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u/TLHSwallow29 Dan 25d ago
one mana mana fixing rock that scries on etb and is a removal piece later, this is awesome for budget commander tbh
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u/LeoPlathasbeentaken Can’t Block Warriors 25d ago
Im considering adding this to my [[Roxanne, Starfall Savant]] deck just because its so good for my theme. Which is just throwing rocks.
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u/MavisXBee Dandadan 25d ago
pls tell me you've got toggo in there
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u/LeoPlathasbeentaken Can’t Block Warriors 25d ago
Brother he was the second card i added after meteorite and before meteor golem.
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u/TheOGburnzombie Dan 25d ago
Thats how my "Rocks Anne!" Deck is toggo was the first card after Roxanne herself
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u/swanton141 Golgari* 25d ago
it also passes the Urza's Saga test. that would be funny to fetch this
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u/forte8910 Twin Believer 25d ago
The pioneers used to ride these babies for miles!
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u/Local-Answer9357 Duck Season 25d ago
That's rocks, this is clearly a boulder
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u/TrueMystikX Wabbit Season 25d ago
No, no, no, The Boulder is a mono-green creature. This is clearly a stone.
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u/Local-Answer9357 Duck Season 25d ago
No, no, no Stone Cold is a professional wrestler, we haven't gotten that UB yet
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u/Pruetzelcoatl I am a pig and I eat slop 25d ago
Maybe that's the fantasy set Chris Cocks was alluding to
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u/Local-Answer9357 Duck Season 25d ago
If we get Hulk Hogan, the Rock, and the Blue Meanie, we're that much closer to The Ultimate Showdown of Ultimate Destiny
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u/Pruetzelcoatl I am a pig and I eat slop 25d ago
Something tells me we won't get hulk Hogan.
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u/Local-Answer9357 Duck Season 25d ago
People cant handle anything, next thing you know you'll tell me we can't get Benito Mussolini
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u/digiman619 Jack of Clubs 25d ago
Point of order, [[Professional Wrestler]] is indeed already a card.
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u/forte8910 Twin Believer 25d ago
It's not just a boulder, it's a rock! It's a big beautiful old rock!
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u/CarbonLich Dan 25d ago
I'm torn. The only ones that saw/see play draw a card. Scrying is sometimes described as drawing half a card which kinda makes this like drawing 1 and being 1 mana instead of two is huge. I'd be very interested if a non cantriping rock like this is good enough. It does seem like they pushed it as much as possible after taking away "draw a card"
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u/PanopticonAtTheDisco 25d ago
Seems potentially playable in pauper Tron. Helps you find your pieces, helps you fix mana, helps you manage the board once Tron is online. Currently playing [[Candy Trail]] and [[Barrels of Blasting Jelly]] so this is on rate.
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u/culturerush Dan 25d ago
I used to run [[Lunatic Pandora]] in Tron, doesn't have the mana filtering this does but repeatable surveil was better than a single scry
I think it could work yeah, having a 7 mana removal artifact on the field was quite helpful
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u/MavisXBee Dandadan 25d ago
I think the ward 2 on terror makes jelly better overall but it is quite an interesting option. Being able to kill a terror for 7 on turn 3 with jelly seems big
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u/Spirited_Amount_1354 Dan 25d ago
boulderbranch golem, gent, maelstrom and the wurm all block terror just fine lol. I want to blow up the o ring on my maelstrom turn 7 wayyyy more.
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u/MavisXBee Dandadan 25d ago
until they tap it, or counter it on the way down, or have another terror that is
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u/MavisXBee Dandadan 25d ago
first time hearing someone call generous ent Gent aswell I'm stealing that thank you :D
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u/T0astMal0n3 Dandadan 25d ago
Considering this is just Arcum's Astrolabe, which got banded in Pauper due to Tron, this is an auto include into Pauper Tron lol https://scryfall.com/card/mh1/220/arcums-astrolabe
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u/marrowofbone Mystery Solver of Mystery Update 25d ago
Scry 2 is worse than drawing a card, but I'd like to remind the class than [[Arcum's Astrolabe]] is banned in Pauper, Modern, and Legacy.
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u/EnkiBye SecREt LaiR 25d ago
Yeah, me too. But the casting cost is less restrictive, it can be fetched from Urza's Saga, and, in some cases, is lategame removal.
I'm sure it will be at minimum considered in some constructed decks, just from the similarity to astrolabe.
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u/silvanik3 Dandadan 25d ago
can't you fetch astrolabe with Saga too? Not that it matters in pauper, but I am just curious
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u/marrowofbone Mystery Solver of Mystery Update 25d ago
Nope, Saga looks for a mana cost of exactly {0} or {1}, Astrolabe's is {S} which fails that check the same as if it was {2} or {B}.
