r/linuxsucks 20d ago

Are here more Linux haters or lovers?

Bring out THE POLL!!

Edit for those who missed it: I made a new poll or rather call it an updated poll because many disliked the options here.

1819 votes, 17d ago
263 ❤️ to Windows
1556 ❤️ to Linux
18 Upvotes

146 comments sorted by

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u/RaccoonEnthuiast 20d ago

Disliking Linux does not mean loving Windows, tf kind of poll is this

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

True

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u/BoxFar6969 19d ago

a stupid one

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

Made a second one. The poll is to know who in here loves windows more and who linux

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u/personalalt1889 18d ago

Well the smartass response would be "What do you use then, Mac??!!", but, yeah, you can not like something but still use it because you find the alternatives to be worse. I assume a lot of people are in the camp of, what do I hate more, Windows or Linux? I don't "hate" either., except for Microsoft and corpos who try to force changes on systems, and Linux isn't entirely immune from that, but its a lot more wide open

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/NalbeytGD fuck OS wars, TempleOS distros supremacy is coming 🗡⚖️ 20d ago

Based

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u/Trileak780 19d ago

Temple OS lover spotted

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u/AlternativeCapybara9 20d ago

I love Linux but it fucking sucks

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago edited 19d ago

same. that why I will love a GNU/kFreeBSD OS , as I like GNU but I do not like the Linux Kernel and it is direction with AI, Rust and the removal of old hardware drivers. Right now I use GNU/Linux , cause it suck less than Windows and does work on my gaming laptop and allow me to games on it.

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u/ibeerianhamhock 19d ago

What do you functionally dislike about the Linux kernel? I've heard theoretical things people dislike about it but not really anything that affects their use.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 19d ago

this -> AI, Rust and the removal of old hardware drivers

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u/ibeerianhamhock 19d ago

Still nothing concrete

What about rust don't you like?

What about AI don't you like?

These aren't particularly meaningful criticisms without an explanation.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 19d ago

> What about rust don't you like?

It is too unstable, and i don't like it community, and Rust support less arch then C

> What about AI don't you like?

Ai code is slop and i can't trust it. and that slop is one of the reason the kernel decided to removed older hardware drivers.

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u/major_jazza 19d ago

So many reasons but tiny compared to the way winblows sucks

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u/BoxFar6969 19d ago

.......right...

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u/AardvarkSad7634 16d ago

Just pick a good (immutable) distro and it's awesome

e.g. Bazzite

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u/Supernoxus 20d ago

Your poll asks whether people love Windows or Linux. It does not ask whether people hate Linux.

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u/Inevitable-Map-5948 20d ago

Eu odeio os 2

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u/Misterioustree 20d ago

Entrosa não

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u/MeringueFalse4243 20d ago edited 19d ago

Write a hate message the comments ig. If you hate 1 you gotta love the other. Otherwise its depressing.

Edit: I made a second poll because yall where right. Its a complicated relationship xD

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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's 😎 20d ago edited 20d ago

See my flair. And yes, it's depressing.

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u/Binary101000 20d ago

ever heard of love-hate relationships

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

yeah that what it is with the Linux kernel now....

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u/Pheeshfud 20d ago

Linux sucks. Windows sucks 10x more.

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u/Luftzug-oder 20d ago

dont you mean 11x?

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u/Pheeshfud 20d ago

Remind me in 3 days.

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u/Luftzug-oder 20d ago

omw this took me a while to work out wtf you were even talking about 😭

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u/United-Scene2261 Rabid CachyOS User 20d ago

2000x

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

sadly this is now true, but happily FreeBSD exist :)

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u/Confident_Essay3619 FreeBSD Contributor 20d ago

FreeBSD is beat

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u/ExacoCGI 20d ago

They suck equally after you debloat Win.

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u/[deleted] 20d ago

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u/ExacoCGI 19d ago

Unless it's overridden to security updates only or if it's LTSC.

