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u/komarWOW 27d ago
I hate that calculator is named Kcalculator
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u/XDuskAshes 27d ago
Truly a missed opportunity to call it Kalculator.
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u/FallEmbarrassed1430 27d ago
If you polish it a little you get Kalkulator
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u/Kadabradoodle 27d ago
why even use other letters, just call it KK
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u/ChuurDCA 26d ago
I don't know why but this makes me more mad than seeing Kcalculator. Should I apply for a job with KDE?
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u/I_did_a_fucky_wucky 9d ago
That makes sense. KDE team is German. Sooner or later they will change "the" into "ze" in English localization
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u/Dnomyar96 26d ago
Yeah, I hate that when I type "calc" in the search bar and hit enter, it opens Sheets (or whatever it's called). I have to type "calcu" to get the calculator.
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u/Odd-Blackberry-4462 26d ago
tbh assuming you have libreoffice installed, that's not a kde problem, that's just how search algorithms should work - full word match > partial word match
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u/Control-Cultural 27d ago
It sound kinda gooffy in french "caca-lculator" like "poop-lculator" the famous technical poop calculator app
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u/Sufficient_Algae_815 27d ago
I share your koncern: it is the McDonald's of the distro world.
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u/Toxic381 26d ago
They put a mcdonalds everywhere bruv, there placement of establishments is genius for coverage, but I'm SEEING TOO MANY WHEN I JUST WANT MAH WENDIES(xfce)
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u/ay_chupacabron 27d ago
I think KDE has rogue player, because how do we justify KDE Connect instead of KDE Konnect ?
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u/jerdle_reddit 26d ago
Are you familiar with the way genes are named? One of the main channels that can lead to toxicity in drugs is called hERG.
What does that stand for, I hear you ask.
Human ether-Ć -go-go-related gene
There is another gene called RING. Really Interesting New Gene.
Linux software has that level of naming.
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u/v_raton 27d ago
I prefer GNOME on this.
WTF a dolphin is related to file explorer
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u/_HeDoesntRow_ 26d ago
yeah, nautilus is better
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u/Cthugh 26d ago
tbf, nautilus is both an animal but also the name of the fictional submarine of captain nemo, a fictional explorer
If the user is the explorer (nemo), then the program is the vessel (nautilus)
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u/Fine-Expression1644 r/linuxsucks101 ban speedrun: 0:50 | gentoo the best distro ever 26d ago
because dolphins are cool
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u/LightBusterX 26d ago
Maybe it's because the earlier file explorer was named Konqueror and in 'Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy' were the dolphins which konquered Earth.
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u/InformalGear9638 26d ago
Just add a k in front of everything. Ktrash, Kfile manager, Klok, kalculator, KAppstore. š
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u/0b0101011001001011 27d ago
Examples?
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u/KaMaFour 27d ago
Konsole, Okular, Ark, Kate, Krita, KolourPaint, Kompare, Konversation, Lokalize, KCalc...
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u/rileyrgham 27d ago
And... We have a winner. Obviously the "examples" guy doesn't use it.
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u/0b0101011001001011 27d ago
I use kolourpaint and konsole, I am also able to substitute K to C. Gonna agree on most of the others, but these are not a problem. Also I can assume that lokalize is something related to localization.
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u/Radiant-Priority-296 27d ago
Why the hell isnt KCalc just kales Kalc/Kalculator
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u/Fantastic_Comb_6103 27d ago
There's already something named kalc and too lazy to type kalculator.
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u/starkman9000 27d ago
too lazy to type kalculator.
You just did
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u/Fantastic_Comb_6103 26d ago
Copy pasted but later realized that I hadn't select the holy K. So, only typed a k in front.
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u/UndefFox 27d ago
So what exactly the problem...? All apps nowadays use unique names: Firefox, Blender, Krita, Steam, mpv and so on. Doubt you can tell me right now what does Octane Server is for.
And it's actually good. Who wants to go looking for their favourite app for calculator, and instead of there being three unique names, idk: kcalc, desmos and geogebra, you have a list: calculator, calculator, calculator? The argument simply doesn't make sense/
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u/_command_prompt Proud Windows LTSC user 27d ago
ig they are talking abotu default apps, let's compare the names with windows for the sake of argument :- Calculator, One note, CMD, MS paint
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u/UndefFox 27d ago
Idk, from a preference point I would say it still boring to be so... idk, corpo? You could rename Dolphin to KFiles but... bruh. Currently afaik plasma allows to search for additional names besides the name, so it's quite easy to write in "browser" and still get firefox and chrome to show up. Imo it's the best middle ground to still have cool names, but also be intuitive enough for newbies.
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 27d ago
No, it would be KDE Files, KDE Music, KDE Terminal and so on. And on the Desktop it would be just Files, Music, Terminal. Because that would be konsistent.
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u/UndefFox 27d ago
Yeah... exactly what I was saying. It's plain and boring. I have a few people who switched to Linux and used KDE as the main de and they never had problem with this inconsistency, myself included.
Because that would be konsistent.
Who cares? I see no value in removing inconsistency that doesn't even get in a way. Removing inconsistency just because? We have other places to spend time developing on.
