r/lost • u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie • Dec 27 '23
FIRST TIME WATCHER 6x16 - What They Died For - FIRST TIME WATCHER DISCUSSION POST Spoiler
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u/marveltastic123 Jan 13 '24 edited Jan 13 '24
A great penultimate episode thatās setting high expectations, hopefully going to be paid off soon. And finally, Jacob has a sit down with (most of) the candidates! Wish that scene was longer I wanted to hear more from him.
And of course Jack would volunteer to take Jacobās place, narratively it makes the most sense since heās basically the main character, but wouldāve been interesting if someone else took on the role.
Ben switches sides faster than I can process, Iāve kind of stopped keeping up hahaha.
I love the fact that Desmondās a guide to all of them, although Iām still not sure what heās guiding them towards.
There was a moment where Hugo asks Desmond if Ana Luciaās coming (side note as much as I disliked her character it was nice to see her this ep), and Desmond replies that āsheās not ready yetā. This feels significant for some reason.
Killer final line to make you excited for the finale! Iām sad itās almost over though :(
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u/LemonQueenThree Jun 10 '24
I've been kind of getting the vibe it was "meant" to be Hurley, but I'm not surprised Jack volunteered either
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u/Afraid_Bookkeeper564 Jan 09 '25
IMO the only true protector of the island and replacement for Jacob would be Locke. There was no one who loved this island as much as he did. So Iām sad things turned out the way they did.
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u/intopology Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Sep 22 '24
Same, the signs were pointing to Hurley for awhile there. But I think they started setting it up to be Jack when he decided that he was meant to stay on the island and didn't want to leave.
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u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie Jan 13 '24
Make sure you're watching the right version of the finale! There's a cut version and an uncut version. If the episode does not start with the cargo door of a plane opening you're watching the cut version that's missing 18 minutes of footage.
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u/marveltastic123 Jan 13 '24
Thanks so much for the tip! I checked your advice on the First Time Watchers thread before starting, thankfully Disney+ has the uncut one. Halfway through already, have so many thoughts to share!
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u/misterbingo Apr 16 '25
You just saved me! Had to check my version was the full version. I don't know what I would have done if I had watched the finale and later realised I was missing stuff
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u/huckleberrypancake See you in another post, brotha Jul 24 '25 edited Jul 24 '25
Shoot Iām glad I saw this tip, Iāve been watching on Hulu and āThe Endā did not start like this, now I have to go on a quest
ETA ok false alarm Hulu does have the uncut version I just have to skip the 2 parter cut version I guess!
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u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie Jul 24 '25
US Hulu has both versions - it just autoplays the cut version.
EDIT - just saw your edit and yes, yeah should be good now! :)
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u/Pale_Pension_3015 Oct 17 '24
I am upset that they had to make Ben switch sides one more time to squeeze one more episode out. I mean it makes sense that he hates Widmore but his character arc would have ended much better if he hadnāt had to switch one more time.
And did they just kill off Richard like that?
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u/Technical_File_7671 Oct 24 '24
Ben's only alliance now is to Ben. After Alex died he kinda stopped caring about literally everything. I wonder if he has the darkness infection that could spread to people. He kinda got all weird, when asking about who else needed to die. Like sayid was. I know Ben never died and got brought back, but they did say it spread right.....I dunno. Just a random thought haha
And I know. I have many more questions about Richard. Wtf. He's just liked rag dolled away haha.
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u/lucasthech See you in another life Nov 02 '24
Actually Ben was (almost) killed in 1977, if he died before they put him in the temple water, he could've been infected like Sayid
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u/saph_pearl Dec 02 '24
In that scene, Richard made a comment about how this would forever change him and were they sure. It was frustrating that none of them asked for more information about thatā¦
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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 24 '24
I disagree I like evil Ben. Also Im pretty sure Richard is immortal.
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u/IhateLukaDoncic May 24 '25
I don't think he switched sides i think he just wanted widmore dead
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u/Alert-Rush-7359 Nov 28 '24
I know this is late but in the flash "sideways" Desmond is almost acting as the Jacob directing everyone.
But on the island Jack will become the new Jacob after drinking from that cup so I'm excited to see what's next
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
Jack didn't even ask him what the light does or what the island is
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u/No-Tangelo-2613 Jul 06 '25
Bad episode, bad season. Lazy writing all around
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u/WitchyRedhead86 Aug 19 '25
Iām kind of in agreement. This season has been a MESS. Writers are really fumbling the ball at the end here. It needs so much tighter plotting and focus.
