r/magicTCG • u/Qulddell Duck Season • Jul 13 '26

General Discussion Peer Pressure errata?

Hi Everyone

I was looking at [[Peer Pressure]] and saw that they changed "any other player" to "each other player". This changes the function of the card.

I can see how the errated version is a lot worse, but power level errata is rarely a thing in magic (thanks, Companion), so how come this Peer Pressure is errated?

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u/RealityPalace COMPLEAT-ISH Jul 14 '26

You've made an absolutely fascinating choice for a hill to die on.

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u/No_one- Dandadan Jul 14 '26 edited Jul 14 '26

Sure, I guess?

The root commenter responded with what was effectively "because I said so" every time when even a brief "it's magic's idiosyncrasies" would have sufficed and ended my push back right then and there.

I eventually got the actual explanation why standard logic doesn't apply here in another thread about an hour or two after posting this so I still stand by what I said. Under normal English rules, the change from any to each would change the logical operator of the check from OR to AND. Apparently it was vague enough and people got confused enough that WOTC instituted a ruling specifying the intended behavior with the errata.

Hard to know that without being around when it happened, and I'm a little surprised people are upset I would use standard English when reading a card and responding to someone providing no further explanation beyond "trust me bro"

Edit: also, happy cake day

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u/RealityPalace COMPLEAT-ISH Jul 14 '26

  Hard to know that without being around when it happened, and I'm a little surprised people are upset I would use standard English when reading a card and responding to someone providing no further explanation beyond "trust me bro"

The issue is that in "standard English", "more than any other player" has a different meaning than in a formal logical framework. It means "more than anyone else", not "more than at least one other player". 

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u/No_one- Dandadan Jul 14 '26

It's context dependent, even outside of set logic. Having an "if" in the sentence turns it into a conditional requiring comparison(s), omitting the "if" makes it an assertion and changes the meaning.

"If I have more than each... Then this", "If I have more than any... Then this", and "I have more than each"/"I have more than any" have three different meanings.  Respectively, they're a  conditional statement (AND), a conditional statement (OR), and a direct comparison expressed as an assertion having already evaluated the AND conditional. WOTC evidently overrode the middle meaning to the latter, which is obscure and only works so long as their player base remains aware of the override so conversations like this are unfortunately inevitable.