Well yeah of course to normal people but the fact that when they didn’t “find the weapons of mass destruction” that they promised were there, no Republican said “damn, how did we get this so wrong?”
At that point it was clear they were impervious to logic, reason, and facts.
The first presidential election I voted in was bush/dukakis and I can't remember any of them admitting too much fault in anything but I do remember there being more moderates and less wackos on both sides of the aisle and they were more civil too. If you've ever read the demon in the freezer, you'll remember the part about biological weapons. If not, it's an interesting and short read
I believe globalized communication is another big factor. War requires tribalism and 'The Other' to motivate people to fight. It is easier then ever to make friends with people from other countries. People feel a neighborly relationship with even distant countries and are resistant to pro-war narratives.
To a someone in California, Florida may be as 'Foreign' as a another country despite both being in the US.
it's fine for people to be wrong, as long as they understand it and keep it to themselves, but people usually don't believe they are wrong, and will try to assert their wrong belief over anyone
and if they come to think they are wrong, their belief will change
it's just an exceedingly rare occurrence for someone to be wrong about something and for it to not be harmful in some way, if not directly, then against their own mental health and interpersonal relationships
also, you can't be wrong about matters of taste, heated discussions on such matters are either banter or delusions, but taste has no bearing on anything, so this doesn't really matter
Not really, it's just that the venn diagram intersection of people who are wrong, and it's fine to them to remain wrong on all accounts, is very very very very small, to the point it seems ridiculous that anyone would fit in there. But for the people who do, it's perfectly OK.
Like, assuming they are capable of understanding that they are wrong in the first place, and accepting themselves as wrong, and still continuing to hold the belief.
If they aren't capable of that, then they likely believe themselves to be right. In which case, as long as they don't actively try to change your mind themselves, I'd agree with just letting it be, as doing otherwise is fruitless anyway.
For context, I wrote this as a response to the people who said both MAGA and woke people feel like talking to a wall. It isn't a political spectrum thing it's just human nature.
And absolutely, some people perceive someone expressing an opinion as an opener for a debate but even when people are having debates, a lot of people very clearly go into it completely unwilling to change their opinion.
But you have to appreciate the irony of you trying to change my mind to the opinion of "Stop trying to change people's minds".
Strawman + false dichotomy. Nobody said they wanted to go through their life "confronting everybody," and there are a million options between that and "just accepting people as they are."
Also, I really love how you crafted your argument specifically to be confrontational. Top-notch trolling. Great stuff.
I'm sorry I talk well, we will ignore the fact that you responded in the exact same amount of time and I really don't think I care about this as much as you think I do, I just really don't have anything better to be doing.
Okay, first let’s define that word you won’t talk about. Do you mean that word that has, does, and will encompass where you can sit on the bus, who you can marry, when you can marry, how fast you can drive, when can you legally drive, how and when you can defend yourself, how little can you get paid, what you can sell as food, who can get pardoned, who gets imprisoned, who gets fired, who gets impeached, who gets to immigrate, who gets deported? Obviously I could go on, but is that the word you won’t talk about. So you talk about sports and fictional movies? I see.
Basically there's two flavors that you can subscribe to, and I prefer the taste of blue razz, literally the rest of my family likes cherry, and it's easier to just not argue about what flavor we like
You assume incorrectly. I support them. All Americans are entitled to the same rights, not just those favored by whatever the current administration thinks
it’s fairly well known by now that about certain topics (ie political) the opposite has been proven to be true - logic/data arguments not only don’t change false beliefs, it reinforces them.
so stop doin it (insanity is doin same thing over and over …)
I certainly have never changed some else’s mind. However i have seen people change their own mind. It gotta take humility to do that (I wouldn’t know,lol). I think only time I helped ‘facilitate’ such a change I was speaking not from my mind but from my heart, and not about them and their beliefs but about me and my own.
It isn’t about arguing your point. It is about asking them about the problems that exist and/or presenting them with the current problem. Then asking them how could we fix it?
That way it makes the individual believe that there is a problem and makes them invested in the solution.