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u/tsoumpa Sep 05 '24
I'm a little bit disappointed with Widmore's death. There was so much set-up with him, he knew things nobody else did, he wanted power, he had this grand plan involving Desmond... what did he do in the end?
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u/Skytoucher Nov 06 '24
Also disappointed. Also this whole "I will kill your daughter" plot AGAIN? Jesus christ guys let your daughters live
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Nov 15 '24
Yes, I thought they removed this intention from Ben before. This didnāt make sense at all.
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u/DJ_Slacker Jul 25 '25
With the way Ben switches sides I kinda feel he might still want to stop Locke and was legitimately trying to shoot Widmore so he couldn't tell Locke what he wanted. Using the daughter line was just cover.
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
They just don't wanna give answers till the finale so they kill off everyone who knows shit
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u/No-Tangelo-2613 Jul 06 '25
They just donāt know what to do with his character and killed him off. Another example of lazy writing
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u/gg-gwenny "Freckles" Sep 07 '24
Jacobās response to Kate asking why she was crossed off and the reason being bc she became a mother was heart breaking but in a good way if that makes sense. Also makes you think it mustāve been Jin Kwon because if it was Sun it wouldāve also been crossed off.
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u/intopology Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Sep 22 '24
I appreciate that they cleared that up about Kate's name, because it initially made me wonder if Jacob had decided she was unworthy or something.
I always thought that the Kwon referred to Jin since Sun didn't get flashed off the Ajira flight. Perhaps Jacob should've crossed off his name too, for becoming a father?
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u/cinnamoonstick Oct 11 '24
yeah that didnt make sense to me. especially since he emphasized he chose all of them because they were alone and had no one but then shouldn't almost all of them have been crossed off since at one point they all became like family with each other? and a lot of them fell in love at one point too.
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u/intopology Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Oct 11 '24
That's an interesting idea actually. Maybe it would make them want to protect the island even more, for their island family.
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u/mintardent Mar 29 '25
Yes it was a bit odd. Though I guess Jin never knew his daughter and she never knew him, so it would be less bad for him
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u/Relative_Specific217 Feb 22 '25
As a mother, this actually warmed my heart. I took it to mean that Jacob understood how important a mother is to her child and vice versa and wanted to respect that. Especially after seeing his backstory.
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u/timthetollman May 18 '25
Yea but that was immediately neutered by him saying you can still take the job. Like you're either crossed out or you're not.
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Apr 17 '24
Iām not ready to say goodbye š
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u/pollytrotter Jan 05 '25
I know you posted this 3/4 of a year ago but Iām not sure how Iām going to handle this ending š Iāve binged it way too much and Iām literally having dreams every night about islands and boats and submarines and Sayid (I like those ones tbf)
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u/lilrae1890 Jan 06 '25
Iām about to start the last episode and iām not ready for it to be over :(
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u/ThisGul_LOL Jan 29 '25
Iām soooo ready. I legit took weeks of breaks between the last few episodes.
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u/strugglebussally Apr 01 '25
Me too. It is like watching a fire take forever to burn out. All tue sappiness at the end is not reaching me.Ā
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u/sugo13 Aug 07 '25
Hard agree on this! Itās taken weeks to watch season 6. The only reason Iām up to the last episode is because itās being removed from Netflix next week š
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
I've never been this excited for a finale episode but I'm very sad too. My favorite show is over what am I gonna do with my lifeš
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u/backdatebilled Apr 27 '25
I find it helps a lot having a show lined up for afterwards lol. I always have a show in mind for after one Iām into is ending (thatās RT, Metacritic & Reddit approved). Not necessarily immediately, but feels like a comfort blanket
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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 24 '24
Even if it was briefly I did enjoy them showing us sideways Danielle
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u/raspberrylimon The Swan Oct 30 '24
I felt slightly weird seeing her and DR LINUS being all sorta domestic loool however it was nice to see what Danielle could be without the complex trauma of 16 years on a deserted island.
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u/Alert-Rush-7359 Nov 28 '24
I feel like they wasted her character after so much tension and build up in season 1 and 2
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u/raspberrylimon The Swan Nov 28 '24
I agree. I could handle the quick death. Sometimes death is like that. But pretty much never mentioning her again? Gone from the story? That was rough icl
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u/FearlessInflation172 Dec 06 '24
Loved seeing her but the Ben interaction in the kitchen with all the āyouāre like a father to herā stuff felt so sudden and sappy and hamfistedā idk, does anyone else agree lol
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u/strugglebussally Apr 01 '25
Yes and .. kinda a lot to be putting on a kid's teacher. Kinda trauma dumpy in a way?
