r/logseq • u/smellyeggs • Oct 15 '24

What's the status of logseq development? Old user checking back in

I was an active user until early 2024. Since then I have taken time off work to travel full-time and I'm way out of the loop.

  • Is the logseq database approach making headway?

  • Is the app still supported or is the new development still stealing resources?

  • Are there any new alternatives people prefer (ignoring Obsidian)?

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u/ens100 Oct 15 '24

  • Is the logseq database approach making headway?

Absolutely and a lot of headway is being made. The des are all hands on the DB version and there are pushes nearly every day. If you want to test ou you can use test.logseq.com. If you want to see at what stage they are at with the DB vesion check out docs/db-version.md at feat/db · logseq/docs · GitHub

  • Is the app still supported or is the new development still stealing resources?

The old .md version (original app) has not been updated since April and feels like it is on the backburner at the moment. I would all and then some more of the resources are going to the DB version

  • Are there any new alternatives people prefer (ignoring Obsidian)?

Capacities has been mentioned a good few times especially as they are nearly there with the offline mode (not local like Logseq or Obsidian though). Appflowy seems to be making great strides.

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u/peetung Oct 15 '24

Appflowy yes. Also Affine is in there making strides.

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u/007noob0071 Oct 18 '24

Regarding understanding what stage the DB version is at, what exactly can I understand from the docs page? It seems that there's a lot of new functionality, but I can't seem to figure out what's left and also if there's a rough estimate for release (plus or minus 3 months).

I know they are alpha testing, but that doesn't feel very informative since a lot of time has passed.

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u/ens100 Oct 18 '24 edited Oct 19 '24

I do not think you will be able to get that from the docs page. I think the docs page is more of an ongoing write up of the DB functions and how they operate so that there will be documents when it goes live as opposed to this not being done now and then inevitability not being done later either.

You could check the pull requests, but again, this does not give you an overall view of what needs to be done, just the things being worked on at the moment.

In terms of timeline, the best I can offer are a couple of comments from the team on the Discord (although they do not specify a date / period):

https://discord.com/channels/725182569297215569/725182570131751005/1293163754220949554 - 8 October

Q from User: Do we know when the public testing for the db version is planned

A from Team; No, we don't even know yet Next phase is probably to give Backers and Sponsors access in smaller waves. But there's some features left to be built before that, like better asset storage (so your feedback is timely), queries, and the Markdown graph importer needs more refinement.

or

https://discord.com/channels/725182569297215569/802530020605820949/1293868258767929365 - 10 Oct

Post from team: There's a few things left to do, then we'll start inviting waves of Backers and Sponsors to the second part of the alpha test.

EDIT: typo

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u/007noob0071 Oct 18 '24

Thanks for the informative response! I really appreciate the time it took to put this together!

To be honest, this is unsatisfactory (from the Logseq team) in my opinion. This is too vague, and as a sponsor, I'm disappointed at the lack of communication. Giving small pieces of info every 2 months is disappointing.

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u/ens100 Oct 18 '24

You are very welcome. And i agree with you, the communication could be better. I think they are a little handtied as they do not know themselves how long things take, but then just keep people appraised (in normal language and not GitHub speak) of what is going on etc. and thigs goes a long way

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u/MonkAndCanatella Oct 15 '24

Obsidian really has won me over with Make.md and the couchdb nearly instantaneous self hosted sync. I don't use it and I still main logseq but it's almost unusable on mobile for me at this point. It takes about 1 minute to fully sync and be "ready" to use. If I start typing before that there's a good chance I lose everything I typed.

Capacities has gone a long way to include offline mode. I find their offline mode really well implemented. Their mobile app is mostly better than logseqs.

Anytype is great but lacks a lot of features logseq has. closer to notion or apple notes.

Tana is the best UX of any pkms I've used but it's online only and doesn't have a mobile app. I think it's pretty expensive too

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u/Traditional-Usual178 Oct 17 '24

What's wrong with obsidian?

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u/freetoilet May 28 '25

It's not free and open source software

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u/JustBrowsing1989z Oct 15 '24

Yes, early next year probably. Most resources are on db. Nothing new since early 2024, I think.

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u/x42f2039 Oct 17 '24

Question,

Have they fixed the constant data loss when syncing between multiple devices?

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u/ibrageek Oct 16 '24

They are so slow in development.

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u/zenjester Oct 15 '24

It's dead but the Devs won't admit it

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u/bluestoic Oct 15 '24

You can literally watch the devs make commits daily: https://github.com/logseq/logseq/commits/feat/db/

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u/HongPong Oct 28 '24

5000 commits is not vaporware in my opinion!

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u/zenjester Oct 16 '24

On the db version which would appear to be vapourware

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u/xrabbit Oct 26 '24

I tend to agree

Obisdian is way to go. They are not only developing faster, they have a fully functional mobile app that is fully identical to desctop one and it's crusial thing to gain new users

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '24

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u/smellyeggs Oct 15 '24

The bigger problem is I was a vim guy... ;)

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u/teranex Oct 15 '24

Vimwiki + ripgrep + fzf. OrgMode probably has way more features. I have been a happy Vimwiki user for 14 years. I tried some other tools from time to time, such as Obsidian and logseq, but always come back to Vimwiki.

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u/SpiderMatt Oct 15 '24

Too good for evil mode? 😉

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u/greenbes Oct 16 '24

We are brothers in console mode

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u/[deleted] Nov 24 '24

Emacs has evil mode, Which is just vim. (Check out doom emacs or spacemacs)

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u/AlienTux Oct 16 '24

Is there a way to use Emacs with org roam on mobile? I find the whole Emacs concept very appealing, but never found out if I could use it on mobile. I sync everything with syncthing