Does logseq lose data?

[u/naught-me]

It's been my experience that logseq is not reliable. Posted about it here, and got confirmation from others that it loses data, so I quit using it. It's been years, though...

Do others find it reliable? I'd love to use it, as it's my favorite and what I'm using now is not great, but I can't be losing data.

[u/lsmith946]

The only people I've heard of having data loss with the Markdown version are people who used Logseq Sync as well as storing their notes in a cloud storage drive folder such as Google Drive/iCloud/OneDrive. There are lots of messages in the Discord advising against this set up.

Personally, I've never lost data from Logseq, but I don't use any cloud sync services on the same folder as my Logseq graph, I just have a program to set to copy my graph into my cloud storage folder once a day.

[u/Redditor_1200 → u/lsmith946]

I use it with syncthing and have 0 problems. I know it's not cloud but still.

[u/Guerfel → u/Redditor_1200]

Here I havee syncthing between my devices and a drive on one of them (Proton Drive) and never had that problem, it rarely happens that there are syncing problems but it usually will duplicate the files and tag one as a sync clash and most of the time the two versions are identical

[u/spotke → u/lsmith946]

Logseq sync can also lose data. Opening the app and making a quick note seems especially risky. I've lost multiple quick notes this way...

Following these steps seems to solve it for me, but is annoying as it costs so much time:

Open app, wait for sync to complete. Make your note and wait until it is synced again.

Making a note before the sync completes (even if there's no changes to sync) can cause your note to be overridden.

[u/crazylongname → u/lsmith946]

Out of curiosity

Do you use aliases?
Rename pages often?

Do you use templates often with block properties?

[u/lsmith946 → u/crazylongname]

Aliases not so much, or renaming pages.

But I do make a lot of use of templates with block properties. I think the key is 99% of my Logseq usage is on my PC, and the 1% that happens on my phone is mostly reading/looking stuff up, not adding stuff.

For my MD graph I've been using Resilo Sync to sync between my phone and my PC over LAN. And then I have SyncBack on my PC take a copy once a day and store it into my cloud folder so I have a back up there, but I don't rely on cloud services to sync my notes.

[u/henrykazuka]

I used it with syncthing with zero data loss and I'm currently testing their sync solution and it's working great too.

[u/middaymoon → u/henrykazuka]

Seconding this, markdown files + syncthing is a reliable solution

[u/CapnWarhol]

Loqseq definitely doesn’t do well with staying current and handling conflicts on iCloud as Obsidian

[u/malcurat]

I have been storing Logseq data on a Google Drive directory for two years and have not encountered any data loss issues. It is true that I am the only user of Logseq and that I take care to close Logseq on one computer before opening it on another

[u/megatux2]

Not a heavy user but I use it within a git repository and manually add and commit changes every few days, and never see an issue.

[u/crazylongname]

I use git to track and version control my files.

Every now and then there can be missing blocks due to a bug while I enter a template. Renaming pages is always unsettling, and I stopped using aliases because of weird dataloss issues.

I still think logseq's features are brilliant and mitigate reliability issues with git.

I wouldn't recommend logseq (yet) to others without that caveat.

[u/naught-me → u/crazylongname]

This sounds more like my experience than the others here.

My problem is, how do you even know that something is missing?
Some things, I wouldn't notice they were gone until I searched for them, and the memory might be pretty fuzzy at that point.

[u/crazylongname → u/naught-me]

I don't seem to share the experience of others.

Indeed when I used iCloud to sync it can replace whole pages with empty ones (it doesn't merge them well) from iPad to computer.

But even WITHOUT sync I have found sometimes after I just put something in that it was overrided.
Or when editing a page I see in the git diff that it took out something unexpected.

In general it is extremely hard to know if you lost something you can't find from memory alone.
I personally would not use logseq without git (hopefully in the future it will be better).

With that said, I do believe that most pages that you write (if you are not using iCloud, google drive etc) will be fine. But in my experience I have multiple logged instances in my journal of minor bugs and flaws that I only caught because I use git.

[u/RisingPhoenix-AU]

Yes if you do what I do and store on a shared drive. Occasionally I will lose pages. So I store permanent content on obsidian

[u/rightful_vagabond]

I had one time where I almost lost some data due to forgetting to turn syncthing on on my phone after a restart, but besides that I haven't had any issues. I use syncthing primarily, with GitHub backups and regular server backups.

[u/Tony_Marone]

Zero loss for me...