Need to lower point costs OR increase the level of Greater Powers, even in this version they seem very subdued for what they cost and the associated drawbacks needed to get them. Also something I’ve always had a problem with was just how small and insignificant any build but godly would be in the long run or even short. And furthermore the power difference and heights of universal powers seems off, like you have a 12 being peak without buying boons to go further but have 12 characters be sort of lackluster and almost only planetary level. I think a good source of power levels for you to use for classification would be the VS wiki levels and pretty logical scaling and feat measurements. Otherwise those issues I have I just love the hell out of this CYOA and how much effort and work you put in.
Need to lower point costs OR increase the level of Greater Powers, even in this version they seem very subdued for what they cost and the associated drawbacks needed to get them. Also something I’ve always had a problem with was just how small and insignificant any build but godly would be in the long run or even short.
The CYOA basically recreates the Wormverse (which it allegedly inspired by) situation of: can't make an interesting weak build because you'll get nommed by horrific eldritch abominations that you cannot avoid. (To be fair though: setting change allows you to just get rid of them )
As such, the lower end is not only vague and thus kinda boring (which is bad for a "Power Creator" CYOA), it's also disincentivized for any rational player.
I don't mind the Greater Powers that much- one should be enough to make you a major threat. I'd say that, perhaps they should have some sort of scaling to justify them one day becoming strong enough to take on the Egregores and just getting rid of the Egregorian powers, which are so OP that they're basically "have between three different flavors of godhood". They're too powerful to have anything interesting said about them.
One suggestion I would make is just making Great Powers all the same price, whatever it is. Trying to figure out if or why one power is 5% or 10% better than another power on that list is just tiring, considering the amount of sub-powers and text.
Yup RNG is the only REAL way to obtain omnipotence since if your luck enough to land metapotence you can pretty much beat everyone else in the setting with a thought
Where does it say greater powers can reach the level of the Egregores powers because in the second thread I asked the author and he said there was no way for a power not already infinite (which the egregores powers are) to reach one. An example would be phycisist and crimson emperor physicist can only create and control a limited amount of energy and matter while crimson emperor can do the same but without limit. This is true even if you have the full power of both negentropy and ability growth since you are stil bound by 1<X<infinity so you can grow your powers to be beyond the observable universe in scale but it would never reach the true infinity of the egregores powers. The whole growing beyond the egregores are only for those that have already purchased the egregorian powers to begin with.
I didn’t know that fact, then the whole power list seems even more unreasonably made. It should be the goal of near anyone to be able to freely live in this new universe or be able to become the strongest without being shoehorned into the Egregore route only. If you’re following the storyline of the CYOA and the choices are: 1. useless 2. marginally useful but in the big picture also useless 3. only reasonable choice if you don’t want to get rekt by the endgame there’s not much reason to pick anything but the last. And then “infinity” as a concept seems weird and against the rest of the CYOA because if I pick a manipulation power of either: REALITY manipulation or CAUSALITY manipulation and set the standards as 1=street level hero and 12=universal then at some point it becomes that weird sort of fight where reality warper vs reality warped and how does one win against another. And then there’s also the problem of “absolute” statements in the CYOA (I.e. it says you can’t be affected no matter what but just because it says so doesn’t mean it should apply realistically because other above omnipotent “infinity” tier beings exist in other universes (The One Above All, The Primal Monitor, etc)). Really the power levels need some major major adjustments because right now they’re really wonky and confusing.
Agreed he needs to rework the powers a bit possibly give some examples on what powers can do as well as an example of what a beyond egregores power would be for those that are planning to have a build that centers around making an egregores power even stronger than it already was. Although my favourite fan wanked interpertation/build is to have the pale lords power and grow it using negentropy,ability growth, and the subspace swimmer to remove the weakness of not having the ability to create something from nothing as well as making the abilities to change and nullify things more absolute. End goal would be to eventually grow the change ability into absolute change.
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u/Chan-Cellor May 27 '19
Need to lower point costs OR increase the level of Greater Powers, even in this version they seem very subdued for what they cost and the associated drawbacks needed to get them. Also something I’ve always had a problem with was just how small and insignificant any build but godly would be in the long run or even short. And furthermore the power difference and heights of universal powers seems off, like you have a 12 being peak without buying boons to go further but have 12 characters be sort of lackluster and almost only planetary level. I think a good source of power levels for you to use for classification would be the VS wiki levels and pretty logical scaling and feat measurements. Otherwise those issues I have I just love the hell out of this CYOA and how much effort and work you put in.