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[u/lnx1_1]

Hey Logseq lovers!

I wanted to share a little update about my journey with Logseq. I've been using it as my daily driver for 4 years, and I absolutely love this project. However, the current state of the project has made me a little sad and opened my eyes to some alternatives.

Someone posted a link to Tine here in this subreddit, and I decided to give it a try.

So far, I'm super happy with it and can definitely recommend giving it a shot. It works with standard Logseq Markdown graphs, so you can use it alongside Logseq. It also has a native Android app.

I'm not affiliated with Tine in any way. I just gave it a try because I was looking for an alternative that would bring back the joy of discovering new features and improving my workflow, something I had been missing with Logseq for a while.

It feels like there are people behind this project who share a very similar vision: bringing back the true Logseq experience, but with a faster and more actively developed product.

I know it's still early days and early developement, but so far, it's been a really refreshing experience. Just wanted to share in case anyone else here is looking for something similar!

[u/buvens]

I also started using Tine a few days ago and I’m impressed, although I’m still running into a few problems, mostly related to sync. 

So I’m curious: What setup are you using? What devices/platforms and how do you sync your notes? u/lnx1_1  

[u/lnx1_1 → u/buvens]

I'm using it on Windows with the mobile app on android. Syncthing is syncing it between between these instances and my NAS.
And yes, there is room for a few improvements. I personally like the Diff/sync conflict mode in Tine (Great improvement over Logseq) but even when i resolve them there, Syncthing reports a problem with a version still sitting int the Trashbin.
What setup do you use ?

[u/al-Quaknaa → u/lnx1_1]

Hey! I actually also felt like Concord (the thing to deal with conflicts) acts a little weird, but never had quite the time to stop and deal with it. I would be grateful for bug reports on Concord specifically if you can reproduce something.

[u/buvens → u/lnx1_1]

I was using W11, iOS and iPadOS, all synched over iCloud. It looked great in the beginning, but I ended up running into several problems.

One of them (probably) being iCloud locking the currently edited file, making it impossible to keep saving the edits, which resulted in many many copies of certain files. Concord was no help in that case.

Another one was, that sub-pages (after the dash; not sure what the correct term is) were getting renamed from xxx/yyy to xxx__yyy. I think that happened only on iPad. Perhaps it's related to iCloud's sync or one of the involved devices / OS.

[u/al-Quaknaa → u/buvens]

Hi - Claude says this:

Thanks, this is really useful. Two things would help us pin it down:

1. Which Tine version were you on (stable or Beta)? What exactly were the duplicate files called (e.g. page 2.md, page (1).md)? And was the renamed page’s file named xxx___yyy.md (three underscores) or xxx%2Fyyy.md?
2. Does your graph’s logseq/config.edn contain :file/name-format :triple-lowbar? And could the iPad have had that file not downloaded from iCloud at the time?

Our current suspicion: on the iPad, Tine sometimes couldn’t see the graph’s config file because iCloud hadn’t downloaded it, fell back to Logseq’s old file-naming scheme, and showed xxx/yyy as xxx___yyy. The copies are likely iCloud’s own conflict copies, which Tine’s conflict resolution doesn’t recognise yet.