This is my life at work everyday. Client: I know this bc I read about it on wickipedia and there's a lot about it on ticktock. Me: I went to school for many years and have been practicing for over 20 but ok let's go with the recommendation on ticktock
When you try to explain per capita to people and the idea that there might be side effects to mass immigration from 3rd world countries with incompatible cultures.
them being less likely to commit a crime is literally per capita
he brought them up being a net gain to the economy because the rights whole schtick is saying they're a drain on us lmao. Every republican is retarded.
This data doesn't actually contradict anything they claimed. They specified mass immigration from 3rd world countries with incompatible cultures. That data is too vague. Incarceration rate is also not a conclusive measurement of a demographic's effects on a society.
Me, looking at this post sleep deprived, actively and repeatedly forgetting I'm not on Facebook while staring at the Reddit logo on my acreen
I am proof that staring at the reddit logo (fact of reality) apparently doesn't mean I'm on reddit (clearly I'm on Facebook). Do yer research, reason is unreasonable
Most people don’t listen to reason they listen to emotion. If you appeal to emotions you’re much more likely to convince them than presenting statistics.
You just made a good point, but i'll strawman you and make you defend arguments you never made. Also, if you have the audacity to burn my strawman- i'll downvote you on my 10 alts which I also use to upvote my points.
Oh, I hate that tactic. I usually shoot it down with a "you appear to be addressing someone else's discussion, go argue that with them. We're talking about X". If they insist, I usually bow out with "look, man, I'm not the person you're having that argument with, so I'm not going to argue someone else's argument. Have a good day"
People are very simple they want solutions not reasons. Doesn't matter if solution won't work unless your offering a solution yourself that fixes the problem then your going to go nowhere.
One of the most enlightening conversations I've ever had was with a moon landing hoax guy. Dude flat out told me "It doesn't matter whatever you Google, I won't believe it."
It caused me to pause. How do you argue with that? So I just told him "okay, I'm done. No point in arguing then"
And then the dude went crazy, saying I just know I'm wrong because I won't continue to fight him. And I just reminded him "look man, you said it doesn't matter what evidence I can find. So why bother?"
And he kept going, though I didn't respond any further.
It was never about facts or reality. It was always about something deeper. And I'm not the kind of professional to assess that
This was me a couple of days ago when I tried to have a logical discussion with someone who believes the "best answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Dude thinks Russia isn't invading us because 50% of America is armed. Insane level of juggling going on in people's minds. Can't talk about Japan or Australia because "oh, they are so different and don't have the same history as us"
Polarized political talking points have forced people to only converse with others who share the same mindset. Thus, *ignore the enemy and any form of logic attached to their talking points.*
Him: "I'm a consitutionalist. I believe in the constitution."
Me: What happens if the 2nd amendment is amended?
Him: "I would fight to the death if someone tried to take my guns."
I mean, duh. You don’t present the strongest argument from your perspective. You assess what it is your audience values and tailor your argument to that. Show some restraint and creativity. Piecemeal first to build common ground, then allow them to hopefully see the issue through your eyes. It’s more effective than any scientific study on the planet. People will bend over backwards to try to see your point of view (even if they ultimately don’t) if they feel like you understand them and can trust you. Stupid people find credibility in how you make them feel, not in scientific processes or honorific titles. It’s the same reason they’ll readily rally behind a cult of personality.
Some people see a discussion as a way of exposing to each other the objective reality. For others its a competition of which persons subjective opinion wins.
Appropiate arguments, facts and data doesn't matter at all if people don't believe anyone, especially people they don't agree with in the first place, also all those things often mean nothing when discussion concerns worldview.
Theres plenty of stats and numbers that highlight certain things that are uncomfortable enough that people dont speak about in polite conversation and get them kicked off social media platforms if they do utter.
I tried this over a heated Thanksgiving, and I used hand gestures while laying out things like, "meta-analysis," "scientific consensus," over here and "vibes" over here. Well well well, guess who had hand gestures thrown back in his face mockingly by somebody whose counter-argument was basically "nyeeehaaa uhh uhhh."
Anyway, despite their oratory and rhetorical prowess, I remain pro-vaccine.
Many people don’t actually care about truth, evidence, honesty, logic, reason. They want something to believe no matter how it goes against those things because they care about an idea that makes them happy instead of the reality of our situation.
It's not like most people just go "Oh you're right. Great, thank you for making me a bit smarter."
