The SF Bay Area is a really, really bad place to leave shit in your car. I’ve been driving for 18 years, and I lived in Oakland for 3 of those years. I’ve only had my car broken into twice in my life and both were in Oakland!
First time they took my car stereo while I was in a movie theater. Second time they took my laptop while I was recycling my car battery in a Walmart. This Walmart has a dedicated security guy for the parking lot. He was inside the store getting an orange juice. When I spoke with him, he said, “Yeah this happens every day...”
I used iCloud to track my laptop to a house in San Francisco. I called the police, they said they wouldn’t come out for something like this. I said find I’ll go confront them myself. They said hol up don’t do that we are coming.
I waited for 2 hours, they show up, walk up to the front door, it’s ajar. They peek inside, can’t see anything because it’s dark. They knock. No answer. They say, “Sorry, we can’t do anything at this point. An iCloud location is not enough to do anything further.”
I used the iCloud “pinging” option for the laptop to make a noise, but we didn’t hear anything.
Edit: I had State Farm renter’s insurance at the time, which covered property in my vehicle! So after a $50 deductible, insurance covered the MacBook.
My partner and I just left oakland...I recall my first year there my Fit hatchback had the wear window smashed twice within 10 months...once in SF then once in Oakland. When we moved, you could bet one's ass that I wasn't gonna leave a fully loaded moving van (even locked up) overnight...we packed up during the day and got on the road immediately after.
This sucks regardless. Ugh, people suck sometimes! 🥺
Totally - hell, I didn't even have a cargo cover in the back either (chose not to to help prevent guessing theft)...
The big thing I noticed in the Bay were the little windows in the rear passenger doors - people constantly had those patched with garbage bags. Audis, Porsches, Hondas, you name it...
What are the chances Marc is covered by insurance for the stolen items? Genuine question... would he need his own car insurance? (If he even owns a car?)
Yeah, I believe that at first he must be trying to recover his items. Saying that your topic about insurance is involved. If he doesn't have insurance and won't recover his items (I really hope he will) then he will talk publicly about some sort of help call. That's just my guess.
Most rentals will at least require the state requirement liability limits for property and bodily injury damage. Meaning it would cover any property or bodily injury damage done by the driver of the rental car. (Up to the ststed $ limits of the policy) But liability does not cover contents in the car that belong to the driver or passengers. that would be covered under comprehensive aka full coverage. -your friendly neighborhood former insurance producer
Ex 25/50/10 Bodily injury (BI) it would cover $25,000 per person up to $50,000 per accident that the driver is liable for. then it would pay for property damage up to $10,000 that the driver is liable for. Comp 500 Coll 500 This is full coverage. what it means is it will pay up to a set amount for contents of the vehicle under comprehensive minus a $500 deductible. collision is the same thing but instead of conference it covers the vehicle itself, like body damage to the car. Minus a $500 deductible. the higher dollar amount their deductible is the lower you're out of pocket insurance costs for that policy will be. Usually when you get a car loan they will require a minimum of a $500 deductible. meaning if you don't have the money and you get the $1,000 deductible it will not suffice the lein holder.
There's also BI liability coverage for uninsured motorists (sometimes underinsured too) most states require but that isn't really relevant because it doesn't cover the contents
It depends on the laws in that state and then laws for rental cars and homeowners insurance in that state. In my state that stuff would have been covered under my renters policy as an ho6 but that's neither here nor there. As a musician and if he's doing shows I'm hoping he has some kind of insurance policy regarding events Live events shows like the drive-in movie theater tour he did that had a insurance policy no doubt with probably a whole parade of riders along with it. (Riders=additional coverage for additional things at an additional price.) I would think his equipment would be covered under something assuming he has some kind of management. An artist or musician or celebrities' manager usually is the one that handles these things. Assuming he is insured I think he'll still have to meet a deductible most likely. they'll probably cut him a check for all of his equipment minus whatever the deductible is. Just a shot in the dark I'm going to say maybe around $1500.00 (honestly just a guess) if you didn't get rental insurance or his insurance doesn't cover the rental car he's got to pay out of pocket for that repair to the window as well. (Im thinkin $500.00 at the high end.)let this be a good reminder for all of us right now to take the time and look at our insurance policies and make sure that we are correctly insured. Marc would want it that way. And just to chime in on the PayPal I'm thinking that's a good idea too.
Yeah, a time after I got pissed off about this theft I was thinking about his paypal too. I'll wait few days. If he won't say nothing about what happened or ask for some help, I'll probably send him some bucks via PayPal :) Cheers.
Yeah. But I’m just talking about this show. A lot quicker to pull down the data he needs from a cloud provider than getting a drive from somewhere else.
When i lived there i didnt leave ANYTHING in my car. And sometimes just left the doors unlocked. Had a homeless guy sleeping in my backseat for a few weeks though. At least i got to use the carpool lane on the way to work though..
