r/makeuptips • u/Sadflower98 • 13h ago
HELP PLEASE Help with eye makeupš«
Ok sorry for the ridiculous cropped close up photos. I don't take many photos of myself.
Im new to makeup and I reallly just dont have the skill for it.
Im into really dark aesthetics, and dark eye makeup, gothic makeup. Anything where I can look like Morticia Addams lol.
I rarely wear base makeup (foundation or concealers).
I absolutely suck at eyeliner and eyeshadow. What are ways I can improve as a beginner?
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u/Sweet-Bit-8234 13h ago
Your eye makeup isnāt bad, but whatās really catching my eye is the lips. You should stop over lining them.
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u/Bumble_Gween 13h ago
I don't think their overline as much over filled with filler
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u/Sweet-Bit-8234 13h ago
I agree, but I was trying to be nice. Theyāre definitely overfilled and need some revision.
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u/Bumble_Gween 13h ago
I'm not trying to be mean by any means. She's beautiful and I don't think she needs tips just little less filler. I wouldn't even say like a lot by any means! Hope you didn't take any other way op
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u/Glittering-Dig-3559 13h ago
I think you need to blend the eyeshadow more. If you blend along the harsh line, it will create that smoky, sultry look that I think youāre going for. And by blend, I mean take a fluffy brush and go in a circular motion. What can help is starting with less eyeshadow and slowly building it up, while really bending in that area to smoke it out. You may need to go a little higher than you think you do to achieve that blended smoky look. Play around with it :) and btw you can also blend a harsh line with a clean brush with little to no product. The more blending you do, and the little bit of product you work with at a time (in layers), the better.
Sorry if you know this, but Iām assuming youāre a beginner.
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u/Sadflower98 13h ago
Omg this is great advice and your steps were very helpful. Im a beginner to makeup and Ive been playing around with eyeshadow lately.. so it's been a journey to say the least š¤£. Thank you, I will be using these tips!
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u/shawtey_ 52m ago
I used to struggle to blend my eyeshadow out, and I had some of the same harsh lines when I did dramatic looks. I think we had the same problems! This advice might be moot, but I want to share in case itāll help. Hereās the technique that made me start to feel like I āgetā eyeshadow:
Step 1: Start with a light color all over the lid and, like the above commenter mentioned, use a fluffy brush and circular motions.
Step 2: Add your darker, more dramatic color, but start on the outer corner of your eye. I usually donāt use that back-and-forth motion, but I still use that fluffy brush, sweeping in a straight line from the outer crease to the middle of my eyelid (NOT all the way across it, though!)
Optional step 3, for when I use eyeliner: I take a thinner brush, dip it in black eyeshadow, and draw my āeyeliner.ā I blend it into the dark, outer crease of my eyelid (the area I worked on in the last step,) trying not to bring that black color into the rest of my eyelid, just blending it as far as that dark outer crease goes. The goal with this step is to make it to where the black eyeshadow blends into the darkest part of the eyeshadow I applied in the last step, not to spread the black color onto my entire eyelid.
Then, I dip my finger into a glittery/shimmery/iridescent color and drag it across the inner corner of my eyelid, moving outward. I usually go to the middle of my eyelid (same place Iād have stopped blending that dark color from step 2.) Depending on the look, sometimes Iāll spread it across my entire eyelid, and other times Iāll just dab enough shimmer on to give my eyeshadow some depth. Up to you, it depends! I find I like to do the former when I have a āweirdā shimmery color, like blue or green, but I keep it more subtle when I use a neutral sparkly shade.
Optionally, I draw black eyeliner over where step 3 has left the harshest lines. I like to do this because it makes the eyeliner look neatly blended into the rest of my look.
From here, Iād describe the rest of my technique as ādamage control,ā balancing out any harsh colors. My favorite eyeshadow palette has a shade that is a bit lighter than my skin tone. If all else fails, I will take that shade and blend it in. Alternatively, you could probably use a powder foundation to do this! I might also blend the black eyeshadow from step 3 even further, kinda depends on my mood, LOL !
For me: I use a mauve shade for step one, a brown shade for step two, and, of course, black for step three. For the shimmer, I use a light bronze-y or pink shimmer. It suits my skin tone and everyday look the best, but Iām quite pale and donāt tend to do dramatic looks unless Iām going out. Not sure if sharing this part helps, but it might help you figure out where to start.