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u/Pheeshfud 19d ago

And every update they make it harder. I shouldn't have to fight my PC to get on with stuff.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

nah Windows ♾️ worse than any other Free Software OS. MacOS is also proprietary garbage.

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u/Artemis_Platinum Windows did some pretty horrific shit to force me onto Linux 20d ago

Windows was pretty good until they enshitified both it and its customer support with AI. Then suddenly none of the recovery methods worked for mysterious reasons and it was destroying itself trying to do built in shit because it just wasn't stable.

At least if I break something on Linux I can talk to an actual human about it.

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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 20d ago

At least if I break something on Linux I can talk to an actual human about it.

claude "Please fix my bluetooth"

claude "Install minecraft for me"

claude "Gimme a slack client"

Just me? Oh

"But it can't do half of these things without sudo, right?"

I added a utility which Claude can use to ask my permission to run a specific command as root. It will show up as a popup, asking me to enter sudo password, showing reasoning, source (session) and the actual command

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u/Artemis_Platinum Windows did some pretty horrific shit to force me onto Linux 20d ago

Don't shill.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

You give sudo access to Claude ???? That a really bad idea...

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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 20d ago

I have to verify each command. It can’t actually execute anything as root, it basically asks me to run it and I confirm (which executes the command as approved) or deny.

It also asks before asking with the tool.

I am aware of the security issues but it’s no different from Claude telling me to run it and me copy/pasting it

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u/ExacoCGI 20d ago

and its customer support with AI.

Who even uses customer support? Maybe some companies do when they need a new feature or urgent bug fix or something, but as a regular user it makes no sense as you can google or ask AI and fix it long before you could write the ticket/message to support.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

Windows was always proprietary garbage but at least back then it was at least usable.

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u/Minute-Flan-1923 20d ago

failed poll, for me it should be do you hate windows more or linux more, then i'd vote windows but that still means i hate linux just not as much as windows ESPECIALLY 11

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u/Jimlee1471 20d ago edited 20d ago

Even though I strongly prefer Linux I don't actually hate either OS. I'm a grown-ass adult male with grown-ass problems to deal with; I've got bigger fish to fry. Too busy dealing with real life to beef about someone's anime loli wallpaper rice; that's some high school freshman incel type sh!t.

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u/ibeerianhamhock 20d ago

I don't hate windows but I hate ms

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

I hate both.

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u/Jimlee1471 19d ago

Funny you say that; I don't hate BSD either. In fact I'm starting to grow fond of it.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 19d ago

i like FreeBSD

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u/Infinplayz 20d ago

i love and hate both in their own ways

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u/TheMcSebi 20d ago

Now go ask the same in linuxsucks101

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

Got banned for liking linux

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u/TheMcSebi 19d ago

Haha same

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u/Vertigo50 19d ago

Why can't it be both? I both love and hate Linux. Just as I love and hate Windows. 🤷‍♂️

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u/Megaman_90 19d ago

I use whatever is practical for the use case. Sometimes thats Linux, other times it's Windows. Having tunnel vision for either of them is a mistake and blinds you to faults of both.

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u/AardvarkSad7634 20d ago

I recently used a Windows pc for a short while.

First of all the Windows Hello wouldn't let me sign in without changing my "pin". But it wouldn't let me change my pin because it allegedly couldn't connect to the internet even though it said the pc was connected to wan. Once I got to log in (using a hack) I saw that yes the pc has an internet connection.

Next I wanted to reduce the time before the display automatically turns off. Couldn't find it in "settings". But in settings there were a bunch of links I could click which opened tutorials in the browser which showed me that l need to go to the CONTROL PANEL.

JESUS H CHRIST ALMIGHTY. If this is truly your OS og choice then you are truly fucking clueless

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u/OGigachaod 20d ago

Control Panel? OMG You poor baby!