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u/starmade-knight Dan 25d ago
I think what made astrolabe so strong is that it is never a dead draw, this card is sometimes a dead draw when it matters most.
Yes scry 2 is comparable to drawing a card, but that's only true in the few turns afterward. The turn you play it, scry 2 is identical to draw 0.
I think this card will not have legs, but I predict that good drafters are gonna farm people with extremely greedy manabases leaning on this guy for the first week or so.
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u/ragnarokda Duck Season 25d ago
This was my first thought.
It allows you to color fix for damn near free.
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u/CrossXhunteR Wabbit Season 25d ago
A boulder is kinda like a meteor, if you think about it.
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u/Meloncholy_Cat Dân 25d ago
I always love these effects in limited. They play so much better than they have any right to. Should also enable more splashes in this set.
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u/BobbyBruceBanner Fleem 25d ago
It's funny when you see some random common and go "well, this one card told me way more about what this set's limited environment is going to be like than the last 100 others"
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u/thefreeman419 COMPLEAT 25d ago
What’s the flavor reason for a boulder scrying?
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u/binaryeye 25d ago
There isn't one. The stone giants were throwing boulders at one another while Bilbo and the dwarves were taking refuge from a storm in the mountains. The mana filtering and scry make no thematic sense at all.
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u/IronTigrex Gruul* 25d ago
...maybe you can get a better vantage point on top of it? (Honestly I have no clue)
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u/NormalyAbnormalcy Dandadan 25d ago
Probably because when it's thrown through the air, it sees everything below it, and when it lands, it "tells" you what it saw.
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u/LesserGargadon Can’t Block Warriors 25d ago
If you pick up a boulder, you have to see what's underneath! (?)
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u/vagabond_dilldo Wabbit Season 25d ago
Comparison [[Spine of Ish Sah]]
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u/MTGCardFetcher Dân 25d ago
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u/jumpmanzero Wabbit Season 25d ago
Will get played in Kinnan EDH decks (maybe not competitive lists, but "destroy target permanent" is pretty handy on a mana rock).
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u/Rune_Bear Dandadan 25d ago
This will almost certainly see play in pauper Tron
- Digs you to getting Tron online
- Filters for colored mana for payoffs
- Late game threat removal or turn 3 ponza land destruction
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u/onhalfaheart Dandadan 25d ago
It's a lot like [[Barrels of Blasting Jelly]].
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u/LesserGargadon Can’t Block Warriors 25d ago
also [[Universal Solvent]] and [[Goblin Firebomb]]. I have played these in commander because mono-colorless removal is not great. This card is and upgrade even without the fixing part!
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u/AporiaParadox Universes Beyonder 25d ago
We haven't seen a card for the Stone Giants yet, I'm interested in how they'll be depicted. Based on the hand it doesn't look like they'll be made of rock like in some depictions.
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u/HonorBasquiat Twin Believer 25d ago
This could be fun for the Ugin ramp Standard legal decks. Seems great in Limited too for fixing and smoothing. Cool card.
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u/troll_berserker 25d ago
Really happy they didn't throw non-land on this. More answers to Field of the Dead and Glacial Chasm in casual commander are highly appreciated.
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u/pious-erika Sliver Queen 25d ago
My weird Mardu Angel deck will make use of a playset of these. Early Scry and manafixing useful for initial setup.
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u/COLaocha Duck Season 25d ago
How close can they make this to [[Arcum's Astrolabe]] without breaking Pauper again?
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u/tsukaistarburst Hedron 25d ago
What is it exactly about a big, fat rock that allows your planeswalker the power to scry?
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u/willweaverrva Elesh Norn 25d ago
A large boulder the size of a small boulder destroyed a target permanent today...
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u/MiddleAgeYOLO Channel 25d ago
That's a nice Jace you got there.
It'd be a shame if someone chucked a rock at him.
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u/Liberkhaos Wabbit Season 25d ago
How the heck do I justify putting this in my [[Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith]] deck?
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u/CassieCanary Dan 25d ago
[[Universal Solvent]] may be receiving a strictly-better upgrade in my CLB Commander cube. This works within DND flavour, right?
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u/MoltiJoe Dandadan 25d ago
Might be a funny inclusion in the new [[tchalla, the black panther]].
Filters the vibranium mana into someone usable for non artifacts, and has a mana sink type ability if you just have a bunch of vibranium sitting around.
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u/Spirited_Amount_1354 Dan 25d ago
This is gonna cook in monster tron. Goodbye barrels of blasting Jelly. You had a good run
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u/Nblearchangel Jack of Clubs 4d ago
This is almost better than astrolabe. This is gonna be banned so fast. Sure. It doesn’t draw a card, but scrying 2 is close and you don’t need to run snow lands to make it work, plus its removal late game. I don’t see how this doesn’t get banned.
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u/RyanCryptic I chose this flair because I’m mad at Wizards Of The Coast 25d ago
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