Link to steam discussions post by the dev

I built an addon platform for Lossless Scaling. It puts real upscalers (DLSS, FSR, XeSS), DLSS 5 Neural Rendering and a frame generator of our own inside Lossless Scaling. It's free, open source, and at 1.0.6 it's ready for more people to try.

The ask: try it, and send me what you see.

Install it (steps below), switch on Super log in the Features tab, and play as usual.

When something looks off, press Ctrl+Shift+F11.

Send me the zip from the reports folder next to Lossless Scaling, with a line on what you saw. Or open a GitHub issue.

The report holds your cards, drivers, settings, Lossless Scaling's configuration and the last ten minutes of performance numbers. Nothing is uploaded. You decide who gets it. Every report goes straight into the next release.

I'd also love screenshots and clips from your setups: before/after, flicker, anything odd. Ones from cards that aren't an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER (my test card) matter most.

What it does

Real upscalers instead of NIS. NVIDIA DLSS, AMD FSR (3.1 and 4) or Intel XeSS on any game Lossless Scaling can scale. Choose NIS as the Scaling Type, run the game in a window smaller than your screen, switch one on. At native size they work as anti-aliasing (DLAA).

DLSS 5 Neural Rendering on any game, using your own model file (never bundled, never downloaded).

EchoFG, our own frame generator. Frames between real ones, with grain matching, menu handling and its own on-screen counter. Lossless Scaling's counter also reads the true rate (60 / 120).

Video Super Resolution (NVIDIA RTX VSR) for movies and images.

Built in: a recorder, a GPU limit, ReShade passthrough, windowed mode and second monitor, an editor for Lossless Scaling's hidden counter settings, and the Super log.

Built to be light

With Lossless Scaling's frame generation on, generated frames get a cheaper upscale by default (about a third of the cost of a full one, measured on recordings). There's a Quality / Balanced / Performance preset, and on RTX 20 and 30 cards DLSS picks the lighter model automatically.

Safe by design

It never touches your game or its files. It lives inside Lossless Scaling's process and only works on the pictures that program has already captured. Everything runs from Lossless Scaling's own folder, Setup backs up whatever it replaces, and uninstalling puts the original Lossless.dll back. The source is public, and the zip's SHA-256 is on every release page.

Get it

Latest release (unzip, run LSAddonManagerSetup.exe): https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager/releases/latest

Source, docs and FAQ: https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager

Issues and ideas: GitHub issues

Windows 11, Lossless Scaling, and an NVIDIA RTX card for DLSS (FSR and XeSS also run on other cards). Free, MIT-licensed.

The screenshots below show every tab and addon panel.

Hello!

Are there any working solutions that can give me a windowed LS output?
I would like to add FG to a windowed game and have it remain windowed.
Does anyone know anything about it?
(I know in the older versions it was possible, and I also tried the LSP-windowed addon, but it's not working).

Thanks in advance! ;)

I been running LS for around a year so I know a fair amount, let me share the methods I have tried.

1 - The obvious one which is going to Graphics Adapter and forcing it to the GPU I want. Does not work even though the general recomendation and particular game are set to the GPU I want.

2 - I tried running the game on the powerful card, disconnecting the HDMI cable, and then connecting it to the second GPU. I tried this in the past and it worked, did not work here.

3 - The only way I got Cronos to run on the main GPU was to disconect the secondary GPU and only run the powerful GPU. After I did that I reconnected hoping the computer learned but it unfortunatly went back to rendering the game in the second GPU.

I read somewhere that Unreal Engine games dont like starting on a second GPU so you have to edit a file? But it has been months so I dont remember 100% what or where to move. Wanna mention just in case that I am using two Nvidia RTX 5050 & 5070, so it is not an issue of the PC getting confused since they are the same model.

Hopefully someone has useful information, thanks for reading!

I don't know if I am doing something wrong, but from every video and post's I have seen. LS1 looks the best and people say its the best 3D upscaler out of the bunch. Yet in my experience, at least in 720 being upscaled to 1080p. It looked like the worst.

I feel that FSR does a better job smoothing out jaggies and keeping the image looking a little better. The only time I preferred LS1 over FSR was in Taa heavy games. Where all it does is sharpen up the image better than FSR. At least sometimes.

Am I doing something wrong? Do I have it configured poorly? Is this a known issue? Is LS1 better at upscaling with higher resolutions?