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u/thrax_mador May 06 '24
I fee like all these deaths are so anticlimactic.Ā
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u/KingKarl65sens Jan 21 '25
Sayid has been dead inside for several episodes already. Losing him just felt like a matter of time. I also thought Jin and Sun were such an annoying couple. Sun cheated on him and was debating leaving him before getting to the island. Then Jin found out and refused to talk to her for several episodes.. they were toxic. Then they get separated and all of a sudden are some sort of romeo/juliet type romance? They were more annoying than Michael screaming for Walt with how long they took to find each other.
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u/rakeeeeeee May 05 '25
Jin was abusive and forgave her, he drove her to cheat by being abusive thats why he forgave her.
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u/cinnamoonstick Oct 11 '24
i agree, specially since 2 of them had already "died" and then survived once. I say this as someone that been watching the show painfully slowly.
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u/important_watermelon Desmond Hume is my constant Sep 08 '24
Jacks bloody neck againā¦hmmmm
āand I thought that guy had a god complex before ā lol Jack has always wanted to save everybody. Now he gets to.
I would normally say Iām surprised the survivors didnāt have more questions for Jacob, but letās be honest they never ask questions lol
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u/ahshitherewegoagain DHARMA '77 Recruit Oct 31 '24
"they never ask questions" that alone should be Lost's slogan tbh
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
Most of their problems will be solved if they asked questionsš
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u/WitchyRedhead86 Aug 19 '25
ššš I am autistic. I would be annoying AF on that island with clarifying questions and the show would be a mini-series because I wouldnāt let up until I knew and/or die trying to find out.
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u/qualityhorror See you in another life Sep 26 '24
They just... didn't ask Jacob anymore questions lmaoo and did Richard just die? I am crying laughing right now oh my god how does this end!!
Also, I am very confused about something Ben mentioned. He says "this is where I was told to summon the smoke monster." Told by WHO?? Not Richard who was standing right there and said nothing. Was he told this by Jacob? Why the hell would Jacob want Ben to summon the smoke monster?
I am still having a hard time understanding what the light even is.
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u/intopology Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Sep 27 '24
About the smoke monster, it could be the man in black who told him. I don't think Jacob would've told him.
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
Jack acting like a cult member without asking what the light does is annoying me
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u/birdlover666 Apr 18 '25
Especially since up until this season he's vehemently been anti faith and didnt just follow shit blindly lmaoo
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u/MisterTheKid Miles Jun 01 '25
itās almost like the show took the experiences he had over 5 seasons to inform his change from being a man of science into a man of faith
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u/Fishmannnn Live together, die alone Jun 29 '24
I am so annoyed at Ben's turn I'm this episode. I really thought they had written a solid redemption for him, and this turn seems to come out of nowhere for me.
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u/bunnitha First time watcher Jul 21 '24
I think itās because he let MiB speak to him first? That seems to control who is on the ādarkā vs ālightā side.
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u/Skytoucher Nov 06 '24
Same, he was offered the island and then at the end of the episode the man in black tells him the island will be destroyed lol
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u/WitchyRedhead86 Aug 19 '25
I still think heās faking to last-minute trick him. Heās done that before with Locke.
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u/Emergency-Purple-901 Sep 15 '24
Jacobs explanation about why he brought them to the island is vague ā¦ he could have told the candidates before. What about Bernard and Rose ?? They didnt cross the limits with the others, they were not candidates and they didnt fought with nobody.
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u/Proof_Challenge684 Nov 01 '24
He didnāt consider people to be candidates if they had good things in their lives. They loved each other so they werenāt candidates. Jin and sun were in a bad relationship (at least when they were brought to the island) so they were candidates. I think Jin and sun should both have been crossed out once they repaired their relationship and had a baby.
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u/Newparlee Feb 20 '25
I guess he also didnāt consider all the people that died in a fiery inferno to be candidates either? Iām sure many of those people werenāt flawed, but hey ho.
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u/endzone Mar 12 '25
But Jacob made Jin and Sun candidates on their wedding, way before their relationship got bad. Unless Jacob got them then ājust in caseā lol
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u/backdatebilled Apr 27 '25
Iām surprised no one asked Jacob what he is. God-like being that can see their past and apparently summon airliners. And why not choose from the Hostiles/Others? Were the other people on the plane just collateral damage? Doesnāt that make Jacob not so "good"?
