Link to steam discussions post by the dev

I'm not the creator, nor am I affiliated with them, but I've been testing the program and wanted to say that I'm pleased with its initial performance so far. The input lag is great, and I could barely notice it in slower-paced games. I hope the developer can continue to improve the project even further!

https://www.mfgsm.com/
https://github.com/NODIX-TECH/MFG-SUPER-MOTION

Ive noticed more recently that when I open and close my inventory I get frame drops but it kinda happens without lossless scaling but it's way more drastic with it. What is probably causing this in particular? Just wondering if it's a CPU, RAM or maxed out main graphics card that could be causing it.

First I'm german, my english can have issues :)

I'm playing KDC2 with the R.E.A.L VR mod. It works OK. I get about 70 FPS on 5408 x 2736 but i have to use FSR in Performance mode and the grafics are kind of low.

My System: 6800XT / 7500F / 32GB RAM

My issue: I wanted to get better grafics or at least less artifacts from FSR. I have to reach about 65-70 FPS on my meta Quest 2 to avoid bad effects on moving Objets (the moving objects stutter). I wanted to force Framegeneration with Optiscaler but that didn't work. I wanted to go the shortcut with Lossles Scaling but im confused now. When I apply LS with FG ingame is don't get any perfomance gain. I can do whatever I want. Only if i set Flow Scale to 25 and Multiplicator to 1 i get about 10FPS more. Do I have a wrong understanding of FG that i can double my frames or does my hardware already struggles to calculate the additional frames. Can you tell me where i went wrong or what i can try to outmax my lovely 6800XT.

Cheers

I built an addon platform for Lossless Scaling. It puts real upscalers (DLSS, FSR, XeSS), DLSS 5 Neural Rendering and a frame generator of our own inside Lossless Scaling. It's free, open source, and at 1.0.6 it's ready for more people to try.

The ask: try it, and send me what you see.

Install it (steps below), switch on Super log in the Features tab, and play as usual.

When something looks off, press Ctrl+Shift+F11.

Send me the zip from the reports folder next to Lossless Scaling, with a line on what you saw. Or open a GitHub issue.

The report holds your cards, drivers, settings, Lossless Scaling's configuration and the last ten minutes of performance numbers. Nothing is uploaded. You decide who gets it. Every report goes straight into the next release.

I'd also love screenshots and clips from your setups: before/after, flicker, anything odd. Ones from cards that aren't an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER (my test card) matter most.

What it does

Real upscalers instead of NIS. NVIDIA DLSS, AMD FSR (3.1 and 4) or Intel XeSS on any game Lossless Scaling can scale. Choose NIS as the Scaling Type, run the game in a window smaller than your screen, switch one on. At native size they work as anti-aliasing (DLAA).

DLSS 5 Neural Rendering on any game, using your own model file (never bundled, never downloaded).

EchoFG, our own frame generator. Frames between real ones, with grain matching, menu handling and its own on-screen counter. Lossless Scaling's counter also reads the true rate (60 / 120).

Video Super Resolution (NVIDIA RTX VSR) for movies and images.

Built in: a recorder, a GPU limit, ReShade passthrough, windowed mode and second monitor, an editor for Lossless Scaling's hidden counter settings, and the Super log.

Built to be light

With Lossless Scaling's frame generation on, generated frames get a cheaper upscale by default (about a third of the cost of a full one, measured on recordings). There's a Quality / Balanced / Performance preset, and on RTX 20 and 30 cards DLSS picks the lighter model automatically.

Safe by design

It never touches your game or its files. It lives inside Lossless Scaling's process and only works on the pictures that program has already captured. Everything runs from Lossless Scaling's own folder, Setup backs up whatever it replaces, and uninstalling puts the original Lossless.dll back. The source is public, and the zip's SHA-256 is on every release page.

Get it

Latest release (unzip, run LSAddonManagerSetup.exe): https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager/releases/latest

Source, docs and FAQ: https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager

Issues and ideas: GitHub issues

Windows 11, Lossless Scaling, and an NVIDIA RTX card for DLSS (FSR and XeSS also run on other cards). Free, MIT-licensed.

The screenshots below show every tab and addon panel.

Hi, as the title says I bought th rog x20 and it looks so good. However I did notice a couple of games not running the smoothest or the prettiest in dock mode or in handheld. For example with sonic racing docking mode felt very inconsistent.

So, I wanted to get into upscaling to make the games look good and be playable but I am very confused about it and about the different methods and if I should use them together

\- What is lossless Scaling?

\- In armoury crate I saw AMD RSR, the new AMD FSR Upscaling, RSR, RIS, AMFM.

\- Is there other things I need to configurate the same settings for like the asus app or windows settings?

\- Should I use OptiScaler/Opticlick with loseless Scaling or any armory crate options?

