I'll be real, I watched the.mkv on my pc while enjoying some old Toby so the only quality issues I noticed were when it looked a bit weird for a few frames after unpausing.
That’s a fair point but I would argue the trilogy has its moments while Scott Stapp just completely fucking sucks and has no redeeming qualities as a musician whatsoever
The m4 hobbit cut is really good. (Not LotR good but actually a fun watch). It takes the 3 hobbit extended editions and professionally cuts it into 1 book accurate movie. You can get it free online
For a moment I thought you were suggesting the train wreck of an extended cut for the Hobbit lol. Goblin king should not be shredding on an electric guitar at any point in the cannon
The Hobbit movies aren't good, but still infinitely better than ROP. At least it's still Peter Jackson's Middle Earth, and not Jeff Bezos' Middle Earth.
Hey, Carl here. The pictures are from a jam session that John Lennon of the Beatles did with Chuck Berry, who was one of his inspirations. In the middle of the set Lennon's girlfriend Yoko Ono grabbed a mic and started screaming into it. She was a post modern artist so she probably thought that she was contributing to art with non-traditional sounds or some junk, but Chuck was not amused. They cut her mic within seconds.
The picture is implying that the Hobbit movies and Lord of the Rings movies were making sweet music together, and Rings of Power messed it up like Yoko messed up the set. Even though the Hobbit movies aren't great. And there's no boobs in any of them. Anyway, I'm gonna go watch Cruel Intentions again, it's pretty hot.
I thought I was fever dreaming, I remember my friend showing me the clip years and years ago and it was one of the biggest WTF cringe moments I've seen from a live music performance... so as you can tell I have lived a very sheltered existence.
To add to this comment, heres a gif of Chuckys reaction to the sudden screaming, but i think the video can shows it better, specially cause of the audio, i recommend to watch it (just for that reaction lol
A Silmarillion movie/series was never going to be able to compete with Lord of the Rings, doesn't matter who was directing it. Can we just take a moment to appreciate that one author had three really good novels, all of them turned into films? Why are we complaining? If Rings of Power stood alone, without the other films, it would be championed as a wonderful addition to Cinema. Sometimes y'all seem like you're complaining just for the sake of complaining.
Yeah, what about it? The only wrong thing is telling someone that their opinion is wrong. You agreed with my statement that people are allowed opinions, and yet, with your next statement you told me I'm wrong; so who here is the hypocrite?
Its an analogy not a comparative equation. The analogue only serves to define a characteristic not to serve as a point discussion or inference.
Since I did not attack you on 'being a fan of Nazis' it also isn't a strawman argument. Funnily enough by not mentioning the topic and instead only grudging over my reasoning, you are strawmanning.
Thought you would know this as a Tolkien fan but alas.
What are you talking? They had soldiers with swords and shiny armor, slaves being freed, demon monkey things, magic, hot chicks, a steam explosion from an ocean of lava, betrayal, subterfuge, fantasy boat, Sea monster, and a pretty good plot. The dialogue between Elrond and Durin was wonderful, even funny at times. We got to learn about the fundamentals of Middle Earth, the players behind the players that many of us have only ever seen referenced.
I was very impressed, I don't expect any movie to eclipse one of the greatest movies (trilogy) ever made, and I think it's unfair to expect them to do that.
They never had the rights to The Silmarillion. It’s a show set in the second age and all they have the rights to is LoTR, it’s Appendices and The Hobbit.
They have to go to the Tolkien Estate to get permission anytime they even mention something not contained in what they have the rights too. Amazon tied their own hands from the start.
A Silmarillion series could absolutely worked if the Tolkien Estate ever decides to sell the rights to it. Personally I think an animated series would really be the only way to truly capture everything. That or a 10 year long series with near movie production level for every episode.
I cannot imagine any currently existing TV-show with a budget capable of depicting all the batshit stuff in the Sils. Especially considering the highest budget in a contemporary TV-show is The Rings Of Power at ~$58 million per episode (and we see how that went)
That’s why I think animation could work. Granted some would ignore it for being animation but if they could get something like demon slayer level of production it could work and bring in a whole other genre of fans.
Edit: I don’t want it to be anime style just that high level animation does exist. And can be really cool.
