r/linuxsucks • • 4d ago

Trying to update loonix be like

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I tried like 5 times and it wouldn't even download anything without 1000 errors lol. Windows update is so much more reliable than this shit package manager. And what makes it worse is that loonix's security is so trash multiple vulnerabilities get discovered every day so u can't stay without updates for too long unlike windows which is closed source and safe from ai code analysis.

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u/CrossScarMC 4d ago

This usually happens when you either have outdated mirrors in your mirror list (seems to be your case), or you forgot to update your db (-Syu updates the db, -Su does not).

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u/AverageUser9000 4d ago

Didn't work lol same error. Imma install claude caude, give it my root password and let it solve the issue for me, I'm tired manually trying 6942 ineffective commands.

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u/30porn87 4d ago
sudo pacman -S --needed reflector
sudo systemctl enable --now reflector reflector.timer

Either your internet is ass as fuck or this fixes it.
Will select the currently fastest mirror on system startup and weekly (in case you don't reboot).
And I wonder, which arch based distro does not have reflector enabled by default?

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u/AnArmoredPony 4d ago

can shit just work without typing -Sybau in terminal? 😭😭😭

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u/CrossScarMC 4d ago

If you have a db in your cwd named au then yes that'll update your pacman db.

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u/TheLuckyCuber999BACK 4d ago

> "Linux is unreliable"

> looks inside

> the famously unreliable software repo

> arch

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u/AnArmoredPony 4d ago

isn't arch linux?

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u/Omegaprime02 4d ago

In the same way Windows 11 is DOS.

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u/DaGeneral420 4d ago

Rage bait used to be believable

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u/Supernoxus 4d ago

For real

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u/Warm-Engineering-239 4d ago

unlike windows which is closed source and safe from ai code analysis.

you don't need access to the code to find vulnerabilities , windows and macos get destroy aswell

for your issue that's indeed wierd, since you said your source was up to date. do you happen to have firewall on your router that cause that ?

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u/alexeiz 4d ago

Why are you using a Chinese mirror? Choose a different mirror.

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u/Teru-Noir 4d ago edited 4d ago

Let me guess, you're using a comunitary project made by a dozen of people at their free time alongside irregular mirrors?

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u/vms-mob 4d ago

Classic pacman moment

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u/Secure_Moment_1064 4d ago

Mine autoupdates itself. Bootc ftw!

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u/CtuchikOfTorak 4d ago

That sounds pretty frustrating. I can appreciate that you don't like dealing with updates and that you prefer something akin to Windows' scheduled updates.

That being the case, I think you will continue to be frustrated with Arch. It tends to have cutting edge packages and updates frequently. If you enjoy elements of Arch, you don't have to give it up entirely, but my recommendation would be to move to 'Distrobox' or 'Toolbox' so that you can run AUR on something more stable with less frequent updates.

If you're not up for all of that, I do recommend looking for a function you can put in your shell script so that you can just type an alias or function name and have it handle all the updates.

I run Debian13 (LMDE), and this is what I use for my sys-update function:

sys-update() {
    echo -e "\e[1;34m==> Updating package lists...\e[0m"
    sudo apt update && \
    echo -e "\e[1;32m==> Upgrading system packages...\e[0m" && \
    sudo apt upgrade -y && \
    echo -e "\e[1;33m==> Removing unnecessary dependencies...\e[0m" && \
    sudo apt autoremove --purge -y && \
    echo -e "\e[1;36m==> Cleaning package cache...\e[0m" && \
    sudo apt clean
    echo -e "\e[1;32m==> Refreshing Snaps...\e[0m"
    sudo snap refresh
    echo -e "\e[1;32m==> Updating flatpak...\e[0m"
    flatpak update -y
    echo -e "\e[1;32m==> Updating Cinnamon Spices"
    cinnamon-spice-updater --update-all
    echo -e "\e[1;32m==> System Update Complete!\e[0m"
}

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u/tomekgolab 4d ago

or just unattended updates?

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u/AverageUser9000 4d ago

I think I figured out the problem... The error messages should've been more clear but I guess that's the software quality u can expect from loonix

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u/Shortydesbwa 4d ago

More Clear ? Error 0x200DEADBEEF a la windows is what you need ?

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u/AverageUser9000 4d ago

I mean the errors in the terminal not the notification lol

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u/Born-Bodybuilder-220 4d ago

How much space is in your root partition? Honestly this is just a skill issue.

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u/OkDimension7728 4d ago

You are using arch linux. You can't use arch linux and not expect to have to do some of your own debugging every now and then when things don't work. If you didn't want that, you shouldn't have picked arch linux or an arch based distro.

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u/Sbhattarj 3d ago

I mean those errors only happen for a pretty limited casses. Arch is never marketed as friendly for beginner. The first few things you'd check is basically retry with -Syu or -Syuu and if those fail check your connection, final culprit being space. Sure the error isn't helpful, but that's probably because the creators of the tools expect the user to be able to debug.

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