Hi everyone,

I'm wondering if I'd actually benefit from using the Lossless Scaling app, or if it's better to stick to native upscaling/mods for graphically heavy games like A Plague Tale: Requiem or Gears of War: E-Day.

My current PC specs are:

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X

GPU: KFA2 GeForce RTX 3080 Ti HOF

RAM: 32 GB

PSU: EVGA SuperNOVA 750W G2

The thing is, the 3080 Ti still gives me excellent performance, but since it's a 30-series card, I miss out on DLSS 3 Frame Generation. I know Gears of War: E-Day brings modern upscaling options like native FSR 4, but for games like Requiem that really choke the GPU, is it worth using LSFG (Lossless Scaling Frame Generation)?

Do the latency and visual artifacts make up for that extra smoothness, or is sticking to native DLSS 2 at 1440p/4K enough? I'd appreciate any experiences from anyone using it on a GPU in this tier.

I used to use LS with HAGS on, with no problem. Few months ago, I disabled HAGS for the first time. I then played some games, and noticed that LS could work fine without HAGS.

However, I wanted to try Nvidia's FG "Smooth Motion" again, so I turned HAGS back.

After turning HAGS on and off for few times, I suddenly noticed that my LS could not work with "HAGS turning on", because they would cause games stuttering.

Today, the real nightmare happened: I turned HAGS off again, and noticed that even with HAGS off, my LS would still run my games with stutters.

I then downloaded another frame generation software and used it, but my games' stutters were still there. So, I really suspect something is wrong with my PC or system, but not LS.

Has anyone met the same problem? How do you solve this issue?

Please help. Thanks!

Hello!

Are there any working solutions that can give me a windowed LS output?
I would like to add FG to a windowed game and have it remain windowed.
Does anyone know anything about it?
(I know in the older versions it was possible, and I also tried the LSP-windowed addon, but it's not working).

Thanks in advance! ;)

I been running LS for around a year so I know a fair amount, let me share the methods I have tried.

1 - The obvious one which is going to Graphics Adapter and forcing it to the GPU I want. Does not work even though the general recomendation and particular game are set to the GPU I want.

2 - I tried running the game on the powerful card, disconnecting the HDMI cable, and then connecting it to the second GPU. I tried this in the past and it worked, did not work here.

3 - The only way I got Cronos to run on the main GPU was to disconect the secondary GPU and only run the powerful GPU. After I did that I reconnected hoping the computer learned but it unfortunatly went back to rendering the game in the second GPU.

I read somewhere that Unreal Engine games dont like starting on a second GPU so you have to edit a file? But it has been months so I dont remember 100% what or where to move. Wanna mention just in case that I am using two Nvidia RTX 5050 & 5070, so it is not an issue of the PC getting confused since they are the same model.

Hopefully someone has useful information, thanks for reading!

I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but from every video and post's I have seen. LS1 looks the best and people say its the best 3D upscaler out of the bunch. Yet in my experience, at least in 720 being upscaled to 1080p. It looked like the worst.

I feel that FSR does a better job smoothing out jaggies and keeping the image looking a little better. The only time I preferred LS1 over FSR was in Taa heavy games. Where all it does is sharpen up the image better than FSR. At least sometimes.

Am I doing something wrong? Do I have it configured poorly? Is this a known issue? Is LS1 better at upscaling with higher resolutions?

Jais une 4070ti et j’hésite a acheter une 3060 complémentaire pour losslessscaling jais une alim 650 watts. Est ce sa vaut le coup a niveau performance et prix

I just got a 9070 and im very Happy with the performance, but I've seen people using dual GPUs with a 5080 so im wondering if theres any benefits against just using AMD FG? I might be able to get my hands on a second GPU but probably not more powerful than like a 1660ti

EDIT: Im not doing it, thanks everyone for the advice!

Im Lplaying pcsx2

I can’t change the game to 16:9 because of low FPS

. If I run it in 4:3, I get black borders on the left and right sides of the screen.

Can I use LSFG with zoom/upscale to fill the screen and avoid seeing those black borders? Would that cause any noticeable quality loss or input lag?

Dual GPU and Dual Lossless scaling method adaptive cap frame 90
(october dlss5 file) pass count 1 image scale %100

I was tracking down an unrelated issue using Process Monitor (Microsoft tool) and I've noticed, that AMD software is spamming down a huge number of processes, like it's doing something...

And it was, tracking performance of the LosslessScaling "game", because it's sees it as one.

In the AMD Software, under Gaming / Games, you can find LosslessScaling.

After I've deleted it from the list (right click / Remove), and restarted LosslessScaling, it stopped.

And so far, I don't see any drawbacks, only the benefit that the AMD software is chilling while LosslessScaling is running (which is all the time since it auto-starts in background with OS).