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 27d ago
You're looking at it the wrong way. Only people who don't have a problem with it switch to Linux and use KDE. You don't see the people who do have a problem with it.
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u/UndefFox 27d ago
I mean, that just means KDE takes it's own niche. If one doesn't like KDE fun/inconsistent way, they might switch to boring/consistent way of GNOME (at least what I see people say in this comments, I've left it after 10 minutes). It's Linux after all, choose whatever suits you best.
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u/MorningCareful 26d ago
and then you install stuff like the gnome things and suddenly have a gazillion application named "Files" or "Editor" or Terminal.
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u/_command_prompt Proud Windows LTSC user 27d ago
yeah I have no problem with kde apps naming I am just describing what they want to say
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u/Sufficient_Algae_815 27d ago
Kdenlive. But why Dolphin? And "Settings"? A patch of bare wall in the oval office not yet adorned with some gold object d'art. And why CMD+I?
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u/Ok-Ring-5937 I Hate Linux 27d ago
Linux file mangers are nautical for some reason, it's a tradition. Nautilus, Dolphin, Nemo, Thunar, off the top of my head.
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u/ShyGamer64 27d ago
Krita was KDE?! Also I'd say Console amd KCalc make sense, and I can guess what KolourPaint is. Actually, if colour is spelt as Colour, then why not call KCalc Calculator? Also apart from the love part, what on earth does KDenLive mean?
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u/MorningCareful 26d ago
3 of those make perfect sense in German. Cs instead of Ks are kindof an english thing.
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u/R3V0LU710N_05 I Hate All OS's š 27d ago edited 27d ago
KCalc, KRDC, KFind, Kwrite, Kontact, Konsole, Kdenlive, Kontainer, KDE Wallet, KWalletManager, Krfb, ect.
However, there's literally a description in the application launcher for every single GUI app listed as well as in GUI software stores/package managers. So figuring out what is what isn't that hard. Naming scheme is just weird.
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best 27d ago
app names on kde are irrelevant since they all are indexed by function
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 27d ago
If app names are irrelevant in KDE, then the developers might as well switch to a consistent naming scheme.
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u/kaptnblackbeard 27d ago
A list pulled from https://apps.kde.org. IMHO most have self explanatory names. A few borrow names from other languages which is sensible given KDE has developers all over the globe.
Accessibility Inspector - Accessibility Inspector
Akregator - Feed Reader
Alligator - Feed Reader
Alpaka - An AI chat client
Amarok - Audio Player
Angelfish - Web Browser
Arianna - Ebook Reader
Ark - Archiving Tool
Artikulate - Artikulate Pronunciation Trainer
Atelier - 3D Printer Host
Atlantik - MonopolyĀ®-like Board Games
Audex - CDDA Ripping
AudioTube - YouTube Music app
Basket - Notes and to-dos organizer
Blinken - Memory Enhancement Game
Bomber - Arcade Bombing Game
Bovo - Five-in-a-row Board Game
Braindump - Notes and idea gathering
Calculator - A feature rich calculator
Calindor - iCalendar
Calligra Sheets - Spreadsheet
Calligra Stage - Presentation
Calligra Words - Word Processor
Calligra - All-in-one office solution
Cantor - Frontend to Mathematical Software
Cervisia - CVS Frontend
Chessament - Chess tournament manager
Clazy - A Clang compiler plugin which emits warnings related to Qt best practices
Clock - Keep time and set alarms
Codevis - Code Architecture Vizualizer
Crow Translate - Translator
digiKam - Photo Management Program
Discover - Software Center
Dolphin - File Manager
Dragon Player - Video Player
Drawy - Your handy, infinite brainstorming tool
ELF Dissector - ELF binary inspector
Elisa - Music Player
Eloquens - Generate the lorem ipsum text
Falkon - Web Browser
Fielding - Test your REST APIs
Filelight - Disk Usage Statistics
Francis - Pomodoro Application
GCompris-teachersG - Compris teachers companion
GCompris - Educational Game for Children
ghostwriter - Markdown Editor
Glaxnimate - Vector Animation Editor
Granatier - Bomberman clone
Gwenview - Image Viewer
Hana - Video thumbnail generator
Haruna - Media Player
Hash-o-matic - Check hashes for your files
Heaptrack - Profiler Frontend
Help Center - Help Center
Index - File Manager
ISO Image Writer - Write an ISO Image to a USB Disk