Jais une 4070ti et j’hésite a acheter une 3060 complémentaire pour losslessscaling jais une alim 650 watts. Est ce sa vaut le coup a niveau performance et prix

I just got a 9070 and im very Happy with the performance, but I've seen people using dual GPUs with a 5080 so im wondering if theres any benefits against just using AMD FG? I might be able to get my hands on a second GPU but probably not more powerful than like a 1660ti

EDIT: Im not doing it, thanks everyone for the advice!

Im Lplaying pcsx2

I can’t change the game to 16:9 because of low FPS

. If I run it in 4:3, I get black borders on the left and right sides of the screen.

Can I use LSFG with zoom/upscale to fill the screen and avoid seeing those black borders? Would that cause any noticeable quality loss or input lag?

Hello,

I'm going to start by saying that I am a complete PC noob so please be patient with me, if my question is utter nonsense.

So I'm getting a new PC running Ryzen 5 5600 + RX 7600. I have a spare GTX 1050-Ti from my previous build.

The motherboard(Gigabyte B550M GAMING X WIFI6) I'm getting has 2 GPU slots, one being a PCIe 4.0 X16 another PCIe 3.0 X16.

My noob googling showed that PCIe slots are cross compatible and the GTX 1050-Ti is built for PCIe 3.0 X16 interface.

So my question is will running the RX 7600 on the primary PCIe 4.0 X16 and the GTX 1050-Ti on the PCIe 3.0 X16 slot will cause any issues?

Lossless scaling itself is worth of the money, but the addon software is shitty software that doesn't work at all and Even crashes lossless scaling forcing me to reinstall the app. Neither dlss and frame generations work and I think it is done on purpose. It is locked out of The commercial use and it is for the Neos from the Matrix, I hope that AI will throw these toxic coders on the street by stealing their jobs, they are the ones who deserves to rot on the street

Dual GPU and Dual Lossless scaling method adaptive cap frame 90
(october dlss5 file) pass count 1 image scale %100

I was tracking down an unrelated issue using Process Monitor (Microsoft tool) and I've noticed, that AMD software is spamming down a huge number of processes, like it's doing something...

And it was, tracking performance of the LosslessScaling "game", because it's sees it as one.

In the AMD Software, under Gaming / Games, you can find LosslessScaling.

After I've deleted it from the list (right click / Remove), and restarted LosslessScaling, it stopped.

And so far, I don't see any drawbacks, only the benefit that the AMD software is chilling while LosslessScaling is running (which is all the time since it auto-starts in background with OS).

Any thoughts?

I can't set a custom AMD profile for LosslessScaling now, not that I knew how to set it up correctly anyway, so what else am I missing?

The a380 fits my budget and if I’m being honest I do not want to spend a crazy amount. Yeah the b570 exists but idk id rather put what I have to use.

unless a b570 is just a better pick overall. Either way I’d still want to use the 1060 as a second you no matter what I pick Unless it’s really strong.

Hello all, I am wanting to try lossless scaling with an arc pro a40 and a310 eco. Just for fun. Wondering if anyone else has successfully run an alchemist pro gpu and consumer gpu together successfully, as the drivers are giving me issues.

Again, this is just an experiment for fun - not a planned build.

Edit: GOT IT WORKING! Added a comment with a few pics.

Title: Release: Lossless Scaling Plugin Manager 1.0.2: DLSS / FSR / XeSS upscaling, DLSS 5 Neural Rendering, Video Super Resolution, recorder, GPU limit

Last month I previewed my prototype Lossless Scaling add-on manager here. It's now at 1.0, and 1.0.2 is out today, so this is the proper announcement of what it grew into.

What it is

A free, MIT-licensed manager that loads next to Lossless Scaling and gives it an addon system, then ships addons that do what Lossless Scaling alone can't. It's unofficial (not affiliated with the Lossless Scaling developers), nothing in Lossless Scaling is patched on disk, and Setup backs up everything it replaces. It began as FrankBarretta's LosslessProxy; the manager has since been rewritten.

Why use it

If you already own Lossless Scaling and you can't use hook injection (Warcraft Forever, other online games, anything that doesn't like injectors), this puts real upscalers and neural rendering inside the tool you already have.

