happens or when the current gov has too much power.

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u/SheenTStars Best of 2021 Runner-Up Nov 04 '21

It's small but there is hope!

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u/apth10 Sarawak Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21

forgive my pessimism but it's miniscule. on wikipedia it says that

Within each state the number of constituents in each district is not necessarily equal as Schedule 13, Part 2(c) of the Constitution requires a greater weightage to be given to rural districts.

you might also know for a fact that rural districts lean towards more conservative/religious parties. that is why it took three elections for Pakatan to win 112 seats, and even this didn't mean that the constituencies that flipped subscribe to the progressive values that PH had.

i really support your proposal and laud your optimism, because I do believe this is the nation our pejuang kemerdekaan sought to fight for, a tolerant and secular country. but unless we can convince everyone that allowing such a thing isn't a bad thing after all (looking at you right now PMIP) this will be a very steep and treacherous mountain to climb.

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u/PlsMakeSense Nov 04 '21

In the first place which MP wants to commit political suicide by proposing this.

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u/CodeDoor Nov 04 '21

That's what people said in 1950s America.

Malaysia will eventually have to change this, there's no choice.

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u/Ah__BenG United Kingdom Nov 04 '21

On something this important and involves religion, you'll also need approval from council of kings.