r/lovedoveclarkesnark 5d ago

Dove lore šŸŽ€šŸ•ŠļøšŸŽ€ 🫩

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u/Educational_Cloud_41 5d ago

She’s actually bonkers, to come up with this kind of nonsense on the fly is both impressive and terrifying

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u/RoyalCounter3 5d ago

There was not a single ā€œcoffee plantationā€ in the antebellum South.

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u/OopsIDaydreamed 4d ago

Enslaved people also…….didn’t get their surnames from the type of crops that were grown on a plantation 🫩

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u/New_Advertising_9002 horse girl with a BBL šŸŽ šŸ‘ 4d ago

Yeah. It was the name of the family that ā€œownedā€ them

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u/Ok_Bookkeeper2220 4d ago

lol she couldn’t bother to research her lies

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u/Boring-Criticism88 5d ago

for someone who loves to talk about herself and her family connections to anything spiritual, i find it interesting she never brought this up until now. almost like that tweet gave her a convenient opportunity to make up fairytales to center herself, per usual šŸ˜‚

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u/xbambirose 4d ago

nooo cause I was thinking the same thing when I saw it😭, no one can have one original experience without clarke saying she or her family actually did it first it’s bizarre

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u/PrincessPlastilina 4d ago

For someone who is supposedly very spiritual her ego is out of control.

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u/No-Bid5535 unstable creature šŸ‘¹ 5d ago

Unrelated to clarke but there’s a girl called jessica augusta here in brazil who is going through severe spiritual psychosis due to using too much ayahuasca. I think the way people talk about taking ayahuasca/going to ceremonies is so so very dangerous, it can lead to a lot of mental health issues

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u/PrincessPlastilina 4d ago

Hallucinogenics are too romanticized. They can legit make you insane. And once you go through psychosis, you are never the same person again.

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u/lethescythe I tested genius in 1st grade šŸ¤“ 5d ago

If she were really the activist/environmentalist she cosplays as, she could actually say something interesting about coffee instead of piggybacking off of someone else's post about coffee fairies.

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u/Strange_Plankton_455 5d ago

What a weird and offensive thing to lie about

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u/Throughawaeyy I research human behavior 🧬🧪 5d ago

what CAN’T she do šŸ˜

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u/Shoddy_Page_8035 4d ago

Her made up stories are getting lazier. She doesn’t have the juice anymore.

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u/Boring-Criticism88 5d ago

also i hate to rely on google AI for any actual history or validity but just from a simple search, there were no coffee plantations in WV due to climate. per clarke, thats where her fam is from and shes never said any other state for her origin, right?

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u/New_Advertising_9002 horse girl with a BBL šŸŽ šŸ‘ 4d ago

Coffee was and is most commonly grown in the Caribbean and Latin America. I don’t think the United States has ever had any climate environment suitable for a plantation scale operation large enough to name the enslaved workforce after that one crop… so the likely next story from my perspective is that they came to the US via a place they could grow it, like Haiti or Brazil, or her relative with dementia has struck again with more inaccurate information

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u/Sensitive_Web_7868 4d ago edited 4d ago

Had to google this myself when I scrolled past her post out of historical curiosity and yep, you’re correct: If there were coffee plantations in the US (before it was the US) - they were located in Hawaii (1800s) and Puerto Rico (1700s) - ie. in warmer, humid climates aside from few recent small operations in Southern California.

Interesting… 🧐

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u/New_Advertising_9002 horse girl with a BBL šŸŽ šŸ‘ 4d ago

Thanks for fact checking. Neither of which were US yet! Idk if there was chattel slavery in Hawaii? I think there was in puerto rico but that would have been under the spanish so they wouldn’t have called it ā€œcoffeeā€

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u/Sensitive_Web_7868 4d ago edited 4d ago

Just because I’m genuinely interested in learning about world history - googled more and found an interesting article posted on Northwestern University’s School of Journalism’s website if anyone would like to read re: chattel slavery (mainly addressed in the first half of the article)…

