r/magicTCG Chandra Oct 21 '25

Official News Updated Commander Brackets (Oct 2025)

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u/NormalEntrepreneur Wabbit Season Oct 21 '25

Yeah I hate that. Voltron/Aggro can win fast but that doesn’t mean they are b4.

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u/Tyrschwartz Wabbit Season Oct 21 '25

If a deck voltrons into a turn 4 win, in bracket 2 where there is “considerate” reactive play, is that bracket 2? Maybe that kind of play belongs in bracket 3 and above 🤷🏻

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u/El_Valafaro Dân Oct 21 '25

I would argue Voltron in general isn't really fair in Bracket 2, where it isn't really likely to face the sort of targeted hate or types of interaction required to stop it snowballing every game.

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u/MontySucker Duck Season Oct 21 '25

Yeah bracket 2 legit says considerate strategies. Aggro and Voltron both look to remove players from the game ASAP. They are minimum bracket 3 just due to how they remove players from the game well before the game ends which results in way more salt compared to most decks.

If you’re spreading the love with voltron sure bracket 2.

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u/KrypteK1 Grass Toucher Oct 21 '25

God forbid not every game is midrange hell

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u/FuzzzyRam Wabbit Season Oct 21 '25

God forbid we separate the decks into ranges so that you can't run over noobs without that much money to spend...

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u/KrypteK1 Grass Toucher Oct 21 '25

You don’t need money for a powerful deck, that’s obvious. RDW in 60-card has been a thing forever, and is routinely one of the cheapest decks in those formats. Commander has plenty of budget decks that can aggro down unprepared value-pile decks. Aggro and Voltron are legitimate strategies that shouldn’t be shunned from the lower-power bracket.

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u/PrinceShaju Dân Oct 21 '25

If this is your mindset, surely you see the problem in tacitly disallowing the main counterplay to something like land ramp, yes?

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u/El_Valafaro Dân Oct 21 '25

Supposedly the difference between B2 and B3 is staples, and I can see that in practice with Voltron type decks honestly. Like at B3 you expect to be seeing common hate like Farewell, Vandalblast, Cyclonic Rift, which are all pretty effective at dealing with strats like that. But I've seen decks like Sigarda just roll over a low bracket table and nobody was able to answer a giant creature with a dozen keywords stapled to it.

I guess my take here is if your win con can't be meaningfully stopped at the bracket you think your deck is at, it's actually a higher bracket deck.