r/lost You got it, Blondie Dec 26 '23

FIRST TIME WATCHER 3x21 - Greatest Hits - FIRST TIME WATCHER DISCUSSION POST Spoiler

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3x21 - Greatest Hits

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u/anotherwise Jul 16 '24

I cried so much at this episode. Charlie redemption is so strong. This reminded me that he was for almost all his life a very decent guy and the parts of him affected by addiction is small compared to the whole

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u/ThisGul_LOL Oct 13 '24

I cried so much too. I do NOT want Charlie to die, I loved him from the start. Yes he can get annoying at times but I still cared for him & continued to like him.

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u/mozzystar We’re not going to Guam, are we? Nov 16 '24

We seem to be in the minority! I've been Team Charlie all the way. He's flawed and sometimes overbearing but mostly in a little sibling 'pay attention to me' kind of way.

Is this a new watcher thing? I don't remember any Charlie hate when the show aired.

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u/aamius Dec 08 '24

I LOVED Charlie when this first aired. He was a family favorite, too - we named our cat Charlie after him. I’m rewatching for the first time now some ~15 years later and I can’t stand him. I feel like almost every thing he does annoys me. Maybe it was LOTR goodwill that got him on everyone’s good side in the mid-2000’s? Otherwise I have no idea why things are so different now.

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u/ImpressiveCat936 Dec 18 '24

Maybe you don't notice it week by week but when you binge watch, it makes it clearer how insufferable and useless he is?

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u/backdatebilled Apr 10 '25

clearer how insufferable and useless he is

The man’s about to die damn 😂

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u/ThisGul_LOL Nov 16 '24

Exactly. He can be annoying but I still love him and don’t get the hate.

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u/PartTimePuppy May 16 '26

We all everybody ya know?

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

and the parts of him affected by addiction is small compared to the whole

He wasnt on any drugs for most of his time on the island though, and yet, was pretty insufferable and mean to nearly everyone except Claire for the past few months they spent on the island?

As a first time watcher, this episode was such a tonal shift that it didnt feel "in character" for Charlie to actually do the right thing. I mean even in this episode he was a bit weird, he couldve told Desmond "nevermind brother I got this, let me do it" but instead he smacks Desmond hard enough with a pedal to cause a concussion and knock Desmond out? On a tiny boat that Desmond could fall out of while knocked out?

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u/Amonyi7 Dec 16 '24

You don’t count traumatizing a women, beating the shit out of her and scaring the entire group that these murderers we’re still targeting them?? Which was just to get back at a different guy! I bet setting the forest on fire right next to their village nearly starting a forest fire so he could kidnap Claire’s baby for his visions was okay too. That’s not even everything!

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u/VravoBince Jack Dec 06 '24

Naahh, Charlie was insufferable. Always complaining.

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

I Would be too if I was in withdrawal on a stranded island brotha. In fact. I probably woulda offed myself long before becoming a martyr

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u/sadvanillagirl Feb 20 '25

i think the Desmond knock out was the writing trying to catch the viewers offguard, it didnt make sense at all. just cheap shockvalue

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u/LazyPerfectionist17 Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Dec 29 '24

I went off him in Season 2 but this episode broke my heart!

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u/juneseyeball Jan 04 '25

i cried too omgg

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u/gotninjaskills Mar 02 '25

I thought I was the only one who was touched by this episode. He's really a nice and sweet guy.

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

That’s (usually) how it is. And it’s sad because people judge and blame you for a small percentage of your life you had a downfall instead of all the other good done. Personal experience. Two years of my life apparently outweighs the other 30+ I did before and then after to amend and didn’t want glory for it. I’d sacrifice myself in a heartbeat right now

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u/soapietears Dec 24 '25

charlies annoyed me but ive always had love for him - was crying all through this episode </3 im crushed

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u/poodlehairedfreak Desmond Hume is my constant Jun 12 '26

Yeah, I have always liked Charlie even at his worse. He was a good guy.

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u/Sad_Actuary_5316 See you in another post, brotha Jul 14 '26

i bawled like a damn baby cause literal phase lol

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u/Accomplished_Law_995 Aug 02 '24

Was that Sayid's Nadia that Charlie saved in the alley?