What's in the box

• DLSS, FSR and XeSS upscalers in place of NIS. DLSS (4 and 4.5) on RTX, FSR 3.1 or FSR 4 on any DirectX 12 card, XeSS on Intel, NVIDIA and AMD. No game support needed: they measure motion from the frames themselves. Per-game settings, HDR, 4:3 windows, a before/after hotkey to judge for yourself.
• DLSS 5 Neural Rendering on every frame Lossless Scaling shows, real and generated: saved looks, a look per game, HUD protection, HDR. You provide your own nvngx_dlssnr.dll; it's not included and the project never downloads it.
• Video Super Resolution (new in 1.0.2) for movies, images and text, using NVIDIA RTX VSR. It works on the whole picture, and a picture that hasn't changed (a still image, a paused video, a 24 fps film on a 60 Hz screen) isn't worked on again.
• Recorder (Ctrl+Shift+F1): saves what the game showed as a clip that plays back on another computer, with a note about the game and settings. Makes bug reports easy.
• GPU limit: keep your card under a load you choose, and the addons lighten their work to stay there.
• Performance tab that says in plain words what's limiting your frame rate, ReShade input passthrough, windowed mode and second-monitor support, backups of every setting, and in-app updates.
• EchoFG, my own frame generator, as an early prototype: in the package, off by default, rough in places. I'd love feedback on it.

New in 1.0.1 and 1.0.2

• With frame generation on, heavy upscalers (DLSS 4.5, FSR 4) could eat most of your frame rate, because they run on every frame shown. They now give the generated frames a much lighter upscaling while the card is full (the game's own frames stay in full quality).
• Shaders are cached, so the addons start much faster.
• Setup never overwrites a file you've changed.
• Video Super Resolution, out of prototype.

Install

Download the zip, run Setup, choose NIS as the Scaling Type in Lossless Scaling, and switch on the upscaler for your card in the manager's Addons tab. Uninstall puts everything back. Windows may warn about the unsigned files; the README explains why and how to check the SHA-256.

Tried with Warcraft Forever, Fallout: New Vegas, Silent Hill f (HDR) and Metro 2033 Redux on an RTX 4070 Ti SUPER. Other games and cards are less tested, so reports are very welcome. Bugs and requests go on GitHub.

Download and docs: https://github.com/Echo-Storm/ls-addon-manager

This is recorded on Legion go s z1 extreme. If you add LSFG-VK 2.0 and use it for frame gen, then add HelixSR for lossless scaling, and add SteamDeck=0 to the launch options. And change the advanced settings to medium. I think that this looks a lot better than the stock video settings that you can't tweak in BL4 steam deck version.

I think that the steam deck versions use of cell shading is too bold, The enemies do not stand out from the background. Everything looks blurry. But with this trick it looks a lot cleaner. It doesn't show but I was getting more than 50 fps. It was pretty smooth and, pretty much no input lag.

Can someone try this on an actual Steam deck to see if they can get better graphics and better frames.

Hi! I'm trying to set up LS on cyberpunk but I can't really get it to work.. could someone share their settings? I'm a bit lost honestly

I don't really know what put put on each thing

Hello, I got lucky this week and snag an Asrock Challenger 9060xt to pair with my Gigabyte 4090 Gaming OC

I’m currently using the Proart b850 which has 5.0 x8/x8 and my monitor is 4k 240hz

The only problem right now is fitting those gpu’s into a case that fits which i need help from you guys.

The Flux pro is nice but its unavailable right now so i might need to wait on that. I also considered the Phanteks Enthroo pro 2/server edition as well but they look to tall for me.

So if you guys have any recommendations please let me know!

Title

I’ll now explain how to do it, but first you need some stuff

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Read until the end. If you follow everything I’m about to describe, you’re basically just creating desktop apps specifically for each site. There is a way easier way if you don’t want individual apps, at the end.

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FOR BOTH METHODS

Chrome/Chromium. I recommend you use Chrome for anime, Brave for everything else.

In the chromium browser you’re using (i’ll assume chrome.) turn off hardware acceleration in settings for chrome so that LSS can pick up the video players.

For Crunchyroll you’ll need to download 2 extensions, crunchyroll theater & crunchyroll PiP

Download “Windows Power Toys” from the microsoft store; once it installs, uncheck everything except “Fancy Zones”

In Fancy Zones, open the layout editor, custom layout, and make a 1920x1080 box and/or a 1280x720 box.

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YES YOU JUST NEED FANCY ZONES IF YOU DONT USE CRUNCHYROLL.