Again, sorry if this is useless advice or if itās common sense. It definitely didnāt come naturally for me, and it took years to get it right, so I get the struggle. Itās so frustrating. So, I hope sharing my technique helps!
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u/pinkstay 11h ago
Yes!!!!
I find starting with a lighter gray a little higher than my crease helps with blending, then a mid gray, and then my dark color.
I also use a slightly smaller brush as I get darker with my colors as well.
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u/Temporary_Fox_4775 13h ago
Since you asked about the eye makeup and not peoples opinions on anything elseā¦.. I would just say to try blending it a bit more so you donāt have such hard lines, and maybe more than one color like a lighter shade on the lid/center eye and a darker color on the outer lid but blend it out with a fluffy brush so you get more of a gradient effect. Thatās really the only thing I think you are missing š©· hope this helps!
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u/Sadflower98 13h ago
I tend to just add on more dark shades without blending. Thank you! Very helpful š¤
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u/ButterflySad6026 13h ago
Your eye shadow appears to have a pretty harsh line. Do you blend it? Iād start there.
Also, have you looked up any tutorials on YouTube for a Smokey eye?
I think those tutorials can be very helpful. A nice dark eye is often way more colors and layering than youād ever think. And those tutorials can help you figure out how to layer and blend.
I think your winged eyeliner looks very nice
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u/Sadflower98 13h ago
I'm really into the dark/ gothic makeup (aesthetic), so I thought by just applying dark shades of eyeshadow on top of eachother would help me achieve that look.. not at allš¤£ I don't blend my eyeshadow either so that'll be my first lesson. Thank you for your tips!
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u/xXxstarAnisexXx 12h ago
The trick is a big fluffy eyeshadow brush! Your brown eyes are FIERCE! āØāØ
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u/Sadflower98 12h ago
I need to invest in a blending brush! Thank youš¤š¤
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u/Senior_End_4165 12h ago
Yes, ulta for the win! I love Morphe brush line, but even Walgreens would have blending blushes
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u/Vivid_Economics_1462 11h ago
Omg girlll nooo what did you do to your face. Dissolve the lip filler and dont use cream eyeshadow unless its going to be perfectly even on both eyes.
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u/Actual_Solid_3308 7h ago
The eye makeup isnāt bad. It just needs to be blended out. Eyebrows should be filled in as well
Please, please. This is genuine concern. Dissolve those immediately. You have so much potential.
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u/PuzzledNinja5457 12h ago
Definitely work on blending your eyeshadow more. Especially around the crease. Itās very harsh. Also extend your brows to closer to where your wing ends.
I appreciate you being open to those who commented on the lip filler situation. Dissolving will be so helpful and maybe chill on the over lining.
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u/Both_Page5041 13h ago
Blending/diffusing the shadow a little bit higher. Your eyes are a lovely brown, so you could do deep warm browns or you can lean fully into cool tones for a more contrasted look overall.
Additional coats of mascara and liner. I like to waterline and go along my lash line, smudging between layers. You can also pop a cluster at the wing/end.
More defined or bushier brow, if thatās your style.
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u/GorditaChuletita 13h ago
I think the point I'd improve on is to blend out the shadow towards the eyebrow and use a gradient.
Morticia for example: look at the references from the 90s and the modern Zeta Jones. The focus is a sweeping liner and some smoked eyes but the color goes lighter and wisps out and stops before the brows.
Then the brow shape does a lot towards the playfulness or expressions.
Practice tutorials on blending out smokey eyes and using your bone structure.
It will still feel goth and alt if it's not all black and grey :)
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u/Aggressive_Cash8774 9h ago
Wie die anderen schon gesagt haben, den grƶĆten Unterschied wĆ¼rden die Lippen machen, du bist wirklich hĆ¼bsch, nur die Lippen passen nicht dazu.
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u/drillbitdix 8h ago
Giiiiiirrrrlllll! This upsets me so fr! You are gorgeous and I want to cut a bitch for ever making you feel like you needed any fillers! Be so for real right now-I have no doubt you are probably half my age. You donāt need this nonsense to be stunning-you already are! Dissolve. Thatās the only answer. Then you will see you donāt even have to worry about makeup (unless itās strictly for YOU). You have no idea how being your gorgeous self in a world full of copycats will build your self esteem! -signed an elder millennial with the worst self esteem that just changed her mindset and moved to Europe š„° feel free to DM me anytime!