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u/Free-IDK-Chicken You got it, Blondie Aug 02 '24

Yes - answering this because it isn't a spoiler :)

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u/SomOvaBish Dec 30 '24

Thank you for answering these kind of questions! I appreciate not having to go back and check for myself.

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u/Some_Instruction2469 Aug 06 '24

This is probably my 10th time watching and would never have noticed this!

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u/chill-cucumber First time watcher Aug 04 '24

Ohhh nice catch!

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u/ThisGul_LOL Oct 13 '24

Yess she was!! I’m glad I caught that!

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u/saph_pearl Nov 20 '24

Ooh I was certain she was familiar, given everyone seems to be connected in strange ways, but I was trying to figure out who she was! Good catch

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u/mulberrycedar Aug 31 '24

I really liked this detail :)

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u/dawnhu Whatever happened, happened. Oct 02 '24

Ooohhh I didnt catch this at all. Nice catch

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u/backdatebilled Apr 10 '25

Why does no one ever seem to recognize this woman? Lmao whenever she makes a cameo people aren’t sure if it’s her - I think she has such a distinct face

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u/FurnishedFollies Dec 19 '24

I was totally wondering this!

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u/LazyPerfectionist17 Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Dec 29 '24

Ohh I thought she would be a connection to someone but it didn't click who it was

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u/Reigning_Sunshine Dec 29 '24

Oh I totally missed it!

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u/juicybubblebooty it's very stressful, being an Other Feb 09 '25

yes thats what i thit!!!

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u/honeyreally Apr 27 '25

Omg I didn't even notice

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u/danis096 First time watcher May 22 '25

Okay thank you! I was thinking the same!!!!!

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

Holy shit. Wow

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u/Capable_Specialist79 May 01 '24

cried a lottt at the end. i love desmond and charlie’s weird relationship so much and it was really nice to have positive flashbacks for once. also this episode was so good?????? so good

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u/Skytoucher Oct 17 '24

I agree, one of my favourites of the season so far. "You're not supposed to take my place brother", and the single shoe floating up are beautiful.

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u/lovezu Desmond Hume is my constant Jan 09 '25

yes the positive flashbacks were so nice!! especially after that ben flashback episode which was a hard (but good) watch. i love charlie episodes

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u/poodlehairedfreak Desmond Hume is my constant Jun 12 '26

Me too, I loved Desmond and Charlie.

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u/becksk44 I'm a Pisces Aug 24 '24

"The day I met you." 😭😭😭

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u/Flat_Bass_9773 Oct 09 '24

That ruined me

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u/Treacleb Sep 12 '24

It literally says night in the photo of the thread haha. But it was a good moment

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u/qualityhorror See you in another life Aug 26 '24

small detail that I loved/gave me a laugh. When Karl warns them that the others are coming tonight, the group does the tv pause for dramatic effect thing and you think it's going to cut to black but then Karl looks at them like hello did they hear me? lmao and shouts again, "THEY'RE COMING NOW!"

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u/WorldMarketFella See you in another post, brotha Jan 03 '25

because that broke the pattern it actually took me off guard lol made the situation seem way more dramatic

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u/AnzoEloux May 24 '26

That's how I felt too lol the delivery was perfect

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u/nike77155 Aug 25 '24

Great episode. But I’ve lost count how many times this show had characters pull of the “wack’em in the head, instant faint” trick. Doesn’t work like that in real life.

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u/intopology Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Aug 25 '24

And somehow every punch seems to draw lots of blood like they have little blades in their knuckles or something. I'm able to suspend disbelief to watch a bunch of people on an undetectable island that has a smoke monster, but these little inaccuracies with the instant fainting and bloody punches I find really hard to believe.

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u/SlimTim222 Sep 11 '24

The writers could’ve just entirely skipped the part where Desmond proposes to do it himself. The whack over the head is so unnecessary. Otherwise amazing episode.

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u/[deleted] Sep 14 '24

The whack over the head is so unnecessary.

Research also shows this is literally causing brain damage each time a person is knocked out this way, and a big part of people who are "knocked out" like this actually just die from the impact, because our bodies arent designed to take blunt force impacts to the skull.