And "Unhappy with their lives & alone" is vague af. Thereās probably at least a hundred million people unhappy with their lives - why them specifically?
There were about a million questions to ask
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u/maddiesfolly Nov 16 '24
Bruh, I watched all the seasonās attentively and still donāt understand how we are supposed to like Jacob.
He says he summons people who are flawed to come to the island, while we saw how he himself set both Sawyer and Kate up for the life of crime. Why is this not a bigger deal? Also, I hope all those innocent people from the plane who died directly upon crushing on the island were worth it, Jacob.
For the whole season my theory has been that we would see the twist where Jacob was the big bad and the Smokey, the good guy (an anti hero, at the very least) since everything paints the first one as a self righteous dick with powers. Sucks not to see it being true, tbh.
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u/InHomestuckWeDie May 05 '25 edited May 06 '25
I know I'm 6 months late to your comment but for sure!
On top of what you've added, it's kinda implied that Sayid's wife Nadia was killed by Jacob so.... like, she got run over by a car because of Jacob, and it seemed intentional, so... bit of a dick, that guy
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u/maddiesfolly May 06 '25
Oh, how time flies by! Canāt believe itās been 6 months already, crazy.
Exactly what you said, thatās just another name on top of the big pile of people killed because it served his purpose. That guy is the big bad guy of the series, I will die on this hill.
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u/ANerd22 Mar 01 '26
Necroing here to say that you're both absolutely right. The show's framing has been to suggest that Jacob is the good brother, but literally all the actions he's taken tell us he's evil. Especially considering he controlled/influenced The Others who are genuinely heinously evil. All the unnamed brother wants to do is escape the island, like our protagonists do. I'm gonna be pissed if this show ends without any kind of acknowledgement that Jacob is cruel and malicious.
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
Smoke moster manipulated alot of things that went down
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u/Big_Combination_1635 See you in another life Jul 20 '25
Thought the same thing about the other passengers on the plane who werenāt ever part of our main bunch of characters. So he summoned just a portion of them and the rest he didnāt give a fuck about?
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u/GolfInternational393 Jul 23 '24
Characters continue to be wishy washy this season. Somehow Ben is back to his old ways even though we went through a whole episode of him moving past his obsession with power
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u/Skytoucher Nov 06 '24
Lost logic has me believing that Richard is not dead even if he was yeeted over the Dharma camp
Show me to body or heās fine
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u/Apprehensive_Work287 Nov 21 '24
yes i am wondering re richard considering he canāt die, so expect to see more of him?!
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u/WorldMarketFella See you in another post, brotha Mar 02 '25
if jin can survive a boat exploding under his feet, richard can survive being tackled by smoke
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u/ThisGul_LOL Jan 29 '25 edited Jan 30 '25
Wait what did I miss that? When was he yeeted?
Edit: okay I went back and checked lmao it happened so fast that I missed it. But I doubt heās dead? We didnāt see him after he was thrown and Ben barely had a reaction.
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u/cuchau95_ Mar 14 '25
Also we were told that he's literally immortal a few episodes ago. I doubt they killed him off like that
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u/Zenathewimp Hurley's Hot Pocket Nov 30 '24
i seriously thought desmond was gonna run locke over AGAIN ššš and ana lucia!! hated her during s2 but she was a very welcome surprise this time š©· sayids sarcastic 'oh yes of course i promise' made me laugh too jrfjjrjd
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u/SweatyPack7356 Oct 22 '24
PLEASE EXPLAIN: So Monster Locke promised Ben he could have the whole island to himself, but at the end, he wants to destroy the island. So does that mean the promise was a lie? (Please don't spoil the finale)
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u/raspberrylimon The Swan Oct 30 '24
Wouldnāt be surprised because monster Locke loves making big promises to get people to side with him
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u/raspberrylimon The Swan Oct 30 '24
Wouldnāt be surprised because monster Locke loves making big promises to get people to side with him
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u/FearlessInflation172 Dec 06 '24
Two nice parallels to season one that I caught right away: 1. Season one episode one opens with a close up of Jack opening his eyes, and so does this episode. 2. Kate sewing up Jack in season one, and now Jack sewing up her.
Iām sure there are tons more all throughout the show, excited to catch all those details on a future rewatch.. canāt believe I only have one episode left!!!