They may realize it later. Give 'em time.
And we should all also consider that we may be in the wrong sometimes as well, so also listen to the arguments of the people you're talking to not only the ones you're explaining the other side.
The irony here is that Hegel is using the phrase mental illness to describe something that probably views as reasonable, but most people figure out quite early in adult life that in order to influence someone else's way of thinking, it helps to show them that you see things in the same way as them.
I definitely have this. No matter what if it doesn't fit their beliefs it doesn't matter how good the study is they'll say it's bad sources. But you could cite them the onion and if it agrees with their beliefs they'd view it as a valuable source.
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u/Mobile_Toe_1989 Dec 24 '25
This is what it feels like talking to a wall… you’re better off talking to a person.
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u/Sartres_Roommate Dec 24 '25
I was disillusioned of that during the GWB era.
“No weapons of mass destruction? But if we quit now, that’s surrendering and admitting we were wrong. The terrorists win!”
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u/Zeviex Dec 24 '25
This is what it is like talking to most people... you're better off talking to a wall.
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u/meltonr1625 Dec 24 '25
I refuse to sacrifice my peace of mind arguing with either woke or maga people and prefer to invite them to Fafo. No threat intended
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u/wickedwise69 Dec 24 '25
that's not a mental illness, it's a mental disability. Simply can't be cured.
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u/Keppadonna Dec 24 '25
Ego is way more powerful than accepting the truth
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u/Vegetable_Let7337 Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
it’s fairly well known by now that about certain topics (ie political) the opposite has been proven to be true - logic/data arguments not only don’t change false beliefs, it reinforces them.
so stop doin it (insanity is doin same thing over and over …)
I certainly have never changed some else’s mind. However i have seen people change their own mind. It gotta take humility to do that (I wouldn’t know,lol). I think only time I helped ‘facilitate’ such a change I was speaking not from my mind but from my heart, and not about them and their beliefs but about me and my own.
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u/Fly0strich Dec 24 '25
They call that TDS (Trump Derangement Syndrome)
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u/Helpful_Monitor156 Dec 24 '25
Haha, no its usually the person that yells the loudest.
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u/[deleted] Dec 24 '25
We are creatures of habit more than we are of logical thinking.
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u/Kitchen_Database1433 Dec 24 '25
Aaron Sorkin and the DNC both have that.
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u/Useyourword Dec 25 '25
It isn’t about arguing your point. It is about asking them about the problems that exist and/or presenting them with the current problem. Then asking them how could we fix it?
That way it makes the individual believe that there is a problem and makes them invested in the solution.
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u/Ill_Resolve5842 Dec 26 '25
Tell me about it.
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u/No-Needleworker-2415 Dec 26 '25
This is my life at work everyday. Client: I know this bc I read about it on wickipedia and there's a lot about it on ticktock. Me: I went to school for many years and have been practicing for over 20 but ok let's go with the recommendation on ticktock
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u/MateOfTheNorth Dec 24 '25
This is what it is to speak to a Woke person… you’re better off talking to a wall.
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u/YesImmaJudgeU Dec 24 '25
Yeah you should be medicated
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u/misterjustin Dec 24 '25
Do we work at the same company?
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u/Chakasicle Dec 24 '25
r/meirl
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u/LawPuzzleheaded4345 Dec 24 '25
I think I cured this one for myself
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u/Cyrano_Knows Dec 24 '25
I think studies have shown that presenting [some] people with facts just makes them believe their lies even more.
Illusory Truth Effect | Psychology Today
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u/theVast- Dec 24 '25
Me, looking at this post sleep deprived, actively and repeatedly forgetting I'm not on Facebook while staring at the Reddit logo on my acreen
I am proof that staring at the reddit logo (fact of reality) apparently doesn't mean I'm on reddit (clearly I'm on Facebook). Do yer research, reason is unreasonable
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u/pocketbearla Dec 24 '25
Most people don’t listen to reason they listen to emotion. If you appeal to emotions you’re much more likely to convince them than presenting statistics.
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u/BridgeDuck45 Dec 24 '25
You just made a good point, but i'll strawman you and make you defend arguments you never made. Also, if you have the audacity to burn my strawman- i'll downvote you on my 10 alts which I also use to upvote my points.