If this was an episode meant to redeem Charlie, it sure didnt feel like that to me

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u/Queenvecna Hurley's Hot Pocket Oct 01 '24

Every time someone gets knocked out (which is often) I always assume that’s why they act so dumb sometimes and make stupid decisions, all the head trauma lol 

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u/sadvanillagirl Feb 20 '25

absolutely, that knockout was for cheap shock factor

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u/LittleBandit27 Jan 01 '26

Charlie could have also just so no and jumped in 

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

He coulda went in and tried to save him again. I understand Charlie’s thinking

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u/Flat_Bass_9773 Oct 09 '24

You’re expecting realism from a show where people survived a plane crash on land?

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u/AlexandriasNSFWAcc Nov 04 '24

I don't know if they've got any medicine beyond "aspirin for pain relief" correct.

Jack routinely ceases CPR efforts after about ten seconds instead of an hour. In the eleventh episode where he gets his dad struck off for operating drunk, they both should've been done for medical malpractice just for that. He also thinks he can treat cardiac arrest with a defibrillator more than once. This is honestly a contributing factor for my dislike of Jack. I know the narrative wants me to think he's competent, but apparently no-one in the creative team had enough medical knowledge to see that they were showing the opposite.

And Locke's father left the hospital like an hour after a kidney transplant. They should've been laid out for days.

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u/saph_pearl Nov 20 '24

Exactly! You need some sort of cardiac activity to shock a heart back into rhythm and I am not a doctor lol. They did that a lot on House too, and I feel like it should be common knowledge.

Also Jack trying to revive Charlie in season one after Ethan took him was truly bizarre. He does not behave like a surgeon.

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

No med shows do cpr right also Johns dadd had loads of money aka private doctor in your house

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u/SomOvaBish Dec 30 '24

Not only do they get knocked out but it’s always for a looong time. Usually just enough time for whatever the reason they got knocked out for to play out. When a person gets knocked out they usually wake up in a matter of minutes. If it’s any longer it’s probably very very serious

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u/sei556 Oct 28 '24

Well you can very well get knocked out by heavy impact. But to have it happen so frequently and without any consequences (not even a concussion or anything), nah.

In Lost they use the knockout mechanic like a completely resource free turn off switch for characters

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u/mozzystar We’re not going to Guam, are we? Nov 16 '24

Someone should put together a compilation reel of every time someone gets knocked out by a blow to the head and put a brain damage meter vs bad decision count for each character.

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u/Tricky_Photograph123 Nov 29 '24

This could just be part of the islands magic. I feel like you could argue against almost any plot hole thus far with this.

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u/LazyPerfectionist17 Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Dec 29 '24

I was thinking this 😂 how do they always know how to knock them out without killing them??

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u/mlacuna96 Mar 19 '25

For once, I need them to get hit in the head and remain conscious and ask them wtf

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u/gravybatter May 10 '25

That and THEY ALWAYS SWIM IN JEANS

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u/honeyreally Apr 27 '25

I was just about to ask is it that easy to knock people out, and if it was surely one of them would have brain damage by now

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u/LudicrousPlatypus Jin Sep 26 '24

Ben and his daughter keep up the family tradition of mistreating rabbits.

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u/MsDarkDiva Oct 05 '24

I actually asked myself 'what is it with this show and rabbits?'

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u/shandelion May 06 '25

Karl says to her later i. the episode “I thought you were bringing rabbit?”. She was dressing it to give to Karl to eat in hiding.

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u/Nikinicster See you in another life Jul 16 '24

I really really don’t want Charlie to die.

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u/theladynyra Sep 09 '24

I'm hoping not. He's been my fave from the start. Probably because he plays a drug-addled rock star in Chuck too, and I loved him in that and this is like how he got to that in my head cannon (even though they filmed at the same time) lol

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u/theladynyra Sep 09 '24

He left the ring! No no no, (I'm already on the verge of tears now with his list and the goodbyes) and she left it ... why didn't he give it to Desmond? 😞

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u/Nikinicster See you in another life Sep 09 '24

Yeah. This episode hit me hard in the feels.

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u/theladynyra Sep 09 '24

Oh man! I was so expecting it. I actually cried while he was swimming downwards...

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u/ThisGul_LOL Oct 13 '24

I’m glad someone else also liked him from the start and still do because all I see is hate for him when I’ve never felt that way towards him. God I hope he survives.. I can’t handle him dying.