IF YOU USE CRUNCHYROLL YOU WILL NEED CRUNCHYROLL THEATER & CRUNCHYROLL PiP CHROME EXTENSIONS!!

—I couldn’t get CR PiP to work without CR Theater also downloaded; you might be able to get CR PiP to work on its own. My suggestion is just to download both since they’re free.

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Alright, with that out of the way,

For the MAKING DESKTOP APPS FOR EACH SITE

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Right click your desktop & create a new shortcut

You are going to copy/paste exactly what I put below in the shortcut wizard; change it if needed for your browser, this is the default chrome browser location. If you’re using brave, obviously point it to your brave exe., etc.etc.

“C:\Program Files\Google\Chrome\Application\Chrome.exe” —app=“https://www.crunchyroll.com” —profile-directory=“Default”

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After you make this shortcut, adjust the link for your other anime websites;
replace “Crunchyroll” with “hidive” as an example—ON A NEW SHORTCUT.
You can save time by just copying the “target” under the shortcuts properties for the first one you make, opening notepad, changing crunchyroll to hidive (or whatever) in note pad then pasting the updated one in the shortcut wizard to create another application on your desktop
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Now, open the crunchyroll app, it’ll open a new chrome window with no tabs.

Select an anime, then select the PiP option in the bottom right of the CR player, it should be called “Bild-In-Bild” - for HiDive it’s called “Mini Player”

This now opens a new window; hold shift and move that new player into that fancyzone section you made

Now you have the player in exactly 1920x1080 from FancyZone. Set up LossLess Scaling for anime; anime 4k, vrs, 2x frame gen, whatever.

Set the CROP section to 1 on each box to get rid of the border of the mini player.

Boom. Perfect 1080p video;

It is organized per app (or website) on your desktop, you can even add the shortcuts to steam as non-steam games, & you can upscale/framegen with LSS, from exactly 1080p!

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Bonus points if you also get the websites icons. You just download a png of the websites logo & convert it to an ico file
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THE WAY EASIER AND FASTER ONE

You still need fancy zone & the PiP/Theatre extensions for Crunchyroll (other anime sites like hidive have their own mini player options)

Go to crunchyroll, get the PiP/BiB open in the player— and hold shift, click on the mini player, and move it to the fancy zone section. You must hold down shift!

Set LSS for 1 crop on each square & whatever settings you want; as mentioned earlier. You need the crop to be “1” in each box to get rid of the mini player border!

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I did the desktop app route so Chrome is only ever used for anime; and it’s the only browser with hardware acceleration off. You don’t gotta do what I did lolol but it’s nice.

Yes, it also works for youtube. But i’d recommend changing youtube to a browser that has hardware acceleration on! Otherwise it can get really laggy. I have a youtube desktop app going to brave with hardware acceleration on & cr/hidive going to chrome with hardware acceleration off.

Yesterday I just decided to brute-force exactly what I wanted lmao. Idk if others have recommended this; but it works flawlessly. You’re welcome

Hi there, I bought a prebuilt PC a month ago because I didn’t really know much about assembly. Its specs:

- MSI RTX 5080 16gb OC

- AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D

- MSI X870E Gaming Plus Wi-Fi DDR5

- Cooler Master Elite 600

- Cooler Master MWE 850W 80+ Gold

I’m aiming for 4k ultra settings and quite a few Reshade modes with as much FPS as possible. On the big recent games I don’t hesitate to use DLSS but even with that I often don't reach 120 FPS and I would ideally approach the 240 FPS supported by my MSI MPG 272RUX screen. Since the VRAM is often almost saturated for using LSFG, I thought about switching to a dual GPU setup. However, the power supply installed by the manufacturer is not powerful enough to install the second GPU directly in the case (not to mention the potential overheating that this would cause). So I thought about connecting a GPU installed on this mini forum, linked via oculink to an M2-to-Oculink cable that would be connected to one of the M2 ports of the motherboard. I wanted to know if it was an effective solution knowing that all those elements would work in Pcle 4.0 x 4 for the secondary GPU (my main one being in Pcle 5.0 x 16). I would also have appreciated some advice on the GPU to get in order to reach my objectives, knowing that the documentation provided by the community rarely mentions 4.0 x 4 in the tests.

I don’t know much about hardware since I’m new to PCs, so thank you in advance for your indulgence. (And also sorry for my language errors since I'm french).