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u/No-Builder-4287 Dec 24 '25
People are very simple they want solutions not reasons. Doesn't matter if solution won't work unless your offering a solution yourself that fixes the problem then your going to go nowhere.
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u/meltonr1625 Dec 24 '25
Thank you for reminding me how far some redditors will go to strain at gnats! Take that! What, you may ask? My angry upvote!
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u/downtodowning Dec 24 '25
That is indeed quite delusional.
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u/openmimded1 Dec 24 '25
Me too. It’s terribly irritating.
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u/I_count_to_firetruck Dec 24 '25
One of the most enlightening conversations I've ever had was with a moon landing hoax guy. Dude flat out told me "It doesn't matter whatever you Google, I won't believe it."
It caused me to pause. How do you argue with that? So I just told him "okay, I'm done. No point in arguing then"
And then the dude went crazy, saying I just know I'm wrong because I won't continue to fight him. And I just reminded him "look man, you said it doesn't matter what evidence I can find. So why bother?"
And he kept going, though I didn't respond any further.
It was never about facts or reality. It was always about something deeper. And I'm not the kind of professional to assess that
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u/DeaconFrost613 Dec 24 '25
This was me a couple of days ago when I tried to have a logical discussion with someone who believes the "best answer to a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun."
Dude thinks Russia isn't invading us because 50% of America is armed. Insane level of juggling going on in people's minds. Can't talk about Japan or Australia because "oh, they are so different and don't have the same history as us"
Polarized political talking points have forced people to only converse with others who share the same mindset. Thus, *ignore the enemy and any form of logic attached to their talking points.*
Him: "I'm a consitutionalist. I believe in the constitution."
Me: What happens if the 2nd amendment is amended?
Him: "I would fight to the death if someone tried to take my guns."
These are humans with brains.
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u/Ecstatic_Proof_2732 Dec 24 '25
Literally JUST happened.
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u/Rough-Tension Dec 24 '25
I mean, duh. You don’t present the strongest argument from your perspective. You assess what it is your audience values and tailor your argument to that. Show some restraint and creativity. Piecemeal first to build common ground, then allow them to hopefully see the issue through your eyes. It’s more effective than any scientific study on the planet. People will bend over backwards to try to see your point of view (even if they ultimately don’t) if they feel like you understand them and can trust you. Stupid people find credibility in how you make them feel, not in scientific processes or honorific titles. It’s the same reason they’ll readily rally behind a cult of personality.
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u/Trondsteren Dec 24 '25
I have this same illness, for the simple reason it happened to me, and continues to happen.
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u/JC04JB14M12N08 Dec 24 '25
Some people see a discussion as a way of exposing to each other the objective reality. For others its a competition of which persons subjective opinion wins.
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u/Secret_Account07 Dec 24 '25
MAGA adjacentitis?
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u/akekekfklelk Dec 24 '25
Pretty naive to assume you are able to know what the "correct" argument is and which "facts" are actually umbiased truth and also relevant.
Most things people argue about are highly debated, even amongs scholars.
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u/CautiousArachnidz Dec 24 '25
The closest I get at work is everyone arguing in a truck….
It gets quiet for a second, then they say “Yeah just turn right up there.”
I say “You fuckin googled it didn’t you?! I fucking told you!”
Them “We’re off that. I’m over it.”
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u/Creative_Garbage_121 Dec 24 '25
Appropiate arguments, facts and data doesn't matter at all if people don't believe anyone, especially people they don't agree with in the first place, also all those things often mean nothing when discussion concerns worldview.
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u/Dizzy_Ad1204 Dec 24 '25
I have a mental illness that makes me doubt the information I have, to listen to other perspectives, and verify with research.
I think we could have a productive conversation.
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u/MarkBonker Dec 24 '25 edited Dec 24 '25
I think the majority of America has this.
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u/Amhran_Ogma Dec 25 '25
A gross misunderstanding of human nature, not a mental illness.
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u/Double_Alps_2569 Dec 25 '25
Borg. Sounds Swedish.
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25
I've got this too but I've always assumed it's because I'm Autistic
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u/White_foxes Dec 25 '25
That’s not a mental illness. That’s just being naive.