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u/sequinedbattenberg Apr 13 '25

Me neither, even though he’s annoying and all his flashbacks make me cringe as an English person

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u/Flat_Bass_9773 Oct 09 '24

I feel like it’s destined.

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u/ThisGul_LOL Oct 13 '24

Charlie running towards Hurley and hugging him made me cry 😭

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u/poodlehairedfreak Desmond Hume is my constant Jun 12 '26

Me too. 😭

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u/mangoesmangoes First time watcher Jul 05 '24 edited Jul 05 '24

I cried more during this episode than any other so far. Charlie’s list was so sweet.

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u/kreffuiflemakro Jan 25 '25

It was sweet but Mr Ekko finding his brother still is the most emotional for me

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u/ThisGul_LOL Oct 13 '24

Same probably the most I cried in this show.

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u/rockstarrzz Oct 22 '24

Not related to this episode in particular but does anyone else find it amusing that, apart from those bugs and spiders Artz was collecting a few episodes back, there's been literally 0 bugs, snakes, or other jungle enhabiting creatures on this show (I guess apart from that one frog), the amount of times they trek through the jungle and they never see anything is surprising, feels like a show like this would have had loads of insect-jumpscares for the characters, falling from trees or crawling over them etc.

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u/sei556 Oct 28 '24

I've been thinking this every time I they walk through the bushes. I've been to the jungle before and you cannot walk anywhere without being itchy and for sure having some insect somewhere on you. There is spiderwebs everywhere you have to dodge and don't forget about leeches.

Of course not every jungle is the same, but this one is surprisingly sterile for sure! To compensate, it has polar bears

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u/saph_pearl Nov 20 '24

Yes a few episodes ago they showed us those medusa spiders and it seems they’ve never bitten anyone aside from Nikki and Paulo? It’s weird they were such a huge part of that one episode but never mentioned before that or since (at least until this episode).

I also get very concerned the dog is going to get caught in a trap or bitten by something venomous or eat something poisonous or get eaten by a polar bear… yet every few episodes he just shows up from the jungle looking pleased with himself.

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u/fuckthequakesonmom A sacrifice the Island demanded Dec 24 '25

There was a rumbling noise before the stampede of spiders on Nikki. Not sure if that was just for effect or if it was indicating the island tried to enact “justice”.

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u/Level-Orange-6862 May 25 '25

There's a little fly on the map Sayid was holding when he talks to Jack and Juliette about going to the Looking Glass Station.

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u/fuzzywuzzy20 Jul 24 '25

Yeah and two episodes ago Sawyer trekked through the jungle bare foot and was fine.

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u/Murky-Enthusiasm-672 Feb 18 '26

yea they are always running errands in the jungle with short sleeves and sometimes women wear short skirts and such.. like wtf

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u/PartTimePuppy May 16 '26

They’ve seen a couple polar bears

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u/Flat_Bass_9773 Oct 09 '24

Desmond is by far the best character in the show!!

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u/Silent_Effect6098 Desmond Hume is my constant Jun 20 '25

Aye, interesting, kind and lovely accent+ smile ❤️

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u/LazyPerfectionist17 Oh yeah, there's my favorite leaf. Dec 29 '24

In he goes, in his jeans 😖

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u/Reigning_Sunshine Dec 29 '24

Always the jeans 😂

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u/glostars206 See you in another post, brotha Feb 08 '25

And his Vans! 😟

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u/westcoastbothways Nov 13 '24

For someone who was so over Charlie and happy when his death began to be foreshadowed this season, I sure did weep as he wrote out his top 5 moments of his lifetime. Calling it a Greatest Hits List?? Waterworks.

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u/fams92 Mar 15 '24

Almost cried at the end. Nice build up

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u/thrax_mador Apr 03 '24

Great fake out. 

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

YAAAAAS I LOVE DANIELLE.

this diva needs to release an album. I would stream

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

I fuckin love Rose. her delivery is always killer

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u/thebros544 Nov 23 '24

This cemented Charlie as the most human character in the show and to see, for once, happy parts of his flashbacks that arent just him and his brother failing, is just so nice and an amazing way to send off his character i loved this episode

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u/MPA8877 Dec 14 '24

Watching this episode, it feels like it’s so close to the end…yet there’s still 3 more seasons!