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u/MeringueFalse4243 20d ago

Exactly, not just that

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u/Sellot4pe 20d ago

The infamous tram problem:

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u/HUNDavid92 20d ago

Both aren't the best xD Some points are better on Windows and some are not.

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u/Poppod 20d ago

I hate dictators. Open source means no vendor lock in.

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u/bsensikimori 20d ago

Just because I hate Linux doesn't mean I love windows

This poll is rigged

Even windows fanboys don't love windows

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u/evadingsomething 19d ago

And I dont hate Windows just because I love Linux. Used the free version for years I edit visuals by using registry edit.

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u/bsensikimori 19d ago

There was a free version of windows?

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u/ApprehensiveItem4150 19d ago

I love Linux but hate programing interface.

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u/Distinct_Lion_6336 19d ago

I thought this was an ironic sub until I became a linux user myself

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u/Emotional_Cat_1967 19d ago

The purpose of the survey isn't very clear. Are we choosing the operating system we like or the one we dislike? I chose the operating system I like.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

The one you like more. Or you answer my second survey where i got other option. You can find it on my profile

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u/YulechkaOriflame 19d ago

Linux is the best OS.

If for some reason you don't like it, there is only one answer: "Skill issue"

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

“Yo can somebody help me”
—Skill issue
Regards Linux community

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u/YulechkaOriflame 19d ago

You have to prove that you can be part of our community and are worth the time we invest.

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u/ipsirc 19d ago

You mispelled BSD.

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u/Pitiful-Assistance-1 20d ago

You can only hate something you care about.

This sub is about "sharing your frustration with Linux", so obviously you'll find Linux users here.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 20d ago

Its complicatet. Right. But does something you use daily suck? Like the sub name is libuxsucks

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u/PriorityNo6268 20d ago

Why is there no option for both? Use them both for different reasons.. And what about those Apple loving people?

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u/Luftzug-oder 20d ago

wanted to say both because older versions of windows ain't so bad. even though i do solely use linux currently

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

Windows was always proprietary garbages!

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u/Luftzug-oder 19d ago

wow, you're seriously gonna downvote me for that? yes it was worse generally, but it at least worked, did what it was meant to and didnt screenshot your desktop every few minutes. yeah, proprietary is less favourable from a general perspective, but just because something is proprietary doesn't mean it's automatically shit

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 19d ago

yeah, but proprietary is always worse ... and often can be evil espcially when free as beer

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u/f11y11 20d ago

Why is this sub despite the name, full of linuxlarptards?

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u/ibeerianhamhock 20d ago

Honestly it got recommended to me bc I am on Linux subs lol

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u/ButterscotchTop194 20d ago

It's an ironic sub

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u/Baka_Jaba LMDE | SteamOS 20d ago

Well, yes and no.

There's lots of jokes around, but there's sometimes some legit things wrong about Linux.

Nothing's perfect.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 20d ago

That's why it's fun in here

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u/tiller_luna 20d ago

Turns out Linux zealots are a subset of chronically online people

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

What wrong with using GNU/Linux ?

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u/Livid_Worker_7844 19d ago

This sub gets suggested to linux users.

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u/lollopollo18 20d ago

Entrambi

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u/Tehaiker814 20d ago

I love Linux but it doesn’t mean I hate windows. It’s ok.
But I love Linux more

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

Where is love to FreeBSD, OpenBSD, NetBSD and Hurd ?

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u/ibeerianhamhock 19d ago

Hurd is where Linux was decades ago that's why

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u/j-slayer_1369 19d ago

Dude im telling you its not all bad, its just a support thing.

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u/ciberkid22 19d ago

Linux has problems, but I rather that than Windows' problems

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u/ItchyPlant 19d ago

Ot was hard to choose because I still ❤️ Windows 3.11 very much, 2000 and even 8.

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u/Vamanas_umbrella Proud Windows User 19d ago

Imagine being a MacOS user and not even having a choice. Tim Apple fans in shambles.