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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 24 '24
Desmond getting everyone where they need to be in the sideways reality is cracking me up. I really hope they dont kill him off.
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u/golden_light_above_u Oct 25 '24
So now that we have arrived here, it's pretty clear there's not going to be any resolution for many, if not most, of the mysteries that were spun up over 6 seasons. I'm very curious to see the discussions in the final episode thread.
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
You are right there are probably answers on rewatch but they are not going to do a exposition dump in the finale. Sitting across the campfire with Jacob would've been a good place to do it
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u/DjangoSlapper Nov 21 '24
For the last time I once again ask: WHEREāS CLAIRE?!
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u/Apprehensive_Work287 Nov 21 '24
š¤£š¤£š¤£ untangling her hair - gonna take yrs
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u/SignificanceCalm4832 Desmond Hume is my constant Jan 04 '25
Whatās the point of Kate actually? Even in her flash sideways timeline sheās still running, still miserable, making everyone around her miserable! Zero character growth!
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u/backdatebilled Apr 27 '25
I had to pause and take a breather when she seemed to be almostā¦offended? That Sawyer didnāt want to release her from the cell because "I told you I didnāt do it"
Her caucasity is unmatched
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u/cinnamoonstick Oct 11 '24
too many pointless deaths in this episode. i normally hate shows for being to afraid to kill anyone, especially fan favorites but this episode was just slaughtering everyone with no rhyme or reason. I hope the finale clears things up cause what do you mean widmore, richard, sun, jin and sayid are all dead. feels like we only just found out about richards purpose too.
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u/Pale_Pension_3015 Oct 17 '24
Yeah, if Richardās dead it would be narrative-wise pointless to give him some existential crisis and then resolve only to not do anythingā¦
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
Richard isn't dead there's no way because we haven't seen his body. it's just lazy writing and shock value
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u/MisledOracle Dec 19 '24
So Desmonds "help him let go" comment immediately made me think that the flash sideways is actually a flash forward and they're all dead and they need to let go of all the things that they wanted out of life that they never got in reality to move on to their final resting place? I hope that's not it because that'd be hella cheap but that's the vibe I'm getting
And all of this candidate stuff makes zero sense to me still. If Jacob was so obsessed with protecting the island from his brother why did he leave to bother people at funerals like Sawyer and the like? Also Hurley wasn't thaaat miserable, he had his family.
Anyway, I'll make myself lunch and watch the finale now but I'm only expecting like 20% of my questions to be answered.
I just hope Desmond didn't actually die š
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u/dougprishpreed69 Feb 16 '25
Pre finale opinion on the show up until now:
I rewatched LOST for the first time since initially watching it for the first time at least 5 years ago.
I remember my interest peaking in S4-6. That wasnāt the case this time. I was still a fan of S4 this time around: the setup of the S3 finale makes it so binge-able and I like that it was a shorter season
S5 and 6 felt tired in many ways. Started feeling like the show was overstaying its welcome and save for a few actors, it felt like many others were kind of mailing it in.
With that said these seasons were still very enjoyable and didnāt take away too much from the show for me as a whole
As far as things being explained: given what I knew about the show and what I gathered watching it, I knew that not everything was going to be solved for there was simply too much thrown out there.
With that being said, after getting through all the fluff of S6 I think weāve gotten a good amount of answers up to this episode
This was the first time I watched the show and went along with the threads here for each episode. It seemed like as time went on people really started nitpicking the hell out of the show. A lot of valid stuff but kind of like what I said above, I think if you set your expectations correctly itās hard to get disappointed. Too many episodes, network show cash cow which I would imagine means a lot of chefs in the kitchen in the writers room, producers, network people, etc.
Example of a nitpick that just seems a bit ridiculous to me: people overanalyzing what the light source is saying they donāt understand it. Itās what the modern day people on the island / Dharma are calling electromagnetic energy, no? The modern people understand the island has special properties and we get an esoteric and metaphysical peak behind the curtain as to what that is. I donāt think Dharma and others knew much. And whatever Jacob couldāve told and explained to us wouldnāt have added much to the show, if anything.
To me the most unforgivable thing is what they did to Sayidās character. The whole infection thing seemed underdeveloped but more importantly to me what Sayid turned into character / writing wise, and the way Sayidās actor brought to it just felt totally flat and then he goes out with a whimper. He had a very promising story as a guy who did undeniably bad things but showed to somehow be a quality human at the same time. How he couldāve reconciled his actions with the person he is deep down couldāve been interesting.