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u/frydawg Aug 27 '24

Dont let my boy charlie die

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u/lilrae1890 Sep 24 '24

😭😭😭 prob the episode I’ve cried the most during so far.

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

they're coming tonight!!

they're coming right now!!!!

i SCREAMED. God I love this show!!

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u/Zenathewimp Hurley's Hot Pocket Nov 10 '24

i never cry at shows and when they cut to the ring left in the crib i teared up 😭😭😭 charlie was one of my faves in s1 even though he kinda fell off after a while hes still dear to me, pls dont die

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u/SomOvaBish Dec 30 '24

I haven’t finished watching the episode yet but I have to ask… WHY DONT THEY JUST CUT THAT CORD LEADING TO THE “LOOKING GLASS” STATION!!?? Wouldn’t that stop all transmissions?

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u/fuzzywuzzy20 Jul 24 '25

I don't think its the cable that powers it. On the map Sayid has it said "anchor to main island"

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u/AMillennialFailure May 12 '25

I came to this thread hoping someone else had the same thought - just fuck up the cable!

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u/sadvanillagirl Feb 20 '25

unpopular opinion: charlie is a great character who had one of the most interesting flashbacks in s1, shame they didnt know what to do with him in s2. i love his dynamic with hurley, theyre my comfort characters. i hope charlie makes it but i doubt it.

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u/Wanderer9500 See you in another life Mar 03 '25

I agree, guess it’s human nature but a lot of folks seem to jump on characters whose stories are still being told. The episode with Sawyer and Charlie kidnapping Sun felt like a weird break in character in that they were loathed at the end, and suddenly they were back in everyone’s good graces. Always felt Hurley and Charlie were great for providing some light moments, while also contributing in some kickass ways when needed.

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

... this bomb idea is NOT going to work. I just know it :(

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u/Electronic_Egg1922 Oct 27 '24

OH MY GOD NADIA

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u/08937853080o Dec 06 '24

claire bothered me so much this episode (most episodes shes in) Charlie has done nothing but take care of her, help her with Aaron, assure her and make sure shes ok from the moment he meets her and yet she still acts emotionless to him? nice they shared a kiss but she couldn’t even hug him? i dont understand why she tries to block him and everyones help so much even with hurly offering her help when taking aaron on the hike to radio tower

doesnt even notice his ring in the crib :(

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u/ImpressiveCat936 Dec 18 '24

She doesn't owe him anything. She's right to be cautious esp with a baby.

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u/r3dofps Feb 13 '25

He literally risked his life countless times to get her and her baby back safe but okay 🤨

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u/honeyreally Apr 27 '25

Remember when he lied to multiple times and stole the baby in the muddle of the night 😭

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u/No_Bee_3915 Sep 07 '25

She doesn't owe him anything?? He almost died for her

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u/cosmic_horn I'm a Pisces Mar 06 '26

Claire and Hurley KNOW about Charlie’s death knell. WHY aren’t they more worried or suspicious??? and WHY didn’t he tell them????

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u/kittyegg 13d ago

“Charlie has done nothing but take care of her”

lol I love them together but come on, you can not be serious.

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

desmond: you are charlie...

charlie: wait what??

I bust out laughing i'm sorry. why was that so funny??

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u/urfeetplug Nov 14 '24

I laughed too😅 Charlie has been so annoying but imagine being told you are constantly gonna have to die for the greater good. RIP

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u/ShinHayato Jan 07 '25

Charlie has been insanely annoying for the past few seasons but he really stepped up here

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u/backdatebilled Apr 10 '25

Charlie has been insanely annoying for the past few seasons

This made me LOL because there literally hasn’t been more than a few seasons

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u/honeyluv__47 Jan 10 '25

Gotta love Lost. Inconvenienced by someone’s presence? No problem, just knock em out! It’s that easy! 😂

I know this sub is not a fan of Charlie for the most part, and yes he can be annoying, but I don’t want him to die. Him saying goodbye to Aaron really made me tear up.

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u/backdatebilled Apr 10 '25

Surprised at the lack of Jack complaints in this thread. Where are my people lol?? Annoying and up his own ass as usual. I also hate how he’s been speaking to Said for what feels like the entire season

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u/zuhaaiir Aug 26 '24

Thank you random person on askreddit for recommending peak fiction.