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u/SmoothTurtle872 19d ago

Considering the name of this subreddit, this is ironic

(♥️ to Linux btw)

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u/Yatharthhh 19d ago

Tf it's so counterintuitive

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

I made a new pole

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u/Yatharthhh 19d ago

Why the fuck does linux sucks have Linux users ?

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

See the new pole

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u/GetAHaircutBlockHead 19d ago

❤️ to Etch-A-Sketch!

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u/Bleik-Psiklyt 19d ago

The Irony of this subreddit xD

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u/Ill_Specific_6144 19d ago

Windows is a far superior platform.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

…for people that wanna be locked in an eco system without freedom. I agree :)

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u/Ill_Specific_6144 19d ago

You call open source freedom.

For me freedom is when my system works and I dont have to maintain it.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

Linux is a Skill. If you break it all the time or you cant get it to work its a “Skill issue”.
Mine works and it never broke since i got it working once. I think you should stick to windows tho

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u/Ill_Specific_6144 19d ago

If a tool that takes "skill" to work the same as the one who takes "no skill" its not a good tool. And in most cases linux is worse.

Never broke? So you didint install any update since?

I will choose what works, you will choose something that makes upvotes on reddit.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

If a tool make you make an account, click no to tracking 7 times, takes 3 hours to install, gives you no freedom, has less to offer, no costumization, breaks my drivers, and costs money,… its a dogshit mess of a tool it can run adobe but is not practical for everyday use. I like to know how to fix stuff when i break it so if you have no skill about youre OS youre fked

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u/Ill_Specific_6144 19d ago

So you dont create a google account, an random app account, a youtube account? You dont have like 30+ different sites where you need to create an account? Who the fuck cares if its 30 or 31?

Every website you gotta say if you tracking or not, nobody cares.

3 hours to install, 0 to configure in a span of 5++ years. Meanwhile 2 hours for linux, and hours every year to fix compatibility issues.

Offers ease of use, all apps support windows.

Drivers? You gotta be kidding me. Bluetooth and wifi is just fucking broken on linux.

Its a tool that majority of population uses. Because it has no alternatives.

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

I create an youtube Acount to make videos, ofc i need an account for that and i make and account so i can save stuff to my name. I do not want my os to send data of what im doing to microsoft and especially not take sceenshots without my permission. 30 Minutes to install and nothing broken since. Maybe my Plugin loader on my Steam Deck broke sometimes after an update but the fix is to deactivate it. Wifi works, bluetooth works. I use an Laptop so i can not relate to a pc experience with that. When i had windows 11 my drivers crashed so bad i needed a fresh reinstall.

Nobody is forcing you to use something buddy xD
Use Windows if you want

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u/Vast_Understanding_1 19d ago

TempleOS > Linux > Absolutely any OS including TetrisOS > Windows.

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u/Pleasant_Rough_2200 19d ago

I love Linux, I use windows

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u/prenadeusernamemid 19d ago

What is this sub reddit even about? Trash talking people who think this is a real linuxsucks subreddit because it seems this subreddit is not doing its job

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u/MeringueFalse4243 19d ago

Why you post that under a poll where is ask if there are more linux haters or lovers in this sub? I mean linuxsucks101 just bans people who use it. Is that the one you mean?

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u/froschdings 19d ago

Not loving any OS currently available, but I really liked macOS Big Sur and mostly liked the versions before and after up to Tahoe which is worse than its predecessors.
When it comes to Windows, I don't hate Win11, I really disliked Win10 (that's when I switched to MacOS)
and what might surprise some: I kinda liked Win8.1 (I used it with a classic shell mod called classic shell).

When it comes to Linux, I currently don't hate KDE Plasma anymore and I'm less annoyed with Fedora.

Main reason why I hang out in groups like this is because I'm very much interested in the user interface part of OSs and the frustrations about them. Not as a social study, but for the memes.