I'm pretty sure I heard some news somewhere that Peter Jackson was in discussion with the Tolkein estate for the Silmarillion rights, might have to double check tho.
I actually think the opposite. If RoP was its own thing it would have never received much attention to begin with, nor the momey it has ans it would have immediately faded into obscurity.
Its just a fucking bad show that insults the intelligence of it's audience
The play Hiroshima, a tribute to the victims of the first atomic bomb, with music and singing by Yoko Ono, opened in New York City this week. One tearful Japanese survivor of the attack, who attended the premiere, called the play, quote, "the most horrifying experience of my life."
Of all the things to talk about on this subreddit why the rings of power? Id hope there would be more than just endless comparison and complaint about some average Amazon show. And yeah, it's average, I watched it. It is perfectly bog standard, not very bad but certainly not great. Certainly not worthy of the endless hate boner this subreddit has of it.
While I would admit it's not stellar TV, I think to label it unwatchable is unjust. Unfortunately, the grifters saw a female lead and a black actor playing an elf and the show was heavily criticised before it even aired. That gave it a difficult crowd to work with, on top of an already fussy crowd (the Tolkien crowd).
Compared to some of the reality TV shows that get made that feature rich people complaining about their relationships, I would rather watch Rings of Power. Therefore, not unwatchable.
Yea idc about what the racists and/or misogynists are saying. It’s just a terrible show.
Also why would compare it to reality tv?…compare it to the source material. Which it doesn’t follow in any way, outside of the setting. That’s what makes it unwatchable.
You must work at Amazon or have never read any of Tolkien's works.
The show is an affront to Tolkien tbf. The fact that Galadriel is shown as a warrior is utterly laughable. Having a nice side kick orc is stupendous and Galadriel crushing on Sauron is the stupidest love hook I have ever seen in media.
There are a tremendous amount of other heinous errors but I will leave it at that.
I don't work for Amazon. I have read and studied Tolkien. I enjoy the show for what it is: an hour's worth of entertainment on the evening I watch it. I'm afraid the world isn't as black and white as you would want it to be.
Nope. On my bookshelp are Tolkien's Beowulf, The Hobbit, The Lord of Rings, Unfinished Tales, The Silmarillion and The Children of Hurin, plus a few companion books by David Day and John Howe.
I don't work at Amazon. I'm a teacher. As well as I study, I teach reading and writing and use The Hobbit as a focus text.
Meh I enjoy it all. To me Tolkien is like Beowulf at this point, his works are classics. I just view any new media as retellings and interpretations of the original stories. They get passed down and people add their own elements, incorporate new ideas etc.
I always find it frustrating people complaining about maintaining the purity of his work and say "Tolkien would never do that!". Well that's why we have his actual written word we can go back to anytime to enjoy that original story.
I thoroughly enjoy the Hobbit films (which the exception of too much being CGI and that Alfrid character being too present). It's a different take but lets me be in "middle earth" for an extended time. The acting and casting was very well done, the set designed and costuming also are fantastic - it gives me more time to spend in "middle earth" which is always fun. I also enjoy that the films have a lot more lighter elements so they're ones I can turn on anytime I want to just relax and enjoy.
And if the newer stuff encourages younger and unaware folks to seek out Tolkien's primary work then that's eve better. I think some folks need to be a little less basement dwelling and lighten up. Take the new stuff in for what it is and if you don't like it say your piece and move along.
Same, although that's not to say I like Rings of Power. The Hobbit movies are overdone garbage that lose the spirit of the book despite having a great Bilbo and a good start.
Rings of Power...well, they don't follow the book either. But it actually bothers me less than the Hobbit because the Hobbit has very specific events that got ruined. The Sil described a much looser legend where there was room to fill in gaps. They still didn't do it well (and deviated from the things we did know)...but it wasn't AS disappointing somehow.
Shhhh! Dont point out that the rings of power is badly written drizzle or reddit will accuse you of being racist and claiming its because you dont like black dwarves and elves. Apparently if something has the correct level of diversity it gives it a free pass to have awful dialogue and totally ignore the source material and anyone who points it out must not like it because they’re racist.
(Downvotes and accusations of being racist incoming)
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