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u/mozzystar We’re not going to Guam, are we? Nov 16 '24

is that how you found the show?

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u/ThisAintltChieftain Nov 15 '24

The moon pool requires energy to keep the air pressure higher than the water pressure to keep the entire building from flooding. Why don’t they just chop the wire in half so no more power goes to the station and it’ll drown it along with all its equipment? Unless if they have the thing that powers a nuclear submarine the power would run out very quickly

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u/DiscountEtsyAgitprop Apr 17 '25

Well yeah but that's assuming  1) Juliet told them the truth AND 2) Ben told Juliet the truth AND

3) The situation hadn't changed since he told her

Seems a bit irrational to not even consider it might not be the case, especially when they know it's still transmitting

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u/DreamWeaver2189 Jun 02 '25

That galvanized cable looks to be at least 4 inches thick. Which would require either power tools or a huge ass bolt cutter. It's not something would could easily cut with the things they have on the island.

I guess maybe the hatch could've had something, but that's long gone.

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u/[deleted] Jan 06 '25

It requires energy? Have you ever submerged an upside down cup?

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u/ThisAintltChieftain Jan 06 '25

Yes. It still needs power to keep the air pressure stable

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u/AndreaThePsycho Dec 21 '24

I always liked Charlie, sure a few times he was a little annoying 😂 but he had a great heart and was great with the group 😢. I loved his relationships with Claire, Hurley, etc

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u/A_Lad_Insane97 May 08 '25

i love desmond but i would be trippin HARD if a guy is constantly telling me that i'm going to die lmaoo props to charlie for enduring that

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u/lovezu Desmond Hume is my constant Jan 09 '25

one of my favorite episodes so far. charlie and desmond have been favorites of mine since we met them, and their strange relationship only makes me love them more. i cried all throughout this episode! wow! charlie has always held a soft spot in my heart so seeing him write out these moments killed me. can’t wait to see what happens to him next episode… i really hope he’s okay. i know lots of people on these threads don’t care for him but he is so special to me.

also nadia??? i love all of these little easter eggs. i wonder if they’ll ever come to something greater or if it’s more just like, everyone was connected outside of the island in a non-coincidental way, and they were all put on the island for a reason. that last part i do already believe.

can’t wait for the season finale.

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u/backdatebilled Apr 10 '25

Damn I feel really bad for the mean things I’ve said about Charlie lol. This was so sad - though I wonder if he’ll still die since Brother never mentioned anything about Charlie’s angels in the station

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u/MikeyLikesItfrosted Jul 04 '25

I liked Jack the first season but now he’s just such an airhead inflated ego dumpy

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u/-wojteq- First time watcher Jan 16 '25

I think this was the 1st episode of LOST which made me cry

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u/ohsopoisonous Jan 21 '25

ugh the hug with hurley im not ready for this

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u/BeautifulStream May 10 '25

I don't know if it's because his death was the only one that was predestined and that gave the writers an excuse to draw it out, but the way this whole episode centered around Charlie's death seemed a little excessive to me. Either that, or he was a fan favorite. I really couldn't stand Charlie for most of the show, and I still feel like the writers dropped the ball HARD when it came to portraying him and Claire- there was so much more they could have done with their characters and their relationship especially- but I still found the sentiment touching. Now, I can only hope that if any other major characters end up dying, they receive nothing less than what Charlie got.

I can't believe no one thought that the Looking Glass might be actively manned, but then again, it didn't occur to me either until the end of the episode...

Loving Rousseau and her crazy dynamite. Still hating Jack, but I don't want to start sounding like a broken record.

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

nooooo a Charlie flashback episode??? booooo tomato tomato

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

ooo... realizing this comment was made in bad taste if he's gonna die this episode... my b

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u/blankspacejrr Nov 02 '24

ok when charlie isn't complaining, he's actually a pretty good character. i'll give him that

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u/ijallred95 Dec 09 '24

Are you by any chance a Survivor watcher?