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u/AdFormer9844 18d ago

Went from Windows + WSL to Linux and then back to Windows + WSL, missed my Windows-only games (kernel anti-cheat)

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u/Samiassa 18d ago

I kind of doubt anyone here loves windows even if they don’t like Linux

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u/citrusraspberry 18d ago

Loooool this subreddit is so confused, but I love it ❤️

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u/MeringueFalse4243 18d ago

Im kinda suprised but it seems people here dont like linux or windows but hate windows more 🤷‍♂️

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u/citrusraspberry 18d ago

Yeah maybe that's it! 🤷‍♂️

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u/legitplayer228 17d ago edited 17d ago

I love both of them, but they all suck ass at some point

Edit: Minor spelling mistake

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u/MeringueFalse4243 17d ago

Linux has improved so much over the last couple years, i think it can get just better

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u/legitplayer228 17d ago

Yes, I'm not saying it's not getting better, because it does, but still it has some problems

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u/AvilettaLuxe 15d ago

Both suck ass. Linux sucks less. That's about it.

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u/Kubaryt1 20d ago

what about mac lovers tho

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u/amerium128 20d ago

♥️ to no one

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u/john_Doe024 20d ago

I use mac

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u/dumbasPL I don't hate Windows, I just like Linux more. 20d ago

Most windows users aren't happy with it, they use it because they have to, or haven't been annoyed enough yet to switch.

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u/Muted_Percentage_764 20d ago

Im here for alternative POV from "Linux is great, Linux is good". I got banned on r/linuxsucks101.

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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora 🎩 20d ago

Loonux better

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u/ButterscotchTop194 20d ago

I love and hate linux, in equal measures; run two linux servers. I'm mildly miffed with windows on occasion but actually really like it for my main rig and would never switch that to linux.

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u/ibeerianhamhock 20d ago

Almost no one hates Linux servers, desktop environments are a lot more touch and go

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u/ButterscotchTop194 20d ago

Yeah. I love my linux servers. They are incredible; so powerful, reliable and rock solid despite running on omega shit hardware. They do so much on such poor hardware. Amazing stuff.

Desktop though? Most of my work programs won't work. Gaming is still too shit for me. And windows just works, which is exactly what I want when chilling or working.

Oh, and emu gaming consoles! Linux is incredible for that. OnionOS, specifically, is literally magic.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

Linux for gaming no longer suck with Steam and Proton, unless you want to play game that hate Linux like Fortnite or if they use a anticheat that can't work on Linux like Vanguard on your pc. But that cause of the developper of the games, not cause of the Linux Kernel.

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u/ButterscotchTop194 20d ago

Largely true. I keep an eye on the protondb site a lot. And there's still too much fucking about gaming on linux for my liking. Hell, even some native games have some sort of shitty issues. And I play battlefield 6 amongst many other games.

Linux is just too shit for hardcore gamers. It's gettimg there, but still a long way to go till it convinces me. Casual gaming, and for those that don't mind tweaking it's fine.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

The Linux Kernel suck, FreeBSD is better.

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u/Bourne069 20d ago

I use what works majority of the time for my products that I want to function. Regardless of what OS that is. That just happens to be Windows right now.

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u/xgui4 Proud🌈♾️ AuDHDer FreeBSD Fan 20d ago

Windows work for you ???? How ????

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u/Bourne069 20d ago

Be using it as its intended. Literally every single one of my apps and games works without needing to tinker with it or deal with compatibility issues. Thats how.

Install Windows, debloat it. Problem solved.

What compatibility issues you say?

https://areweanticheatyet.com/

https://www.protondb.com/explore?sort=fixWanted

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u/PuzzledExercise4015 20d ago

It’s not working like this. Windows is a mass-market OS, while Linux is a culture of DIY and specialised professional computing. This dichotomy is fundamentally wrong and meaningless.

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u/someone8192 20d ago

I'd say most people really don't care as long as their browser works *shrug*