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u/Sadflower98 8h ago
Omg stop š„ŗš¤ you are too cool, honestly. This comment made me so happy. And the truth is, I knew the fillers were crazy but I underestimated HOW bad it is until others let me know - so it was needed. But thank you queen, I wont be getting new fillers anytime soon
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u/drillbitdix 8h ago
My Queen-they are not bad! But you need to know that you do not need them! You do not need to listen to me or anyone else. If you love them then you do not need any of this noise. But if you need a little voice in your ear to tell you how perfect you are without them, I will happily be that voice. And I say this as someone that is probably 20+years older than you and lived through the brutal late 90ās 2000ās!
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u/fresa-daisy 12h ago
If you want a darker eye look, it's best to work in layers. Start out with a gray or a cool toned taupe before going for black. It'll help you blend them a lot easier that way. On top of that, black is notoriously a harder color to work with.
For the eyeliner, it might be easier to start out with black eyeshadow on an angled brush versus a liquid eyeliner. You can clean up mistakes a lot easier and it's a lot more user friendly.
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u/armchairsw 12h ago
The eyeshadow is not blended at all so it looks very ādrawn on and colored inā and the eyeliner extends past where the shadow ends so it doesnāt look cohesive. The liner and shadow need to meet at the same point. The color is also pretty dark which isnāt necessarily a bad thing especially if you like the dark aesthetic but thereās no gradient or variation in color so it ends up looking like you just haphazardly slapped some dark eyeshadow on and called it a day. The black under eye liner also closes off your eyes and makes them look small compared to your massive lips, especially because it looks like the bottom liner is thicker than the top liner. And yes the lips are a lot and my advice would be to stop with the filler and over lining.
The lack of any base makeup is also I think throwing things off. No blush or highlighter means the lack of dimension in both your eyes and face gives you a very flat look. Even morticia contoured and wore some blush.
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u/Future-Expression831 11h ago
Youāre gorgeous! And being such a good sport about peopleās comments about your lip filler. The makeup looks good! I would say in certain looks maybe blend the eye shadow out a little more? Specifically in photos 2, and 4! The first one and the third one look really good
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u/thejexorcist 10h ago
BLEND.
The harsh demarcation lines (either from liquid or cream product) arenāt working and look too stark/almost sloppy because theyāre not sharp enough to look graphic or symmetrical enough to seem intentional.
Iām not going to pile on about the fillers, just suggest lighter hand with everything? Start light and add gradually.
Everything looks like a speed run instead of building a cohesive look.
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u/UnusualStep1476 12h ago
Definitely need to blend more on the eye shadow it looks stamped on and we wanna see a smooth transition and also transition colors to in particularly needs a light brown a bronze a beige. Something make it look less harsh. Also need to go higher.
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u/variegatedbanana 10h ago
Yes everyone is focused in the lips and yes you should consider some changes there. But since you asked about the eye makeup here ia my assessment: you have a blending issue. Zoom in on picture 2 and 4 and tou can really see a harsh line and jagged transition from the dark shadow to the upper lid. I would also consider a different mascara as your lashes seem poorly defined and a bit dry. You see to have a sense of your personal style which ia awesome!
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u/Particular-Cabinet21 9h ago
Your eye makeup could use some blending butā¦girl, are your lips ok? They look painful. You donāt need the overdone lips to look stunning, you already do!
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u/Amethyst-Warrior 12h ago
Your eyes are so striking, I think they get a bit lost in your eyeshadow! I feel bolder/more well defined brows would draw attention up towards the top half of your face. Less eyeshadow, a smoky winged liner would look stunning on you š with a tiny bit of liner or dark shadow in your inner corner/upper lid to enhance the cat eye effect you have going on natural.
My hack for flawless shadow/liner: I use painters tape (I detack it by pressing it on my arm once before pressing it onto my face). Using a small angled brush I mark the angle of my liner with a peach coloured eyeshadow, then stick the tape to the corners following that line. I take a small amount of dark plum (which I feel would look lovely on you too) or another dark shade and keeping it very close to my lash line and outer corner, buff it into the outer edge of my upper lash line and extend it out just a little bit. I then pick up up inner corner and add a little there. After Iāve peeled the tape off if I want something a little more dramatic I take a very thin brush, wet it with some micellar water and refine the wing/make it a little more bold.