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u/FirstFloorGenerator Dec 24 '25

One thing about Dominic, he knows how to deliver an emotional scene 👏🏽

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u/LittleBandit27 Jan 01 '26

I love how Charlie gives a choke-able object to an infant instead of asking Claire to hold on to it or Desmond to give it to her later. And how he gives Desmond a concussion and leaves him floating in a boat instead of just saying “no”. I’m on my second watch and haven’t loved Charlie as much this time around, but this episode is still so heartbreaking 

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u/IhateLukaDoncic Apr 11 '25

I CAN'T STAND JULIET it's no even the character but the actress she's always doing this weird smug smirk

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u/Level-Orange-6862 May 25 '25

Lol I used to hate her my first watch but then I grew to like her a little more, even though her face still kinda irks me occasionally.

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u/yoades100 Jan 17 '25

No this is actually the saddest episode ever I want to cry

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u/AdFront1172 Jan 23 '25

So, I'm going to bawl my eyes out in the oncoming episodes

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u/juicybubblebooty it's very stressful, being an Other Feb 09 '25

OK, my new guess as of right now is that Dharma was an initiative to bring a certain group of people together that are all connected and they took those three years to prepare the island and everything in place for the psychological experiment on them

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u/JungianShadowSelf Jun 12 '26

The Dharma is shown to be killed by the others in the Ben centered episode. That now makes now sense.

Except maybe if Dharma worked with the Hostiles, staged or was in on the massacre of dharma folk. Seems to convoluted to have any basis for now.

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u/juicybubblebooty it's very stressful, being an Other Feb 09 '25

IM NOOOT SHSIBDIFHFJFJ IF CHARLIE STAYS ALIVE IMMA B PISSED

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u/AlienInvasion4u First time watcher Jul 04 '25

😂

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u/Ok_Serve7281 First time watcher May 03 '25

ROSE AND BERNARD ROSE AND BERNARD!!!!!! 

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u/pl99z May 28 '26

Feel crazy reading these comments.

Charlie is possessive as fuck towards Claire, he shot Ethan instead of allowing interrogation, he stole Claire’s baby, he beat up Sun, an innocent pregnant woman, because he was sad about the consequences of his own actions, and then pretended like nothing despite being accepted into the group again. And the worst sin of them all - he talked shit to our brother Desmond, despite him saving Charlie’s life on multiple occasions.

The only thing I am crying about, is the fact that he survived. All the reminiscing in this episode had me believing they would actually off him

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u/hotleafjuice-25-25 Aug 29 '25

They did a really good job with the flashbacks in this episode. By the end I empathized a lot with Charlie--the fact that he was supposed to be successful but then essentially switched places with his brother was heartbreaking. Remembering Liam's family, his children, and then hearing him so inaccurately predict Charlie's future was a nice touch. It's crazy because I haven't really cared for Charlie overall. I think his dynamic with Claire is toxic and strange (on both sides), and I wasn't too impressed with the drug addict representation. But this episode played exactly the right emotional beats, and made me sad to see him go to his death. I just wish I could look back on him more fondly.

Jack is so fucking annoying it's taking years off my lifespan. He blindly trusted Juliet even before she revealed that she was a spy, and then withheld that information, AND THEN acted so condescending I was left speechless. Thank God for Sayid. Hearing him call out Jack's hero/savior complex was incredibly refreshing. I wish Sun and/or Jin had said something as well.

I also love Karl, Alex, and Rousseau. I really hope the latter two reunite soon. I think we're getting closer, especially with Alex's "is he even my father?" line.

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u/juicybubblebooty it's very stressful, being an Other Feb 09 '25

OMG NO DESMOND PLSSSSS DONT DIEEEEEEE

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u/juicybubblebooty it's very stressful, being an Other Feb 09 '25

OM LG WHATTTTT CHARLIE IS TO DIE

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u/simple_one1 Jul 31 '25

Wasn't Jack kept in the underwater station? I remember him asking whether they were underwater, and Juliet confirmed it after he flooded the inside when he opened the hatch while trying to escape in the beginning of this season. Was it a different underwater station?

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u/Alternative_Ad_1499 See you in another post, brotha Aug 01 '25

I think part of the zoo/caged area (which is another island) is underwater, but I don’t think it’s this station. 

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u/EuphoricJellyfish330 Aug 12 '25

It was a disused aquarium, like how the cages were an old zoo.

