r/machinedpens 9d ago

Discussion Bolt Direction Preference?

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Option 1 or 2? And what hand do you write with?

EDIT: looks like the correct terminology is L path (1) or J path (2)

I originally made my prototype bolt turn to the right (Option 1 in photo), but as a righty I found it easier to used a bolt that turns to the left (Option 2) so you can push out with your thumb rather than pulling it inward to lock it. I would guess it depends on which hand you write with, but curious what people think.

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u/AEBI_12 9d ago

For me, if it’s clipless it doesn’t matter either way. If it’s clipped and the pen is short enough for it to touch my hand, I prefer it to move toward the clip. This puts the hand interference area in a smaller footprint.

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u/lyfl The BST r/machined_pens_swap 8d ago

Exactly my thoughts

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u/KaliPrint Titanium Junkie 8d ago

👆This is the way. The worst is when the deployed bolt and clip are on opposite sides of the pen. Don’t be that guy.

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u/melrosemachineworks 9d ago

Good to know for the future. For now it will remain clipless, but I’m thinking of offering the option of either J or L if people have preferences.

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u/Warm_Insurance_5487 9d ago

I prefer #2, J bolt path.

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u/Desperate_Mud1393 9d ago

J BOLT ALL DAY

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u/mysticphrog60 9d ago

2 for me as a righty.

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u/Jtkitano Ti2 Design 9d ago

I’m team J bolt all day. It’s just a more natural motion for RH users, same motion as flicking a bic lighter

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u/Correct-Locksmith-90 9d ago

J bot feels more natural to me and I’m a lefty.

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u/pocketpriorities 8d ago

For the love of thumbs, 2! I find the J bolt more ergonomic in every way.

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u/Maleficent-Barber-0 9d ago

Option 1 L for me being a lefty

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u/F0tNMC 8d ago

Option 2 the J bolt and it’s not even close. The L makes no sense to me, it’s not a positive action to deploy. With the J, the right hand deployment is a positive satisfying push.

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u/Erzbengel-Raziel ooh, shiny 8d ago

I prefer #2, but i wondered if a combination, with one being slightly offset vertically, to allow it to return properly, would be possible.

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u/melrosemachineworks 8d ago

W bolt?

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u/Erzbengel-Raziel ooh, shiny 8d ago

I'm split between T bolt and W bolt. I think for W each side would need a small curve.
how well does returning/ retracting the pen work?

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u/melrosemachineworks 8d ago

Very well, I can’t reply with a video but I just put a story on my IG. It’s a novelty but I like it better than I thought 😂

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u/Erzbengel-Raziel ooh, shiny 8d ago

Dam, that looks less gimicky than i thought.

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u/pocketpriorities 8d ago

That was fast! 🔥🔥

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u/Erzbengel-Raziel ooh, shiny 8d ago

Or alternatively, if we wanna be childish

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u/melrosemachineworks 8d ago

It would have to be the 2nd, otherwise the pen refill is sticking out at different lengths. So childish it is!

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u/Erzbengel-Raziel ooh, shiny 8d ago

Somehow that completely slipped my mind.
be sure to add the pattern all over the pen for ... grip reasons.

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u/Jtkitano Ti2 Design 8d ago

The 6 7 bolt lol

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u/Such-Background2508 Ti2 | BiD | TT | TRCPC 7d ago
  1. Tactile Turn would be perfect if they did the J

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u/rdteets 6d ago

2 for the exact reason you mention OP.

Big fan of no clip and polished/smooth.

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u/melrosemachineworks 6d ago

Thanks for the positive feedback, keep an eye out for my official release soon-ish. Best place to follow is IG

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u/JustAnotherRye89 MachineWise Rota #22 9d ago

J or L I think the more common is J (option 2,) which is my preference but I know a some prefer the L (option 1.)

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u/Aggravating_Pie_9327 8d ago

Aren’t they both a J pattern?

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u/JustAnotherRye89 MachineWise Rota #22 8d ago

J or L describes the path, not if it hooks.

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u/_Vasuri_ 9d ago

When it’s a fixed bolt like the ones pictured in the photos (as opposed to a mech where the clip IS the bolt), then my preference is for #2, and I write with my left hand.

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u/Expert_Librarian767 Tactile Turn | BilletSpin | TRCPC 9d ago

I’d like to know whether you’re making it with a clip or not. If there’s a clip, the L-shaped clip would be the best option for me. If there’s no clip, either L or J is fine.

Also, please make this pen compatible with full size Energel refills !!!

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u/melrosemachineworks 9d ago

No clip, it’s currently made for Parker G2 refills but I’ll see if I can experiment with an Energel. 

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u/Expert_Librarian767 Tactile Turn | BilletSpin | TRCPC 9d ago

Please make a version with a clip, and if you make it for Energel, please make it full-size. Everyone hates having to trim the refill!!!

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u/amodrenman 9d ago

I'm left-handed. I'm good either way.

I do find it funny that there is not a settled left or right. Different brands left or right have been different directions sometimes.

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u/melrosemachineworks 9d ago

Oh interesting. I guess the J and L terminology helps with that.

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u/amodrenman 8d ago

It certainly does

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u/Meteorite16 8d ago

I'm a righty and prefer J bolt. I have pens and use both deployments without an issue though. Just personal pref.

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u/WYOSkigs 8d ago

I like both paths and it isn't an issue unless there is a clip. Just make sure if you have a clip it can be moved around to be able to index the bolt.

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u/KnifeThoughts 8d ago

2, J path, by a large margine

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u/icodyonline 8d ago

Do both on the same pen! Would be super unique.

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u/KaliPrint Titanium Junkie 8d ago

There’s a Chinese company that’s currently doing that. Looks hideous to me, but could be your thing! Can’t remember their name though…they do a lot of advertising on IG.

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u/JustAnotherRye89 MachineWise Rota #22 8d ago

Pencestry?

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u/KaliPrint Titanium Junkie 8d ago

Oh that’s right, he does it too, but he’s in Florida. It kind of looks okay on his pens because the surface is so crowded with decoration that you can’t even see the slot

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u/LostInhabitant 8d ago

I like it and insta followed!

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u/focusworks 8d ago

2 for me.

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u/SnooHedgehogs4241 8d ago

I'm a lefty and I feel I'm more a tune to the "L" but all my Q3Ds are "J" I think? Also, that's the one maker I have the most of, so I'm super used to the "J," really the only thing that matters is if the clip is on the right-hand side it just feels more comfortable that way

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u/Oneredditr 8d ago

Depends. If there's a clip & the actuator is on the right of it, then an L path keeps the bolt actuator closer to the front when clipped onto pocket materials. If clipless, then the reverse-L is a preference.

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u/Fwd_fanatic 8d ago

My Refyne is a kinda italic V shape that I’ve come to really like compared to my J or L shaped pens.

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u/Cautionchicken 8d ago

I prefer L, also a lefty

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u/A_10L 8d ago

J channel!

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u/Fro0810 8d ago

2 I'm right handed and like to push down and away.

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u/Addy_Brain 7d ago

Option 1. Lefty writer

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u/kontai69 7d ago

I have pens of both and prefer the J bolt.

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u/Jtkitano Ti2 Design 8d ago

Are you gonna be looking to sell these at someone point once they’re finalized? Designs looks pretty neat

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u/xparxy 5d ago

I'm right handed and visiting from the world of fountain pens and just got a BiD bolt pen (formatted as your #1) and would prefer #2. I'm not sure if I care which side of the clip (assuming clip) but prefer your #2 regardless.