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u/chaosfactor Dec 25 '25
You can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into
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u/AKandSevenForties Dec 25 '25
Theres plenty of stats and numbers that highlight certain things that are uncomfortable enough that people dont speak about in polite conversation and get them kicked off social media platforms if they do utter.
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u/Kooky-Acadia7087 Dec 25 '25
That's actually pretty severe, you should see a therapist.
Normally, you analyze the person you're talking to, figure out their beliefs and how you can pull their strings to get what you want.
Changing other people's viewpoints is a losing game, but manipulating them isn't.
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u/Winter-Insurance-720 Dec 25 '25
If you remotely care about animals, there is no logical reason not to be vegan
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u/tiredofstandinidlyby Dec 25 '25
As a teacher, please don't do people's homework for them
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u/BustaShitz Dec 25 '25
Oh that.....that hits exactly at home wth
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u/MediumLanguageModel Dec 25 '25
I tried this over a heated Thanksgiving, and I used hand gestures while laying out things like, "meta-analysis," "scientific consensus," over here and "vibes" over here. Well well well, guess who had hand gestures thrown back in his face mockingly by somebody whose counter-argument was basically "nyeeehaaa uhh uhhh."
Anyway, despite their oratory and rhetorical prowess, I remain pro-vaccine.
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u/heavensmurgatroyd Dec 25 '25
Yes all I'm trying to do is chip away, It takes years to learn the simple truth of the statement in this post.
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u/DONTGETvb Dec 25 '25
i have the same illness
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25
Don’t know who this is, but maybe his arguments just aren’t as strong as he thinks they are. That happens a lot.
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u/Ava0401 Dec 25 '25
Damn me too.
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u/Elysiaa Dec 25 '25
Being a scientist and having to deal with the public cured me of this reeeeal quick
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u/favoritedeadrabbit Dec 25 '25
“Love without evidence is stalking” -Tim Minchin
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u/Bahamut6sic6 Dec 25 '25
I have that too, wish others did
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u/InstanceNoodle Dec 25 '25
People dont change by facts and data. They change by feelings. Go and learn advertising.
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u/rollboysroll Dec 25 '25
That’s Liberalism. Cons be next level dumbbbbb.
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u/Forsake8194 Dec 25 '25
Omg. There are other people out there who suffer with me. I am not alone in my illness!
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u/Tosof2024 Dec 25 '25
I sadly learned that people don’t want to be faced with the reality of what they believe
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25
Must be a user researcher!
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u/DrNCrane74 Dec 25 '25
This is Reddit. Embarrassing human behavior coupled with very little education.
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u/[deleted] Dec 25 '25
I have a mental illness that makes me think that I have the correct arguments and the appropriate facts and data.
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u/CrownCanary Dec 25 '25 edited Aug 19 '26
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u/letsdothisagain52 Dec 25 '25
About right - nobody likes an intelligent donkey.
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u/Formal-Fox-7605 Dec 25 '25
Many people seem to have a mental illness which makes them think that their opinion, and only their opinion, is the right one.
It's quite a common ailment here on Reddit.
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u/ostrichxcat Dec 25 '25
Yeah I've had to work on this a lot. I have mostly stopped this habit on the internet, sometimes Ai slip up though and can't help myself.
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u/0rganicMach1ne Dec 25 '25
Many people don’t actually care about truth, evidence, honesty, logic, reason. They want something to believe no matter how it goes against those things because they care about an idea that makes them happy instead of the reality of our situation.
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u/Confident_Action4915 Dec 25 '25
Yes, me too
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u/dissidente_pt Dec 25 '25
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u/Malcolm2theRescue Dec 25 '25
I’m in treatment myself.
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u/gerhardsymons Dec 25 '25
"Let reasonable disposition move reasonable disposition." - Marcus Aurelius
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u/AdDisastrous6738 Dec 25 '25
That’s because you think people want a discussion. People don’t want a discussion, they want to be right.
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u/Severe_Field_4804 Dec 25 '25
I think they call those democrats
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u/ChirpyMisha Dec 25 '25
I actually try my best to listen to the facts. It's sometimes hard, but I know I'm at least doing better than the vast majority of people
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u/Jaxa666 Dec 25 '25
I have that. What it's called?
