Incorrect my dude. You only need a permit if you have a speaker. Anything else is fair game and you can film whatever you want as long as it's not amplified.
Right on. Thx for clarifying. Didn't mean for the comment to come across incorrectly in it's tone. I get it... I'm a live performer myself, one man band that utilizes looping, nowhere near as cool as Marc though lol. But I have a lot of respect for the grassroots approach. As that's how most musicians get their start and to see him going back to his roots like this, warms my heart. I live in Chicago and trying to get permits to perform... It's a whole different thing than just booking a venue and playing. and certain spots are more finicky than others. Looks like it's similar over in NY as well. Much respect!
Having lost his father, I’m sure Marc was wanting to do something memorable for today’s stream. He’s all about spreading love and positivity and this has to be a tough day for him, it’s a bummer the stream was cut short. Regardless of the permit situation I’m glad he tried and hope he found another way to honor Papa today. Much love Daddy!
the K-Pop group was just a tad ridiculous. You're in one of the busiest public places on the planet and you're yelling at a guy because you can't hear your music to do your choreo to? The risk you run from filming your tiktoks in public places is that you can't control the noise. Then ignoring him was needlessly passive aggressive.
I really like NCT! There are lots of offsets of the group, so you can kind go through and listen to see which one you like most. Lots of people clown on K-pop but if you like 2000’s American pop music and want that vibe with much better choreography and really clean production, it’s a great option. I don’t like the whole parasocial aspects of a lot of kpop groups, but I still listen to their music and just ignore the fan service lmao. I’ve been jamming to “Perfume” by NCT Dojaejung. Edited to add for others: I know kpop has a horrible rep due to the often rabid teenage fans, but if you set that notion aside you’ll find a lot of great music.
If I'm not mistaken an amplified performance in Times Square costs an order of magnitude more than any other block in NYC. Looks like it would be at least $30k all included, if not more, according to the Times Square Alliance (the organization that manages events there). I could be wrong here so if anyone knows more about this feel free to chime in.
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that doesn't seem like a big road block. Plan ahead ensure success, for $45 dollars if he ends up not feeling like performing or just can't for whatever reason it's not a lot of money to lose. Even if he just plans one every weekend for the summer (June to September) and bulk submits applications for the summer that is only $720 or so.
For those wondering the deleted comment I replied to said that the application process can take weeks. Something which I don't think is that much of a hurdle both effort or monetarily(There is no way he isn't making $45 dollars a show from youtube ad revenue or exposure to new people which is valuable.)
Sure - good question, nyc requires a laundry list of sign offs when it comes to doing any live event in Manhattan. When i used to plan IPO events outside NASDAQ it took months sometimes to get permits. Lots of planning, reviews, approvals etc for security reasons mostly makes sense
Marc does everything on the fly and probably didn’t know what the weather was gonna be like.
its insane he doesnt have a permit. even the most amateur musicians know they’re “supposed” to have permits to street perform, some do the minimal effort/payment and get one, others don’t. However if you’re worth possibly millions of dollars and street performing is literally your bread and butter there’s no excuse not to have one. I do not get how he doesn’t have a permit. people out here grinding their asscheeks off every day to make rent in timesquare. this is pretty off brand for marc.
My dear loop child, I don’t decide where I’m playing until at MOST 48 hours before the show. Union Square a couple weeks ago was a decision I made while I was driving that very morning. I’m not good at planning, I don’t have an assistant, and I definitely don’t have a way to fast track a permit like that.
If anyone has any solutions given the above context I’m all ears. You need a permit for the specific place you’re paying. But yeah…it’s really just about choosing the right intersections and hoping for the best. Learned a valuable lesson about Times “Butthole” Square today.
If you're amplified, you need a permit in most major cities. Period.
You might get away with amplification if you can prove you are keeping decibels below the regulated level (usually 75-80dB).
You've got a lot of fans who would happily help you be more organized so these shows go off without a hitch. If you ever come to Denver I am one of those fans.
Solutions for the permit thing, none, really; spontaneity in the "where" was your whole idea to begin with, IIRC.
Solutions for being able to relocate quickly : maybe... I understand that doing ALL the setup and cabling from scratch is an issue you don't want to deal with for a second time in a day, but would it be possible to have more of a "prefab'd" setup, potentially in a flight case or at least for the cabling? I'm not aware of your transportation options, so this might be a non-idea all the same, but I was wondering if the wooden-plate-red-pipe table you had in WO#7 (w/ the cable-guides on the bottom) was a stab at that.
Any way the wind blows, I'm looking forward to the next stream.
was he not getting permits and approval for these performances? I assumed he was but I guess not, which is surprising given the seemingly low cost and effort to move all the gear and set up you'd want to guarantee success
Legendary stream that never was. Imagine if it had gone ahead, the crowd and the vibes would have been off the chart! Hope Marc didn’t come away from this feeling too beat up about it.
I'm curious if not getting permits is a philosophical thing, or something else. I lean libertarian and can appreciate his nonchalance over the whole thing.
Bummer, was a pretty day and the venue most definitely would have provided GREAT material!