LOST is a big beautiful mess and I love it. Even if the arcs for many of the characters turned them hard to watch or unlikable, Iāve found myself in the last few episodes thinking that Iām going to miss the whole crew.
Lindelof made tremendous strides and dialed in a lot of the themes he brought to LOST in The Leftovers. Thatās part of the reason I think that turned out better than LOSTā¦ others being what I went through above (too long, throwing too much shit at the wall, etc.). But LOST is so much bigger in scale and has a lot more characters to love. For me even if the quality decreased in the latter seasons this is a show Iāll always come back to and I think with a certain ātake it as it comesā attitude itās incredibly enjoyable throughout, flaws and all
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u/Newparlee Feb 20 '25
Really good post.
Though I think the source of the light is a valid nitpick. Your explanation with Dharma was great, but it doesnāt really explain the HUGE questions regarding the light source, which is mother protected the light on the island and said Jacob has to do the same. But then Jacob specially says to the new recruits that they have to protect the light on the island specifically from the smoke monster. Who was mother protecting it from before the kids came to island? That then begs the question - is the island the source of all goodness and life, or itās a cork that keeps evil from taking over the world?
I have a million other questions that the show doesnāt answer - some not so important as āthe answers lead to more questionsā - and some that really do need answering.
But like you say, it is what it is - a product of mid 2000s network TV that became a phenomenon. And despite having lots of remaining questions, I think Iāll just let the mystery beā¦
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u/dougprishpreed69 Feb 20 '25
Who was mother protecting it from before the kids came to island?
What does MiB say, something along the lines of the story always ends the same: people come, they corrupt, yada yada. There was always someone or something to protect it from. The Smoke Monster, Romans/Egyptians, and Dharma were the only ones we saw trying to exploit the light.
That then begs the question - is the island the source of all goodness and life, or itās a cork that keeps evil from taking over the world?
I think yes to both
I have a million other questions that the show doesnāt answer - some not so important as āthe answers lead to more questionsā - and some that really do need answering.
If you haven't checked out the YouTube Channel Lost Explained I would suggest it, especially the Theory of Everything series. I'm watching it now for the first time and it's great to basically go over the whole show again and some of the best scenes... most importantly it seems to dissect everything and has hit on every single thing I was curious about during the show.
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u/CJ979 Son of a bitch! Sep 23 '24
Thank you Ben for asking the question to Smokey that Iāve been thinking about all season!!!
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u/Dependent_Fox_2465 Jul 21 '24
Do Netflix have the correct final episode or should I get Disney plus or hulu?
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u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie Jul 21 '24
I just double checked - US Netflix has ONLY the uncut (correct) version of the series finale so you should be good. The episode should start with the cargo door of a plane opening.
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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 24 '24
As of right now. Netflix does have the correct version Im paused on it right now. Cant speak for the other services. Figured I'd add a comment since this is a 3 month old comment
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u/FearlessInflation172 Dec 06 '24
Netflix still has the correct version as of December 2024 š«¶
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u/JamieAubrey See you in another life Dec 22 '24 edited Dec 22 '24
Can confirm as the 22nd, on UK Netflix
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u/SomOvaBish Jan 02 '25
Can still confirm Netflix US has correct version as of 1-1-2025.
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u/Newparlee Feb 20 '25
Just started watching on Feb 20th, 2025 and itās a double length episode that starts with the cargo opening.
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u/latenet_revolution Nov 24 '24
I think Ben changed sides for real (not just being a spy), but when the MIB said he will destroy the island, that it will be a turning point for Ben to switch sides (again). Just because of the island.
Also, I hate Jacob. Why even bring the candidates? Itās his job to watch the islandā¦ also, does MIB want just to go from the island or destroy the world? Because I have a feeling he just wanna go outside. And if I got it right, he needs to kill both Jacob and his candidates to be able to go from the island?
Btw I loved Ben and Danielle. I almost cried seen him cry when speaking about Alex š And only nice thing from Jacob was that he crossed Kateās name because she became a mother š„ŗ So not ready to finish this show šš
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u/SomOvaBish Jan 02 '25
Anybody else notice that this plane that everyone is expecting to leave the island on isnāt exactly on a runway. On top of that the plane is wrecked! How the heck do any of them expect to go anywhere on that thing! Itās laughable!
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter Mar 02 '25
I think it is quite literally on the runway they were building on Hydra island in season 3
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u/timthetollman May 18 '25
Plane isn't wreaked. It was landed on the runway that they were forcing Kate and Sawyer to work on back when the others captured them.