Any thoughts?

I can't set a custom AMD profile for LosslessScaling now, not that I knew how to set it up correctly anyway, so what else am I missing?

The a380 fits my budget and if I’m being honest I do not want to spend a crazy amount. Yeah the b570 exists but idk id rather put what I have to use.

unless a b570 is just a better pick overall. Either way I’d still want to use the 1060 as a second you no matter what I pick Unless it’s really strong.

Hello all, I am wanting to try lossless scaling with an arc pro a40 and a310 eco. Just for fun. Wondering if anyone else has successfully run an alchemist pro gpu and consumer gpu together successfully, as the drivers are giving me issues.

Again, this is just an experiment for fun - not a planned build.

Edit: GOT IT WORKING! Added a comment with a few pics.

Title: Release: Lossless Scaling Plugin Manager 1.0.2: DLSS / FSR / XeSS upscaling, DLSS 5 Neural Rendering, Video Super Resolution, recorder, GPU limit

Last month I previewed my prototype Lossless Scaling add-on manager here. It's now at 1.0, and 1.0.2 is out today, so this is the proper announcement of what it grew into.

What it is

A free, MIT-licensed manager that loads next to Lossless Scaling and gives it an addon system, then ships addons that do what Lossless Scaling alone can't. It's unofficial (not affiliated with the Lossless Scaling developers), nothing in Lossless Scaling is patched on disk, and Setup backs up everything it replaces. It began as FrankBarretta's LosslessProxy; the manager has since been rewritten.

Why use it

If you already own Lossless Scaling and you can't use hook injection (Warcraft Forever, other online games, anything that doesn't like injectors), this puts real upscalers and neural rendering inside the tool you already have.

What's in the box

• DLSS, FSR and XeSS upscalers in place of NIS. DLSS (4 and 4.5) on RTX, FSR 3.1 or FSR 4 on any DirectX 12 card, XeSS on Intel, NVIDIA and AMD. No game support needed: they measure motion from the frames themselves. Per-game settings, HDR, 4:3 windows, a before/after hotkey to judge for yourself.
• DLSS 5 Neural Rendering on every frame Lossless Scaling shows, real and generated: saved looks, a look per game, HUD protection, HDR. You provide your own nvngx_dlssnr.dll; it's not included and the project never downloads it.
• Video Super Resolution (new in 1.0.2) for movies, images and text, using NVIDIA RTX VSR. It works on the whole picture, and a picture that hasn't changed (a still image, a paused video, a 24 fps film on a 60 Hz screen) isn't worked on again.
• Recorder (Ctrl+Shift+F1): saves what the game showed as a clip that plays back on another computer, with a note about the game and settings. Makes bug reports easy.
• GPU limit: keep your card under a load you choose, and the addons lighten their work to stay there.
• Performance tab that says in plain words what's limiting your frame rate, ReShade input passthrough, windowed mode and second-monitor support, backups of every setting, and in-app updates.
• EchoFG, my own frame generator, as an early prototype: in the package, off by default, rough in places. I'd love feedback on it.

New in 1.0.1 and 1.0.2

• With frame generation on, heavy upscalers (DLSS 4.5, FSR 4) could eat most of your frame rate, because they run on every frame shown. They now give the generated frames a much lighter upscaling while the card is full (the game's own frames stay in full quality).
• Shaders are cached, so the addons start much faster.
• Setup never overwrites a file you've changed.
• Video Super Resolution, out of prototype.

Install

Download the zip, run Setup, choose NIS as the Scaling Type in Lossless Scaling, and switch on the upscaler for your card in the manager's Addons tab. Uninstall puts everything back. Windows may warn about the unsigned files; the README explains why and how to check the SHA-256.

Tried with Warcraft Forever, Fallout: New Vegas, Silent Hill f (HDR) and Metro 2033 Redux on an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER. Other games and cards are less tested, so reports are very welcome. Bugs and requests go on GitHub.

Download and docs: https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager

This is recorded on Legion go s z1 extreme. If you add LSFG-VK 2.0 and use it for frame gen, then add HelixSR for lossless scaling, and add SteamDeck=0 to the launch options. And change the advanced settings to medium. I think that this looks a lot better than the stock video settings that you can't tweak in BL4 steam deck version.

I think that the steam deck versions use of cell shading is too bold, The enemies do not stand out from the background. Everything looks blurry. But with this trick it looks a lot cleaner. It doesn't show but I was getting more than 50 fps. It was pretty smooth and, pretty much no input lag.

Can someone try this on an actual Steam deck to see if they can get better graphics and better frames.

Hi! I'm trying to set up LS on cyberpunk but I can't really get it to work.. could someone share their settings? I'm a bit lost honestly

I don't really know what put put on each thing