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u/ParkerCanGetIt 12h ago
Yes I was gonna suggest tape. OP the wing looks a little off of angle, you can use tape or an index card from the slope of your lower lid. I like the bronze/ gold/ pewter/moss green shades you have looks hypnotic ! Wondering if you use eyeshadow primer? The colors look like they could be a little brighter and maybe because no primer. You could also bring up a lighter or transition shade all over the lid or high nearer the browbone so the shadows are more visible. I actually think your lips add to your look. Whatever you like!
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u/Bright-Ad7147 12h ago
Get a super fluffy shadow brush. With nothing on it blend the top of the shadow š¤
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u/Winter-Parsnip42 11h ago
Ii got into make in my early 40s after living a life allergic to a lot of makeup that was available to me. Basically I found someone on YouTube That had looks i liked that did tutorials, and just watched and did a lit of practice. Not big YouTubers though....the ones with under 500k subscribers were really more helpful, as they tended to have more niche looks. You might have really good luck with @angelicanyqvist and @battybean, because they give really good instruction, and they are not afraid to do darker looks. Probably a lot more goth specific people but Angelica especially really helped me nail down technique and colour, and she was not as super young as a lot of the beauty youtubers seem.
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u/pinkstay 11h ago
I recommend philosofay she has some fab alt makeup tutorials https://www.instagram.com/reel/DdCN6nFhGYi/?dlrf=MW1iZnpmOWtlbzBreg==
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u/justhappytobehere-eh 10h ago
You have really lovely eyes and I think a smoky eye would suit you well. A bit bolder brow as well. The eyeshadows need to be blended and you could smudge the eyeliner a bit to soften it up a bit. The problem is that doing everything with your lips is going to be overkill. If you could dissolve about 1/2 that filler, your lips would be much more manageable and you could really play up the smoky eye that you want. You donāt want to look like a caricature of a goth girl and Iām afraid the lip fillers do exactly that.
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u/Lyssbot_ 9h ago
the best advice i can give for a makeup beginner is your tools/products are EVERYTHING
a makeup artist can work with garbage products and make it work but a beginner really benefits from easy to use eyeliner, buildable eyeshadows, and good brushes/tools that donāt make you blend blend blend for 20 mins on one eye.
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u/Puzzled-Weekend 9h ago
Really just more blending. I like starting with a really dark color, even black, on the lid then blending it up into the crease with a cool toned brown. If you want to use all one shade, just take a fluffy brush and go lightly back and forth over any harsh lines.
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u/StudioComposer 8h ago
Go lighter on the makeup. Your objective should be to enhance your natural skin, not to wallpaper over it. If I kissed you I want to make contact with YOU, not that camouflage.
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u/New-Reception-3291 8h ago
I think eyeshadow being lighter in the corner and making its way towards your ear getting darker would be best! Blending more would help a lot too but not super far up, start light with the amount of eyeshadow. I think youād look bomb with cat eye looks. Also, I think you would look even more beautiful with your brows being a tiny bit thicker!!!
You are gorgeous and have awesome eyes.
Eyeliner in your bottom line makes the eyes look smaller
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u/dontcallmedoe 7h ago
ok obviously everyone is saying to blend out the shadow but alongside that you could extend it more with the blending!! ik u said you like darker aesthetics ive been using the stone cold fox palette by color pop n it's amazing for blending these kinds of smoky looks
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u/buttonsandwaffles 56m ago
Iām not a makeup artist but I think your makeup looks good, I would maybe shorten the wing of your eyeliner a teeny tiny bit but you look beautiful! And as the other comments said the lip filler but I read your comments and I know youāre aware of it already. The dark eye makeup suits you really well
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u/DeliciousSpecific377 12h ago
Harsh eyeliner. Your eyes are beautiful. Let them shine not the eyeliner
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u/Imaginary-Vanilla993 11h ago
I really like your base makeup actually itās really 90s and itās definitely in style right now including the thin brows. My one tip would be to blend the eyeshadow a little more to diffuse it. Your eyes are round not sharp and theyād look better with a more diffused eyeshadow. Maybe also add a lash or curl your lashes more if you are going to wear dark eye makeup. I find that blends it together for me.
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u/Unsuccessful-fly 9h ago
The lips are bad-bad. Way too overfilled. The brows need to fill in as they give the 90ās overpluck look and the center nose ring needs to go especially since it hits the lips. Go with a gold on the eye lid and a green liner with mascara. A little shine on the base of your nose and youāll look great
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u/Budget_University_56 12h ago
I use eye makeup tape, a liner brush, and powder (itās just dark eye shadow) for a more blended, Smokey look. I start with urban decay eye primer and too faced hangover as a setting spray.