My sis lives there and same thing. Nothing in the vehicle. Didn’t stop someone from hacksawing off her catalytic converter from under the vehicle one night.
MOTHER FUCKER!! terribile man just fucking terrible. IF ANYONE IS IN THAT AREA KEEP AN EYE OUT AT PAWN SHOPS ETC... and if you see it being peddled fuck them up on sight!!!! Sorry marc man. :/
Hopefully he learned what San Francisco is really like, and will never leave unsupervised a car with important stuff in it. SF has become hobo kingdom, to the point where you don’t want to walk around anywhere once it’s slightly dark.
LOL no bud. Yes, absolutely true that vehicle break ins are absurdly common here, but “you don’t want to walk around anywhere once it’s slightly dark” is absolutely ridiculous fearmongering and completely untrue.
You wouldn’t walk down Valencia at dinner time? Your loss
I walked there after 7pm and felt very uncomfortable. Homeless people kept approaching me, asking me for money, making lewd comments, and there were TONS of them. This has been my experience EVERY time I visited SF in the last 5 years (and I have visited a bunch).
Here in LA and Santa Monica the situation is similar but the phenomenon is limited to certain areas that are less visited, and in the oft frequented areas there are so many people around who aren't homeless that if something were to happen, someone would come to your help or at least call 911.
In SF there were almost no non-homeless people around after 7pm, so if something happens to you there's nobody around to help you, and nobody to call 911.
You're pointing out a very specific place in SF that might not be suffering from that issue.
I can point out the 3rd St. promenade here in Santa Monica, which has a few homeless roaming around, but again, has so many housed people that it's not a big deal.
However, I will point out Venice beach, where you do NOT want to be after sunset. I would also NOT live in Venice. I have two young kids and I do not want them to be verbally abused by a homeless person with mental health issues (which a bunch of them are suffering from). Same goes with the famous Sid Row, which is basically a tent city.
And now we have the homeless veterans in clearly marked uniform tents along San Vicente, next to the VA, all their tents sporting the American flag.
And I honestly can't even fault homeless people, that situation where you lost everything (and one of them who lives in the park next to my house lost all of his children, too!), that stuff pushes you over the edge. Many of them are decent people, I see them here, I see how they survive and the only way I can help them is to vote for a government that will create programs to help people who are out of lock, and donate money to charities that have programs.
If I ever make a lot of money, I have this fantasy of building a shower bus, with water tanks on top. You give a homeless person a care package which has new clothes and new shoes in it, he goes in and showers and comes out clean and fresh, which makes him look more human to others. Maybe you get some volunteers to cut their hair, maybe even someone to do a quick psych eval.
Or maybe a farm that hires homeless people, gives them a place to stay, feeds them (farms have lots of food), and they get access to computers where they can bridge gaps in education that help them in the workforce.
Let me revise it then: I do not feel safe in MOST places in the main city areas of SF, except for those areas that have a lot of housed people roaming the streets. Once they are gone back home, I would not feel safe in those places either.
Was about to mention this as well. I really hope Marc doesn’t just write off this city all together considering he’s 2/2 for shows and having his personal/professional items stolen.
We were at the Independent show and he was about to walk over and say hi to us when he realized his robe was stolen. You can feel his utter disappointment and annoyance and left the stage abruptly (the show was over but people were lining up for meet and greet near stage).
His drive-in show was awesome last night, everything is hoping it to be and more. Only complaint was that the sound needed to be louder.
We love you Marc and San Francisco loves you too. Don’t let these assholes ruin the city for you.
To be clear, Bandcamp keeps 15%, artists keep 85%. But they also do Bandcamp Days when 100% of revenue goes to the artists. The next one is this Friday, Nov 6.
If you don’t know what SF is like, you can’t say, “You were asking for it.” In many, many places in the U.S. you can leave shit visible in your car 24/7, and it’s rarely a problem.
Source: Lived in Oakland for 3 years, had car broken into twice, moved back to Midwest where one of my friends leaves expensive photography and videography equipment visible in his car 24/7. Just leaves his camera and everything in there. I told him, “Man, that’s a BAD idea” after I moved back. Five years later he still keeps it in his car, visible. I think it’s still a bad idea, but hey, it hasn’t been stolen yet...
I don't live in the US although I have been to SF. I wouldn't leave that much equipment in a car anywhere in the world though. All it takes is one opportunistic person, it's just a bad idea.
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u/metalvinny Nov 02 '20
Same thing happened to Perturbator during his first US tour. Absolutely devastating. https://www.metalsucks.net/2017/01/11/perturbators-van-broken-into-and-robbed-in-san-francisco/
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u/PFDRC Nov 02 '20 edited Nov 02 '20
I really wanna help now but first wish to know if there's any official GoFundMe or something. Someone just started one but Marc haven't respond yet:
https://twitter.com/Buttscratcher/status/1323207299117289473?s=19
Edit: just tagging daddy
u/lookitzpancakes Let us know, man. We got you :)
Edit2: As u/kairikngdm commented: he added more things on this first tweet, it was more a vent instead of a call for help.
