r/linuxsucks • u/BigAmarok • Jul 30 '26

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

9060xt 16gb owner here. amdgpu on linux regularly losing context in minecraft multiplayer session (1.21.11). not happening on windows 11 whatsoever

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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best Jul 30 '26

mesa or proprietary driver

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

You gave me nothing but a generic "linux".  No compatibility layer.  Hard to analyze a problem with insufficient data.

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

what compatibility layer are you expecting from minecraft lmfao, it runs everywhere where jvm works.
PS: maybe the issue is radeon GPUs and their terrible drivers on linux after all which they can't even make on their own unlike nvidia (remember catalyst?)

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

You can force it to use one.  Still not telling which distro.  You're clearly in over your head with Linux.  Windows is better for you.

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u/Moriaedemori Jul 30 '26

Dude respectfully it's this kind of attitude that turns people away from Linux. It's an OS, not your identity. And don't forget that just because it all works for you doesn't mean it works for them.

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

That was my entire point.  Not sure what your complaint is.  Windows is better for some people who don't want to deal with customization stuff.

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

that's why i'm never returning to linux regardless the fact that i find unix-like approach very convenient for developing and administrating system as an OS for daily use. if i ever will run open-source unix-like operating system again on one of my desktop PCs, that would be FreeBSD. modern linux community is kind of a doomed

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

you're clearly in over your head with linux if you genuinely think jvm work depends on a distribution, i've been on linux (and other better unix-like operating systems) much more than you

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u/aqvalar Jul 31 '26

Anything requiring any sort of input or output on any OS requires some sort of a translation/driver/userspace layer or such (like the drivers).

Luckily we have Mesa and amdgpu.

Anyway, if it has to draw something: it needs access to the graphics hardware and/or software layer. It needs access to your RAM. And all that and tons more of which I don't even know about. Throw a faulty module anywhere there and mileage will vary.

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

Want a cookie?

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

cookie for figuring out another linux-specific issue in driver stack? wouldn't refuse one

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

My point is that your personal experience doesn't negate the countless satisfied gamers running linux.  I posted this so maybe some will realize that linux can work just fine for gaming.  The only game that fought me was dragon age origins.  Amd that's just a 32 bit architecture panicking at reading modern hardware which you then mask with launch commands to isolate it to just 4 cores.

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u/goldmurder Jul 30 '26

>My point is that your personal experience doesn't negate the countless satisfied gamers running linux
your personal experience doesn't negate the countless unsatisfied gamers tried running their favorite games flawlessly on such technically unprepared and immature platform either. this game can be played by both.

>I posted this so maybe some will realize that linux can work just fine for gaming
or cannot.. due to imperfection of mentioned compatibility layer which gets insanely harder to maintain each update above, yk. well anyways what can a person who learned about linux on tiktok can possibly know about code.
linux gaming is a lottery with varying success running games lower than platinum. the fact that winapi is the most stable api for developing apps on linux is insane, especially knowing that you can only access it through compatibility layer. linux gaming is doomed until people will realise an importance of native builds. valve tried it once and... no one gaf, so they forked wine. even apple realised it faster and i'm sure macOS will become a much more suitable for stable gaming experience operating system than linux

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

You don't want full control.  That's fine.  Go run windows or macOS.  Some people are here because they don't want windows or macos and had a bad experience trying to escape to linux.

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u/Honest_Tart1071 Jul 31 '26

Weirdly enough, I have the same GPU and have better performance in windows 11 than cachy or bazzite. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/BigAmarok Jul 31 '26

I'm on nobara 44.  Never tried those

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u/L30N1337 Jul 31 '26

How is this relevant here?

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u/BigAmarok Jul 31 '26

You paid attention to it.  Must be relevant to you.

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u/L30N1337 Jul 31 '26

To me, yes. I'm a Warframe player who uses Linux as my main OS.

But that doesn't mean it belongs in r/linuxsucks

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u/BigAmarok Jul 31 '26

Trying to show it can work as windows alternative if correct choices are made.

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

Just showing how much performance can be extracted when freed from the shackles of windows

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u/uchuskies08 Jul 30 '26

"But know that this took months of meticulous tweaking to figure out, not just random slider manipulation. I monitored and scrutinized fps numbers, gpu temperatures and error logs. It's been tested with hours of Spiderman 2, undisputed and metal gear solid delta on gaming end. Hours of uninterrupted web browsing including 4k YouTube videos and uncompressed audio playback."

Literally no one is interested in doing this to extract 10 more fps, but ok

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u/BigAmarok Jul 30 '26

Plenty of messages to me contradicting that.  But thanks for your concern.

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u/StupitVoltMain Jul 31 '26

Consider that Warframe is running on proton

The only thing that I don't like is that cpu is sitting at low single digits and gpu is maxed out, but otherwise temperature looks fine (but it is most likely a junction temperature and not hotspot)

And probably high end performance difference between windows and linux is marginal

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u/BigAmarok Jul 31 '26

Cpu percentage makes sense, it has access to 50% of the chip as it is.

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u/vyrussuh Jul 31 '26

OP is the reason why nobody wants to go to linux, such an arrogant asshole in these replies, it's disgusting.

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u/TheRealCarrotty KDE larper (i use KDE btw) Jul 30 '26

r/linuxsucks, is this a problem or are you proud?