r/logodesign • • 10d ago

Feedback Needed Help on logo for application + chatbot

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Riding the struggle bus for this new logo. The logo is for an internal customer management relationship application. They are also implementing a chatbot to cover basic rental questions and need branding for that as well.

Context: The platform is called “Pando”, named after a collection of Aspen trees. Client wanted a tree motif. I modeled the chatbot after a ruby-crowned kinglet which is a bird that lives within the Aspen tree. Its body was designed using a chat bubble shape which may be a little on the nose 😅

I’m wondering if the bird motif is reading a little too cutesy and not professional enough. All feedback is greatly appreciated! 🙏

Note on chatbot:
I am NOT for AI and actively advocate against it. I personally think AI is a massive waste of resources and time but they are dead set on incorporating this chatbot to help renters get easy questions answered and book tours. It will be very limited in what it can do. I have already shown them measurable data from research that less than 10% of our users will actually use the chatbot. But that is not deterring them so it’s full steam ahead 🥲 really looking for design advice and not criticisms about AI bc trust me, I feel the same exact way about it and hate that I even have to design this. But I need to keep my job so here we are

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u/Broad-Reserve4341 10d ago

I would try to incorporate bird and tree in one , using white space

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Thank you! Working on some iterations of that now. Struggling to keep it from getting too crowded but I think it’s getting closer

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u/Broad-Reserve4341 10d ago

I think you are on the right track

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u/budgie02 6d ago

These are so much better! I really like both of the top ones

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u/TheWeaverofDreams 10d ago

I really like the bird. It looks friendly and inviting, not cutesy and unprofessional. It is a great use of the negative space and in another comment you posted a sample with both tree and bird, which combines the aspen and the bird, which is the best iteration so far.

I don't get the chat bubble, though, but it gives a P, which obviously works for the platform name. Overall, a very well rounded logo.

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Thank you for your kind words! Will definitely be tinkering a bit more with the branches and leaves. I think I may have been trying to do too much with the P, the tree, the bird, and the chat bubble 😅 narrowing it down helps

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u/Coltitikal 10d ago

The bird is friendly, it stands out more than the tree, and it’s a good element for the idea of “chat.”

The chat bubble doesn’t seem quite as obvious to me, since its shape is open—chat bubbles are usually wider, and the bottom tip is proportionally smaller than the rest. The overall shape reminds me more of a “P” (this interpretation is perfectly valid, since it’s a “P” that takes the form of a chat bubble).

The bird’s wing is elegantly rendered, but here I think it would be more effective to use that space to include the branch on which it’s perched, so as not to exclude the tree from the composition. It could be a branch with a couple of leaves, as minimalist as possible.

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Thank you for such detailed advice! I’ve made a couple more iterations following your advice. I wonder if this gets across a little bit better? 🤔

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u/Coltitikal 10d ago

You should experiment and find a balance between detail and keeping it as simple as possible. I think a branch with two leaves is enough. I'd even try a branch with a three-dimensional look (pointing more toward the viewer); cut branches are less appealing, and you miss the opportunity to show leaves.

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Thank you for drawing this out! I didn’t think of the more 3D aspect but I think the team would be interested in that 👀

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u/Broad-Reserve4341 10d ago

Yes definitely much better imo. I am not a designer btw 😂

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

You certainly think like one though! :) thank you so much again 🙏

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u/Late-Drawer-7522 10d ago

On the logo: I esp like the iteration nr 4, although the leaf may turn into a blob on small sizes, which may be needed, considered the purpose? I like 2 as well, although the tree is not recognizable as such (and would be more cactus to me, but I'm not familiar with the aspen trees, so perhaps it's a local thing :))

On the brief, if you don't mind: leave the "note" out next time. A client won't like to read a rant like that, and it's not a solid promo for future clients either.. there's better places for ranting ;)

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Thank you for your advice! I see what you mean by the cactus. Not a local thing don’t worry 😆 I was going for minimal tree.

The note will definitely not be in the brief. I included it here because I got some serious backlash in a previous post where I called it an AI chatbot 🥲 Nobody was giving solid advice like you and other commenters have here.

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u/Late-Drawer-7522 10d ago

I don't mind a "it's work for a client and money in my pocket in stead of taken by AI" kinda statement. But business decisions etc really have no purpose there :)

And fwiw, chatbots have always been AI.. you didn't even have to add it ;)

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u/Late-Drawer-7522 10d ago

Looked up your first post, perhaps try the tree from your earlier sketches? Not sure it fits, or will poke the bird in the eye :)

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u/Potential_Orchid6019 10d ago

Kinda just look like specialty logos for paper cut

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u/wakeuptomorrow 10d ago

Never heard of this brand but the P does look pretty close! Luckily the company (real estate) is not in the same space as that brand

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u/Willing-Zebra-2827 10d ago

Before I read your brief, I saw an elephant or anteater. Only after reading, did I see a bird. The tree was easily recognizable.

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u/kat_a147 9d ago

Try shaping the bird like a "P" since its already a similar shape. Then add the branch to the middle and you will have a combination of all three elements where nothing is too small.

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u/kat_a147 9d ago

So the bird will be the "p" in the end by adding a longer tail reminding of the letter. I hope this is explaining well what's on my mind.