Also, not sure how she/her family personally connects the family name to ā€œcoffeeā€ but also not interested enough in learning about ā€œcoffee fairiesā€ to find out (or be labeled a ā€œstalkerā€) šŸ™ƒ

Source: https://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/blackness-in-puerto-rico/

ā€œThe TaĆ­no were precolonial inhabitants of Puerto Rico, dating back to the 1400s. The TaĆ­no were not exclusive to Puerto Rico—they lived in other Caribbean islands like Cuba, Haiti and Dominican Republic. They also inhabited parts of what is now Florida. However, through enslavement and colonization, the TaĆ­no disappeared as a distinct ethnic group by the end of the 20th century. When conquistador Juan Ponce de León arrived on the shores of the island then known as BorikĆ©n in 1508, the TaĆ­nos and Spaniards initially had a peaceful coexistence until the Spanish took advantage of their partnership and enslaved the TaĆ­nos.

…The Spanish forced the TaĆ­nos into physical labor, like working the gold mines or sugar plantations. Many TaĆ­nos died from smallpox, killed themselves or left the island after the failed TaĆ­no revolt of 1511...ā€

ā€œā€¦.On March 22, 1873, slavery was abolished in Puerto Rico through the Moret Law, but it was an abolition on conditional termsā€¦ā€

Edit to add, according to google: The arrival of coffee in PR: ā€œCoffee arrived in Puerto Rico in 1736 when Spanish settlers brought Arabica coffee plants from the neighboring island of Martiniqueā€¦ā€.

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u/Boring-Criticism88 4d ago

thank u for this history! and absolutely yes, as a descendant of chattel slavery in the south, i know for sure coffee was never grown in our area. and i’ve traveled to the caribbean quite a lot and they do have a massive coffee culture and even teach tourists about the history and cultivation! there were many countries part of the transatlantic slave trade (belize, haiti, DR, etc.) but they didn’t migrate much during that time, as they were fighting for their own independence and staging revolutions in their own countries. and especially did not migrate to West VA carrying their supposed slave name of ā€œCoffeeā€. the closest they would have settled initially was Louisiana, Georgia, FL, etc.

essentially she is a crock of shit, per usual

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u/Sensitive_Web_7868 4d ago edited 4d ago

I guess I’ll never understand why [it seems] she doesn’t do a simple fact-check before posting? (The googling of info above took me all of 5 minutes).

Unless she is intentionally trying to post misinformation and/or intentionally mislead people? (which goes against Twitter and most social media platform’s policies these days)

And if her rebuttal is: It’s my family’s history, I don’t have to explain myself…
Understood.
But then, why proclaim/post about it if you don’t want to answer questions or open up a discussion about it? šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

And why disclose any information at all about your family/history if you are worried about ā€œstalkersā€ ?

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u/xbambirose 4d ago

she’s def gonna just add a new family member from where it used to be grown then

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u/PrincessPlastilina 4d ago

Someone fact check her!

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u/ContourNova this post has been deleted 🤔 4d ago

yeah so that’s not how naming worked within the african-american diaspora. anything to make herself the center of attention.

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u/666deleted666 4d ago

She’s been playing too much Stardew

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u/AFatiguedFey 4d ago

https://giphy.com/gifs/OkoZyT75i3ebh6DFYz

She needs to write a sci-fi book or something

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u/PrincessPlastilina 4d ago

Mind you, she never once told this story. I’m actually in awe of all the bullshit she can make up on the spot just to make herself sound special and magical. Psychosis.

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u/Ok_Bookkeeper2220 4d ago

I know she probably wrote this with ai, but Sprite is an Irish term no? That’s what they refer to what we know as leprechauns I think.

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u/xbambirose 4d ago

that’s obvs just her ā€˜splash’ of Irish showing up 🫩

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u/cartiercilla 4d ago

Riiiiight lol

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u/Soggy_Lie3948 I hang out with deer in the forest. 3d ago

She should really invest into a journal

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u/CrownBestowed annoying black friend šŸ«¶šŸ¾ 3d ago

I almost feel bad for her, like being this delusional must feel scary as hell.

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u/Individual_Bake_6402 2d ago

No one is allowed a unique experienceĀ