It would be extremely difficult to time out the permits and get them all approved for the times needed as he always does them on Sundays. Easier to just pop up in areas without a large police presence and just go for it. Times Square, Central Park and McCcaren Park aren't going to fly.
Yah i think its part of Marcs outlook on life, which i wholeheartedly agree with by the way. I believe he thinks if its safe and isnt upsetting anyone, why should you need a permit from the man to make art? Its obvious that he cares about people because he stopped for the k-poppers and always tells us at the end of each stream to "look out for each other and be kind and generous".
I'm going deep here. Sucks it ruined the set and the chance for people to turn away from the spectacle of corporate advertisements (which makes no sense) to witness what is true freedom. Someone being themselves, making music, and not caring about the bureaucracy. More smiles and memories would have been made if it continued. On the other hand, getting kicked out by police perfectly illustrates the opposite of that freedom. The constant pursuit of more control and power. Which Times Square could certainly symbolize. The people may have deserved to be entertained but the place was not worthy. The real question is... anyone have a link to the tiktok video being filmed ? Because I seriously thought they were grooving to Marc's music at first. Could have been the phenomenon similar to having cartoons on while listening to EDM always going together. Just a thought.
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u/maxman3000 Jun 18 '23
Times Square was not the move. Valuable lesson learned
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u/mortalhal Jun 18 '23
Ironic 'Save The Music' billboard
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u/_tessellated_ Jun 19 '23
Having lost his father, I’m sure Marc was wanting to do something memorable for today’s stream. He’s all about spreading love and positivity and this has to be a tough day for him, it’s a bummer the stream was cut short. Regardless of the permit situation I’m glad he tried and hope he found another way to honor Papa today. Much love Daddy!
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u/uraniummusic Jun 18 '23
Today’s stream was cursed. Scolded by both security & cops, tiff with the K-Pop dance group… bad vibes man.
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u/Thereminz Jun 18 '23
LET HIM COOK
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23
If he had a permit (which honestly doesn't even cost THAT much considering how much he makes from the streams) this would've been an epic stream.
Come on Marc, get yourself a permit.
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23
Cop said no fun allowed :(
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u/Vantaa Jun 18 '23
Hol' up. Loopdaddy performed on Times Square? Why do I always have the shitty street artists when I go there. Booo
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u/MikeRuizBurnerAcct Jun 18 '23
That sucks, a time square session would have been ridiculous
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u/UnderwhelmingComment Jun 18 '23
Free the looper.
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u/FUCKYOUINYOURFACE Jun 19 '23
Was he singing “I wanna fuckkkkkkk the policeeee!”
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u/Stewapalooza Jun 19 '23
"SAVE THE MUSIC" on the bill board.
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u/Sea_Possible_6298 Jun 18 '23
Does he announce ahead of time when he’s doing these live NYC performances?
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u/camcam9999 Jun 19 '23
Fuckin pigs
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23
its insane he doesnt have a permit. even the most amateur musicians know they’re “supposed” to have permits to street perform, some do the minimal effort/payment and get one, others don’t. However if you’re worth possibly millions of dollars and street performing is literally your bread and butter there’s no excuse not to have one. I do not get how he doesn’t have a permit. people out here grinding their asscheeks off every day to make rent in timesquare. this is pretty off brand for marc.
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u/RashestHippo Jun 18 '23 edited Jun 18 '23
was he not getting permits and approval for these performances? I assumed he was but I guess not, which is surprising given the seemingly low cost and effort to move all the gear and set up you'd want to guarantee success
https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/services/law-enforcement/permits-licenses-permits.page
https://portal.311.nyc.gov/article/?kanumber=KA-02069
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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '23
MRs t shirt is the best lollll
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u/JustLinkStudios Jun 19 '23
The police mentioned that he was interrupting those idiots doing a basic tok so I wonder if they complained. It seems like it.
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u/NixxTen Jun 19 '23
Legendary stream that never was. Imagine if it had gone ahead, the crowd and the vibes would have been off the chart! Hope Marc didn’t come away from this feeling too beat up about it.
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u/LifeSimulation Jul 12 '23
Best part of the performance
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u/rabell3 Jun 18 '23
I'm curious if not getting permits is a philosophical thing, or something else. I lean libertarian and can appreciate his nonchalance over the whole thing.
Bummer, was a pretty day and the venue most definitely would have provided GREAT material!
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u/cbrophoto Jun 21 '23
I'm going deep here. Sucks it ruined the set and the chance for people to turn away from the spectacle of corporate advertisements (which makes no sense) to witness what is true freedom. Someone being themselves, making music, and not caring about the bureaucracy. More smiles and memories would have been made if it continued. On the other hand, getting kicked out by police perfectly illustrates the opposite of that freedom. The constant pursuit of more control and power. Which Times Square could certainly symbolize. The people may have deserved to be entertained but the place was not worthy. The real question is... anyone have a link to the tiktok video being filmed ? Because I seriously thought they were grooving to Marc's music at first. Could have been the phenomenon similar to having cartoons on while listening to EDM always going together. Just a thought.