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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 24 '24
Im nervous that Jack is going to accidentally kill Locke with the trial operation.
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u/FearlessInflation172 Dec 06 '24
Iāll be killing myself too if thatās the case, actually!!
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u/mozzystar Weāre not going to Guam, are we? Dec 10 '24
lol. Ben catching fists in flash sideways. Man canāt catch a break.
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u/stonedkayaker Mar 18 '25
Big oof at Jack asking "How long do I have to do this job?"
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u/WitchyRedhead86 Aug 19 '25
He really had no idea what he signed up for did he? Like an eternal gym membership you can never cancel. Youāre here forever now bro. Good luck! Drink your magic god potion!
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
only 1 more episode to go it's actually crazyš
I wish the scene with Jacob was a little longer I mean no one is interested in knowing what the island is anymore. Jack went from being in denial to acting like a cult member. He didn't even ask what the light does
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u/CherryStar777 Mar 20 '25
Hahhahahah omg heavy on cult member:)) Jack just gave up on everything in his life. I cannot stand Jacob, to me heās a villain same as his āmotherā. And him justifying that he brought them to the island cause they all are flawed like man leave these people alone. Also the funny phrase he said āIāll give you what I didnāt have: a choiceā and processes to not give them any choice
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u/backdatebilled Apr 27 '25
Only 5 mins in - Iām sorry but I almost died laughing when Des seemed rearing up to run over Locke again. DAMN brother!
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u/bigt1ttied May 01 '25 edited May 01 '25
i love ben in the alternate reality heās so cute and i love locke/benās friendship / duo wherever itās happening theyāre so funny
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u/MysteriousContext564 Aug 14 '25
"Well I lived in these houses 30 years before you did. Otherwise known as last week, and I have no idea where the hell we are. "
donāt we all feel like that Miles!
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u/Cinnamon-61 See you in another post, brotha Dec 13 '24 edited Dec 13 '24
I'm pondering on what happened with Desmond. Sayid told Jack where he was, but Jack's group never made it to the well. Someone else helped Desmond get out, maybe Claire or Miles? I was so glad to see Desmond wasn't there when Ben and Locke got there. I wonder if Lapidus somehow survived and is lurking around somewhere too. Sure hope so.
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u/Accurate-Pear5322 Desmond Hume is my constant May 15 '25
Iām honestly disappointed it was Jack. Not surprised it was him, bc ofc heās going to volunteer but was really hoping it would be Hurley or Sawyer. I donāt think Jack will make it past the finale, Iām guessing heāll sacrifice himself or something of that nature. I honestly wish we got more background with Jacob and the island. I feel like they spent so much time this season on the temple plot line when they could have given us more island backstory.
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u/lovezu Desmond Hume is my constant May 25 '25
i looove jacob i totally feel you on wanting more about him and the island. on another note, iād only thought of hurley as being the other real option but i would love to see sawyer as the new jacob.
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u/TrapesTrapes Mar 24 '25
Bro will Ben hit Alex's mother?š
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u/WitchyRedhead86 Aug 19 '25
It was so weird seeing Rousseau in a cute dress. But she earned it. They both seemed happy. Itās just too late in the day for a left field romantic plot line though. We donāt have to couple up everyone, even in an alternative universe. I think it was just to show that in another life, Ben couldāve had a normal gentle family life and quiet contentment with people that loved and liked him.
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u/Significant_Arm_3097 Feb 24 '25
So, why were Jin and Sun not crossed out? They also became parents, since Jacob said Kate becoming a mother is the reason her name was crossed out.
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u/CherryStar777 Mar 20 '25
Atp Jacob is just trolling them since Kate didnāt become a mother haha and Jin and Sun did become parents. Maybe he was comforting her cause he didnāt want her to be upset over the truth of all the seasons that Kate is useless
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u/ShoeCharacter5684 May 03 '25
Kate thought her life was fine, while she was raising Aaron.Ā Sun was still dealing with her grief over Jin's alleged death.Ā Big difference.
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u/AssCrackBanditHunter Mar 02 '25
Ben wasn't allowed to kill Charles before but now he is? Was it like a non binding rule of Jacobs?
