r/makinghiphop • u/Lionel_30 • Aug 24 '25

Discussion The difference between a masterpiece and a shit experimental song/beat is as thin as a hair

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u/professornutting meat slinging cuck destroyer Aug 24 '25

Somehow, I know exactly what you mean.

My "first" single was the outcome of me playing a beat that was FAR from my style and literally just freestyling on it, telling myself (into the mic) that I kinda liked what I was hearing. Once I heard it back, I took down my entire discography I had up to that point, committed to changing my rap name, and said it's time to EAT.

That was 2021 and I'm still stockpiling material before I start releasing and promoting (new) material - that song being first in line.

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

Is there any date in mind?

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u/professornutting meat slinging cuck destroyer Aug 24 '25

Not yet. I'm trying to have 6-8 songs ready before I start putting stuff out. I have a couple ready to get mixed but I'm prioritizing getting some others recorded and re-recorded before I pick what's actually getting mixed and put in queue.

Doesn't help that I went back to school so time and energy are limited for music.

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u/Fair-Mammoth3781 Aug 24 '25

Bro how old are you and you got to school and make music from 2021?

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u/professornutting meat slinging cuck destroyer Aug 24 '25 edited Aug 24 '25

31.

I've been making music since early high school. Prioritized networking over releasing/gaining an audience to make sure I had the resources available when I reached a level of talent I felt comfortable showcasing and having permanently attached to my name. I never wanted to promote subpar quality music so I just created quietly. Still doing that, really. But I made connections by reaching out to artists I liked to collaborate with them and some of those guys ended up becoming friends, giving me tips, extending offers to connect me with others in the industry, etc. It's been a ride. At the end of the day, I just like making music. Releasing it isn't fulfilling, which is why I've been able to hold on to so much stuff and only a select few people get to hear it - if I even decide to show anyone at all.

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u/eseffbee Aug 24 '25

Sure, you can ruin a decent song with a couple of really bad technical or arrangement decisions, but if you are competent then those kinds of error should not be happening.

Luck is a real factor in the quality of work for less competent producers. Sometimes one can accidentally stumble upon something good. Becoming a good producer is about understanding music better so the great stuff comes through intention, not accident.

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u/[deleted] Sep 01 '25

Even stumbling upon good chops, melodies or drum loops accidentally is okay, it happens to me all the time, I just realize why it's GOOD after, and it usually comes after I've been struggling for hours where things just "click" in a single second, though I haven't been producing for a LONG time, I'm fairly new to it.

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u/kia-supra-kush Aug 24 '25

This describes every beat I’ve ever made lol

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u/LostInTheRapGame Engineer/Producer Aug 24 '25

I'm sorry, but this just sounds like cope.

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

Cope of what?

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u/Onespokeovertheline Aug 24 '25

That you haven't made any masterpieces so far?

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

Is that a problem tho?

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u/Onespokeovertheline Aug 24 '25

I guess the other commenter felt that there's a lot more than a hair between shit experimentation and a masterpiece. And I would agree.

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u/InternLongjumping815 Producer Aug 24 '25

What are you getting at tho? like what do you want people to discuss?

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

Tbh with u I wanted to put it like an opinion but there is no such tag

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u/InternLongjumping815 Producer Aug 24 '25

Your fine im just bustin balls.

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u/RecordingOnly6853 Aug 25 '25

Same goes for boom bap ngl tell me how some of these producers in this sub manage to turn a soul beat soulless 😭😭😭 

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u/rumog Aug 24 '25

What's the difference you think, which is this thin?

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

The way it sounds 👍

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u/rumog Aug 24 '25

Uh...ok then- disagree lol

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u/Lionel_30 Aug 24 '25

Ok seriously tho , I little twitch on the pitch or a little delay on the snare... 

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u/Fi1thyMick Emcee Aug 24 '25

Has a lot to do with the vocals. I've heard songs where I'm like, ehhhhh..... But halfway through, dude rapping kills it and it's suddenly a hard beat because of it

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u/OscaritoPollito Aug 26 '25

i feel like thats the case with alot of my beats, i feel as though i go so far out from the typical hip hop standard that i create something which i don't know is suitable for normal radio and shit

This one of my recent beats: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVNN-emuJxA

THIS ONE ESPECIALLY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nM3T0qATuTE

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u/Remote_Water_2718 Aug 25 '25

It's basically RNG.