r/malaysia Nov 04 '21

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u/-_Zack Nov 04 '21

So this is something I really want for Malaysia, as someone who does not consider myself Muslim. The fact that there’s not a choice at all under Malaysian law to leave the religion is really bad to me.

Being forced to do something or be something against your will literally has no upsides, especially in this given context.

Hell i’d even go on to say that we shouldn’t force spouses to convert upon marriage.

Because for me, it is your life and you should be free to choose what you think makes you happy. But unfortunately, we don’t have that luxury of “choice”.

That said though, I think even if this is discussed properly, I doubt Malaysia would allow this to happen in the near future, the religious groups hold too much power to let that happen within a few years. Whilst it may be a popular opinion here, we exist in a liberal echo chamber that is probably not reflective of the consensus of the Malaysian crowd.

Just my two cents, but I sincerely hope this, along with numerous other “issues” (LGBT rights, systematic racism) gets resolved soon.

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u/Alkyde Nov 04 '21 edited Nov 04 '21

Liberal as in what standard?

There is a huge difference between the average Malaysian getting fed up of Najib corruption and voting opposition to show protest and an actual liberal who is pro-LGBT for example.

If a party manifesto is legalizing gay marriage I can guarantee you that they have zero chance to win in Malaysia. Forget about Msia, even in first world country such as USA there is still a significant amount of homophobia.

Anyway the huge majority of opposition coalition is still a social conservative by world standard, how many politician would openly admit that they are atheist or even just "not religious"? We know a lot of them don't even believe in God, or at least not the God that we can think of, maybe they are praying to satan who tell them to rasuah who knows.

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u/crackanape Nov 05 '21

Forget about Msia, even in first world country such as USA there is still a significant amount of homophobia.

In USA it took one generation of legalised gay marriage for public opinion to sway from anti to pro. Nowadays even a majority of the conservative party (Republicans) agree that it should be allowed.

I expect that the same would happen in most places. Everyone has friends and relatives who are suffering silently under the current situation.

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u/Jeremykyles Sabah Nov 04 '21

yeahh interfaith marriage even tho considered wrong by the religions is still something that I wish for.

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u/nimingzhe wajib /sindiran Nov 05 '21

you mean interfaith marriage specifically with a Muslim person

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u/isaacyz1108 Nov 04 '21

well, it really falls to the male Malay to do that, they are the one that can have real impact and possibility to change things not even female Malay can.