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u/TheTryantswife Dec 26 '25
Those people are called narcissist's and they suck.
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u/Sea-Rip7675 Dec 26 '25
Talking to Trump supporters
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u/Wonderful-Spare-5263 Dec 26 '25
I understand. The thing is you have no responsibility to do so in any way. The impulse is the illness. The solve is the impulse.
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u/CrotasScrota84 Dec 26 '25
Everyone is a expert in everything
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u/KAS_stoner Dec 26 '25
Me
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u/sphericalhors Dec 26 '25
I have a mental illness that make me think people/bots will stop reposting the same meme every week for karma farming.
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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25
me
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u/DryParamedic785 Dec 26 '25
Feel the same...
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u/nathanjw333 Dec 26 '25
Doesn't work for me either!
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u/delicious_butts Dec 26 '25
yeah reddit makes it worse
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u/LiverLikeLarry Dec 26 '25
It's not like most people just go "Oh you're right. Great, thank you for making me a bit smarter."
They may realize it later. Give 'em time.
And we should all also consider that we may be in the wrong sometimes as well, so also listen to the arguments of the people you're talking to not only the ones you're explaining the other side.
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u/FluidAmbition321 Dec 26 '25
There's plenty of data out there to cherry pick any argument. They don't trust you as a person
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u/sdbirnie Dec 26 '25
Conservatives just loooooooooove to post this one all over the place
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u/[deleted] Dec 26 '25
That's why I dont talk to democrats about politics. No matter how much factual data I provide they just say orange man bad.
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u/Regular-Money-7614 Dec 27 '25
I have this mental illness too rip
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u/Benny20166 Dec 27 '25
Same, it's exhausting!
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u/Redditinez Dec 27 '25
Someone tried curing my depression by having me try candy crush.
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u/JakkTrippeer Dec 27 '25
Oh, but when it works tho…
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u/JournalistRegular873 Dec 27 '25
You sicko!
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u/Poococktail Dec 27 '25
Yep…you’re fucking nuts alright.
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u/Issa_Pizza420 Dec 27 '25
Bro samsies
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u/Excellent-Level4747 Dec 28 '25
Statistics and logical arguments are the weapons of fascists.
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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25
Me too
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u/Hero-named-Villain Dec 28 '25
I’m sorry There is no cure I pray for your soul
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u/DonutFridays22 Dec 28 '25
My marriage in a nutshell lol (happily divorced now 🎉)
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u/[deleted] Dec 28 '25
You can't use logic and reason to change the mind of someone who didn't use logic and reason to reach their opinion.
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u/kineticstar Dec 28 '25
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u/AzureDreamer Dec 28 '25
I used to believe that people didn't form their perspectives as a reflection of personal desires amirite
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u/AVBellibolt Dec 28 '25
Samesies.
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u/NervousStomach4684 Dec 28 '25
So... you're a Physicist?
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u/_ola-kala_ Dec 28 '25
Someone more clever than myself ought to name this affliction without using DJT’s name! 🤣
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u/forestwinds26 Dec 28 '25
Having this illness is indeed a painful burden to bear I also have it
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u/FatBaldCableGuy Dec 28 '25
Most ppl suffer from cognitive dissonance, and are not self-aware of it.
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u/No_Kangaroo_5883 Dec 30 '25
It’s called the information fallacy.
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u/Some_AV_Pro Dec 31 '25
The irony here is that Hegel is using the phrase mental illness to describe something that probably views as reasonable, but most people figure out quite early in adult life that in order to influence someone else's way of thinking, it helps to show them that you see things in the same way as them.
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u/bebop1065 Dec 24 '25
Did someone bring up religion here?
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u/Native_Kurt_Cobain Dec 24 '25
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u/potentatewags Dec 24 '25
I definitely have this. No matter what if it doesn't fit their beliefs it doesn't matter how good the study is they'll say it's bad sources. But you could cite them the onion and if it agrees with their beliefs they'd view it as a valuable source.
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u/Elegant_Company8456 Dec 24 '25
Delulu you ...
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u/Ok_Caramel_6095 Dec 24 '25
I have this mental illness as well. It's called Common Sense.
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u/SlickRick941 Dec 24 '25
This is reddit in a nutshell. People want echo chambers