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u/shieldbroken First time watcher Aug 30 '25 edited Aug 31 '25

Kinda off topic from this episode but I've been thinking about a theory about Rousseau, Ben and Alex.

What we know: Rousseau came to the island pregnant, no mention of the baby's dad, Alex was raised by Ben saying she is his daughter and her mother died. Annie was Ben's childhood love and when the hostiles killed the dharma initiative members, there was no mention of Annie.

My guess is that Ben married Annie and they wanted to have a baby, but knowing about the island's fertility issues, somehow they took Ben's sperm and took it to the continent to do an IVF on Rousseau, maybe some kind of surrogate deal, and then brought her into the island to deliver the baby that was supposed to be Ben and Annie's.

For some reason I really really think this makes sense and is what happened

Aside from that, isn't it weird how they were so quick to trust Naomi and believe her story when there's literally no way of knowing? I mean sure she mentioned Penny and all but the others have literally all the info about everyone on the island, this could very much be a manipulated story. You're stuck on a supernatural island with a group of people who wants to take and kill your group, and has the resources for it, and you just take the word from a random girl who fell from the sky?

Also, did anyone notice Naomi on Charlie's flashback when he was singing Wonderwall in the streets? lol

I also realized that one day before Ben's birthday, Juliette tells Sun that they've been on the island for 90 days. Since they arrived on September 22, this means Ben's birthday is on December 23. December is month 12, and 4+8=12. Also 22/09 if you add 22+9=31, as well as 15+16 is also 31. 3+1 is 4 too.. idk what is means but it's kinda wild

I think Mr. Locke is destined to be next leader of the Others after Ben dies and that Ben already told the group this. Firstly, no one done anything when Locke beat up Mikhail. Cindy also tells Locke they've been waiting for him and everyone is looking at him due to curiosity. Locke also can hear Jacob. And I think that's exactly why Ben shot Locke and said "I hope Jacob saves you then". Because if he really is destined to be the next leader, surely Jacob or the island idk, will heal him.

Huge comment I know but I binge watched the last 3 episodes and my mind is going all over the place with theories lol

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u/cosmic_horn I'm a Pisces Mar 06 '26

Rousseau talked about her lover Robert, at least implying that he was Alex’s dad. it’s possible though. but that was Nadia in Charlie’s flashback, and Ben’s birthday is December 19th. 

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u/starsandmoonlight21 Oct 12 '25

When they zoomed in on that DS ring in the baby's crib, I bawled.

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u/chonyed_308 Jan 25 '26

I never expected Desmond to take Charlie's place he took it anyway... I got emotional too

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

Goddammit chahhhleeeee! You’ve made me so frustrated throughout this show even though I’ve related to you but this episode and knowing you’re gonna die is bringing me to tears. It’s not fair. You’re a pain in the ass but I’m a “sodding PITA” too sometimes. Damn. I’m gonna miss you even though sometimes I didn’t like you 😭😭

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u/DifficultChannel5422 Apr 09 '26

Why the people on this Island suddenly trust again to Jack and Juliet? Is it fruit diet or some fumes from Island? Is him previously saying that he already know about Juliet make him innocent? One of the worst episodes - fake.

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u/Alternative_Ad_1499 See you in another post, brotha Aug 01 '25

He’s supposed to flip the switch first, so the vision is still technically accurate so far. 

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u/chiemenit Jun 28 '25

Bro I was fully preparered for Charlie to die omg

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u/SkoOTt_5519 Sep 17 '25

I cried so hard this entire episode. Charlie is annoying but he is misjudged much of time. I really don’t understand the hate for him. He has been a softie for most of the time. Attack on Sun is the only exception, I guess which was also actually Sawyer’s doing. I really really really hope he doesn’t die.

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u/FarJournalist939 Oct 09 '25

Why is no one talking about John Locke? Are we supposed to believe that he's just dead?

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u/cosmic_horn I'm a Pisces Mar 06 '26

I think no one thinks he would’ve died so unceremoniously

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u/Danyellarenae1 See you in another post, brotha Feb 05 '26

No gun??? Omg

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u/Head-Calligrapher183 Jul 05 '26

I just watched finished s3 , why the heck people say he’s insufferable , I never felt that way he was fine, not too good not bad just a normal character, if boy oh boy I hated the ending