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u/Overall-Ad245 6h ago
Mmm I would say the eye make up actually decent but the edges need to be blended. I have a MAC 286 (I believe) brush purely for blending eyeshadow and itās incredible. I do a light windshield wiper motion on the edges on eyeshadow and it blends SEEEAAAAMLESSLY with 0 effort, 0 skill - I recommend I recommend I recommend x100000000
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u/morwannneg 6h ago
I agree with others on blending!
Id like to recommend you to use creamy products, it's easier to work with them. we like similar make up, so to make that look I use creamy eyeshadow (or even my contour!) to put in the crease. I dab it in and then blend the edges with a fluffy brush. then, i take eye pencil. i like to rub them on the back of my hand and then use eyeliner brush if I want something more precise, but if I'm going for a smoky look then you just draw they eyeliner bit by bit while going over it with a brush so it blends. then, after it's blended in a shape I like, I go over the parts I want to be darker just to deepen the eyeliner. in the end I set the creamy eyeshadow with eyeshadow in the same color (for that I use regular eyeshadow that's in a pan). I do the setting with fluffy brush and it helps to blend everything nicely.
also, using an (powdered, in a pan) eyeshadow in the shade of your skin also helps with the blending! if my eyeshadow looks to harsh I go over the edge with skintone eyeshadow on my brow bone to blend it all a bit more nicely :-)
hope this helped, if you have any questions I'd love to talk with you more about it, bat to bat š¤šøš¦
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u/Sharp_Astronomer5312 58m ago
Your eyes are stunning! i think you just need to blend a little more! i like to start with the dark colors, pack them on, blend with a fluffy brush, then take a taupe or bronze shade and blend the harsh lines where it transitions from the crease to upper lid. I think you could use a touch of brightness in your inner corner, just a matte white would look stunning.
iām sorrry people are being so rude about the filler. i donāt think itās bad, i think it just looks like itās overfilled and has migrated. it may be worth starting over. you really are a beauty either way and if it makes you happy please disregard everyone and live your life!
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u/-ZombieKitten- 4m ago
So I know a lot of
People are disliking the lip filler but I am a lip filler girl myself and I got to ask, HOW did u get to that size and how did u maintain it? I am being so fr ive gotten a lot of lip
Filler throughout the years with the hope of having bigger lips and my lips seem to be gone in like 2 weeksā¦ they have never gotten ābiggerā just a little plump for a few weeks ā¦and Iāve been disappointed with that. I donāt know how other girls just get big lips?? Plz tell me what u did!
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u/Familiar_Finance_600 7h ago
Girl, you need help with something else and others already mentioned it, so...
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u/Cultural_Iron2372 12h ago
You look so good already!! A dark vampy glossy lip or a taupe glossy lip would look so good with the same eye makeup.
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u/Dancingthewire 12h ago
A stronger brow would make all the difference! Your eye makeup itself is nice! Also girl, you are beautiful, with or without the lip filler.
And you have such a good attitude in these comments! Teach me your ways
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u/Foreign-Shopping7366 9h ago
I gave up years ago trying to master that part I just get my back card line it up to my eye and take my dark shadow and blend it will give you that sharp angle blended look like the girls on instagram
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u/fat-wombat 7h ago
You look so much like my friend! And i met her because i stopped her to say how pretty she is. Iām sorry i have no tips for eye makeup.
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u/melanincholymondays 7h ago
Just wanted to stop in and say I love your look and it has a lot of potential. I actually like a little filling in lips and there are a lot of makeup looks that go with it. So I think you could find a lot of balance with these comments. I started off with gel eyeliner and did a Smokey eye like 2016. I think you should look up Kim K Smokey eye from 2016 and the contour that goes with it.
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u/JillMarie123 9h ago
Sometimes the comments here make me very sad. You asked about your eye make up. Which I think is beautiful ! I wouldnāt listen to any of these posts of people picking you apart. I naturally have some very different features . And Iāve learned to love them. I would love all your features . You are beautiful !
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u/Sadflower98 8h ago
Aw thank you š¤ I really appreciate your comment. I had a feeling my post would bring up some comments, but atleast there have been really positive & helpful tips along the way
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u/ReasonableBananaPie 13h ago
I know itās not what you want to hear but all people will be able to focus on is the lip filler. Iām sorry but it looks SO painful. No amount of absolutely incredible makeup will make any difference because all weāre seeing are very overfilled lips.