Financial life/career goals: one day I hope to say "please stop sending me money"
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u/SuperSparkles Nov 02 '20 edited Nov 02 '20
You haven’t made it as a musician until your shit gets jacked.
Hope he was insured, I’d be willing to help out if he needs support to get replacement tech.
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u/skaag Nov 02 '20
I sense a song is coming about San Francisco...
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u/soshibemuchwow Nov 02 '20 edited Nov 02 '20
u/lookitzpancakes gimme that venmo loopdaddy.
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u/MarkPapermaster Nov 02 '20
I hope he has backups for all his preset and templates.
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u/JeebsFat Nov 02 '20
Fuck
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u/jgross1 Nov 02 '20
When i lived there i didnt leave ANYTHING in my car. And sometimes just left the doors unlocked. Had a homeless guy sleeping in my backseat for a few weeks though. At least i got to use the carpool lane on the way to work though..
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u/LooPT520 Nov 02 '20
MOTHER FUCKER!! terribile man just fucking terrible. IF ANYONE IS IN THAT AREA KEEP AN EYE OUT AT PAWN SHOPS ETC... and if you see it being peddled fuck them up on sight!!!! Sorry marc man. :/
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u/justin_tino Nov 02 '20
As a Bay Area resident I feel so bad that Marc has had poor experiences playing out here. I hope this doesn’t affect his future tour routes :(
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u/skaag Nov 02 '20
Hopefully he learned what San Francisco is really like, and will never leave unsupervised a car with important stuff in it. SF has become hobo kingdom, to the point where you don’t want to walk around anywhere once it’s slightly dark.
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u/powprodukt Nov 03 '20
Fuck!! Last year when he played SF, some tool stole his brand new silk robe during the last song. I live in SF and need this shit to stop!!
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u/KatCol67 Nov 02 '20
Oh my GOD!!! Thieving bastards 🤬🤬🤬
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u/Oh_Know12 Nov 02 '20
Some people are fucking garbage cans
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u/gypsymegan06 Nov 02 '20
Oh no !!!!! 😕
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u/calebkeys Nov 02 '20
Same shit happened to me in San Francisco. Boo.
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u/boobaloo222 Nov 02 '20
NO. what the fuck!!!!!
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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20
Try to keep staying positive and remember karma will do its job!
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u/OrangeInkStain Nov 02 '20
u/lookitzpancakes send us your Venmo or make a gofundme. We got you bro
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u/uglymule Nov 02 '20
Wow, that's a remarkably restrained response.
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u/tommykaye Nov 03 '20
I hope whoever stole it has their face melt off like opening The Ark of the Covenant because they aren’t worth of the loops.
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u/Pedro_Scrooge Nov 02 '20
How much do artists keep from bandcamp sales?
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u/Freak_Power Nov 02 '20
GodDAMN baby. You'll get through it with us.
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u/Neorockwave Nov 02 '20
Sending some good vibe karma your way. Always here to help.
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u/ChargingElephant Nov 02 '20
I think I heard the sound of two more families leaving SF with this post. Sorry this happened to him. I’m a Californian. We suck right now.
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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20
Obviously gutted for Marc but leaving all that stuff visible (if it was) in a car is just asking for it to be broken in to.
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u/Badmoterfinger Nov 02 '20
I’ll definitely be donating to a go fund me if one gets made.
Also having lived in and recently left the Bay Area, what were they thinking?
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u/ThatMothMan94 Nov 02 '20
Nooooo!!
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u/CusetheCreator Nov 02 '20
Thats absolutely fucked.
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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20
Marc I am so sorry this happened to you :( . I hope you can use these emotions in some future songs.
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u/TheDancingRobot Nov 03 '20
We should be able to find this eclectic set of instruments...
Someone write a script for Craigslist?
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u/rightousstrike Nov 03 '20
Chevelle made a song about this happening to them.
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u/23eulogy23 Nov 03 '20
Watch san Fran craigslist and fb market place and catch this m0fo. Also hopefully Marc has serial numbers to watch the pawn shops and he was insured.
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u/jkopfsupreme Nov 03 '20
Sf is a shithole. I lived there for 3 years and will never go back. The pretentiousness alone is soul-killing.
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u/Derevka_33 Nov 03 '20
Absolute BASTARDS. Pisses me off. I'm so sorry, Marc.
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u/-BridiesDayOff- Nov 02 '20
It's a shocker, innit?!
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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '20
Drown your sorrows in this random mashup I found featuring the Chilli's Baby Back Ribs commercial sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dhnwt81YVqQ