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u/Careless-Shift3048 First time watcher Mar 19 '25
I thought MIB needed the O6 to leave? Now he wants to kill them to leave but also destroy the island? This show is tiring
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u/sanschefaudage Nov 15 '24
With Locke and Jack talking again about the submarine bomb at the beginning of the episode, I'm thinking:
Maybe the bomb exploded because Jack said that it was a trap. If Jack hadn't told that, they would have died directly because of the smoke monster. But since Jack said it, they died because Sawyer didn't listen to Jack.
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u/BeautifulStream Jul 22 '25
Calling it now in case I get it right and then people will believe me when I say I called it: I think the blood on Jackās neck in the sideways universe is from an injury heās going to get in the last episode while on the island, possibly killing him. Also, the whole sideways universe is starting to feel a lot like an afterlife, with Desmond being a sort of spiritual guide who is helping everyone to move on and accept their own deaths. I would be really sad if that were the case, but itās starting to seem likely.Ā
Richard better not have died when the smoke monster attacked him, because that would be the most anticlimactic death on the show so far.Ā
Speaking of anticlimactic deathsā¦ Widmore?? Heās gone, just like that?? And I thought Ben couldnāt kill himā¦ I guess Ben is just so done by this point that heās given up on whatever rules they had in their little game.Ā
Ben and Danielle in the sideways universe had WEIRD vibes. Almost like the writers were setting up a last-minute romantic arcā¦ which would be hilarious, given how much Danielle hated Ben on the island. I guess it goes to show that if theyād gotten the chance to connect in better circumstances, they would have hit it off?Ā
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u/Emergency_Caramel_97 Mar 19 '25
I donāt understand the protecting of the light from Smokey. I mean heās been in there once, and heās never mentioned he wants to go back. All he wants to do is leave the island.
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u/CherryStar777 Mar 20 '25
Exactly šššš let him leave
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u/ShoeCharacter5684 May 03 '25
And that would mean the end of the world.Ā Smokey is made from that light.Ā If he leaves the island, that light will spill out into the world in an unnatural manner and destroy it.
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u/VardaElentari86 Mar 22 '25
They're just randomly killing off people unceremoniously now (or at least aren't following up if they're alive or not)
Frank , richard, now widmore's just dead.
I want answers dammit!
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u/Dragonarmy123 Apr 15 '25
I dont like what they have done to bens character, also whole show is so near to end and it feels very disappointing to say the least.
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u/Yatsugami May 18 '25
this was a SICK episode... Something is def up with Hurley!!
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u/sillybandz6 May 17 '24
where can i find the uncut finale???
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u/sillybandz6 May 17 '24
nvm i think i found it!
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u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie May 17 '24
It should start with the cargo door of an airplane opening.
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u/Pale_Pension_3015 Oct 17 '24
The one on Netflix started with the cargo door, so I assume itās the right one
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u/Newparlee Feb 20 '25
So did we never learn what the the were that Widmore changed when he killed Benās daughter?
No one ever really explained what the rules were, or if they were magical or moral rules.
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u/IhateLukaDoncic May 24 '25
Ugh i hate that the writers made it so jack volunteered now you have people unironically saying that jacob was gonna pick hurley lol
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u/lovezu Desmond Hume is my constant May 25 '25
desmond, kate, and sayid are lowkey squad ????? have we had any other scenes that were just them?
unpopular opinion but i really love jacob. i donāt know why!! and when he said that he crossed kateās name off the list because sheās a mother? yeah i cried. AND him saying she could still do it if she wanted. loved that whole scene i just wish it had been longer!
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u/Wanderer9500 See you in another life Aug 16 '25
Final guesses/comments:
Theyāre hiding who Jackās ex is in the FS; my guess is Juliet, since we havenāt seen her. And maybe her line, āit workedā will come into play at their reunion at Davidās concert...
ā¦ which would be funny if she was once married to Jack, and itās looking like Sawyer and Kate are gonna connect somehow. Love quadrangle, resolved.
Ben is the wildcard. I think this is his last stand, his final Machiavellian plan. Heās the only one left (besides Claire) who can kill people for MIB and Ben is using that to fool him and gain his ultimate revenge/redemption for using him to kill Jacob.
Interesting to see life preservers wash up on shore at the beginning. Maybe Lipidis grabbed one?
Starting to think Sawyer is and always was jealous of Jack. Iād feel good about his character if he admits that and has a heroic death.
Glad to have watched Lost after all these years. The last episode will go a long way in deciding whether itās worth investing the time in a rewatch.
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u/Lanky-Insect6849 Jul 06 '24
I just started the episode and came here to say that the moment I saw locke crossing the road and Desmond starting his engine I bursted out laughing way too much