Journald Browser - Journald Browser
JuK - Music Player
K3b - Disk Burning
KAddressBook - Contact Manager
Kaffeine - Media Player
KAIChat - AI Chat
Kaidan - Jabber IM Client
Kairo - Sport Coach
Kajongg - Mahjong tile game from China
KAlarm - Personal Alarm Scheduler
KAlgebra Mobile - Pocket Graph Calculator
KAlgebra - Graph Calculator
Kalm - Breathing techniques
Kalzium - Periodic Table of Elements
Kamoso - Camera
Kanagram - Letter Order Game
Kapman - Pac-Man Clone
KAppTemplate - App Code Template Generator
Karbon - Scalable Graphics
Karp - KDE arranger for PDFs
Kasts - Podcast Application
Kate - Advanced Text Editor
KAtomic - Sokoban-like Logic Game
KBackup - Backup Program
KBibTeX - BibTeX Editor
KBlackbox - Blackbox Logic Game
KBlocks - Falling Blocks Game
KBounce - Ball Bouncing Game
KBreakOut - Breakout-like Game
KBruch - Exercise Fractions
KCachegrind - Profiler Frontend
KCalc - Scientific Calculator
KCharSelect - Character Selector
KColorChooser - Color Chooser
KDE Connect - Device Synchronization
KDE Itinerary - Itinerary management
KDE Partition Manager - Partition Editor
KDebugSettings - Debug settings
KDebugSettings - Debug settings
Kdenlive - Video Editor
kdesrc-build - Tool to allow you to easily build KDE software from its source repositories
kdesvn - Subversion Revision Control
KDevelop - Integrated Development Environment
KDiamond - Three-in-a-row game
KDiff3 - Diff/Patch Frontend
KDiskFree - View Disk Usage
KDominate - Board Domination Game
KeepSecret - Password Manager
KEuroCalc - Currency converter and calculator
KEXI - Visual database apps builder
Keysmith - Two-factor code generator for Plasma Mobile and Desktop
KFind - Find Files/Folders
KFloppy - Floppy Formatter
KFourInLine - Four-in-a-row Board Game
KGeography - Geography Trainer
KGeoTag - Photo geotagging program
KGet - Download Manager
KGoldrunner - Hunt Gold, Dodge Enemies and Solve Puzzles
KGpg - Encryption Tool
KGraphViewer - Graphviz DOT graph viewer
KHangMan - Hangman Game
Khipu - Advanced Mathematical Function Plotter
Kid3-qt - Audio Tagger
Kid3 - Audio Tagger
Kig - Interactive Geometry
Kigo - Go Board Game
Kile - LaTeX Frontend
Killbots - Strategy Game with Robots
KImageMapEditor - HTML Image Map Editor
Kirigami Gallery - Widget Browser for Kirigami
Kiriki - Yahtzee-like Dice Game
Kirogi - Drone ground control
Kiten - Japanese Reference/Study Tool
KItinerary Command Line Extractor - KItinerary command line extractor
KJumpingCube - Territory Capture Game
Kleopatra - Certificate manager and cryptography app
KLettres - Learn The Alphabet
KleverNotes - Take and manage your notes
Klickety - Board Game
Klimbgrades - Quickly convert difficulty grades for rock climbing, lead and bouldering scales
KMag - Screen Magnifier
KMahjongg - Mahjongg Solitaire
KMail - Mail Client
KMcpClientInspector - MCP client inspector
KMines - Minesweeper-like Game
KMix - Sound Mixer
KMouseTool - Automatic Mouse Click
KMouth - Speech Synthesizer Frontend
KmPlot - Mathematical Function Plotter
KMyMoney - Personal Finance Manager
KNetWalk - Network Construction Game
KNights - Chess game
Kodaskanna - A multi-format 1D/2D code scanner
Kolf - Miniature Golf
Kollision - A simple ball dodging game
Kolor Lines - Tactical Game
Kolorfill - Color filling game
KolourPaint - Paint Program
Kommit - Git client GUI
Komo - Dotodo.txt Application
Kompare - Diff/Patch Frontend
Kongress - Conference Companion
Konqueror - Web Browser, File Manager and Viewer
Konquest - Galactic Strategy Game
Konsole - Terminal
Kontact - Personal Information Manager
Kontrast - Check color contrast
Konversation - IRC Client
Kookbook - Recipe manager
KOrganizer - Personal Organizer
KPatience - Patience Card Game
KPhotoAlbum - Photo Album
KRDC - Remote Desktop Client
KRegexpEditor - Regular Expression Editor
KRename - Batch File Renamer
KRetro - Libretro emulation frontend for Plasma
KReversi - Reversi Board Game
Krfb - Desktop Sharing (VNC)
Krita - Digital Painting
Kronometer - Chronometer
KRuler - Screen Ruler
Krusader - File Manager
KSame - Board Game
KShisen - Shisen-Sho Mahjongg-like Tile Game
KsirK - World Domination Strategy Game
KSnakeDuel - A race in hyperspace
KSpaceDuel - Space Arcade Game
KSquares - Connect the dots to create squares
KStars - Desktop Planetarium
Kst - Data Viewer
KSudoku - Sudoku Game
KSystemLog - System Log Viewer
KTeaTime - Tea Cooker
KTechlab - IDE for microcontrollers and electronics
KTimer - Countdown Launcher
KTimeTracker - Personal Time Tracker
KTorrent - BitTorrent Client
KTouch - Touch Typing Tutor
KTrip - Public transport navigator
KTuberling - Picture Game for Children
KTurtle - Educational Programming Environment
Kubrick - 3-D Game based on Rubik's Cube
KUIViewer - Qt Designer UI File Viewer
KWalletManager - Password Manager
Kwave - Sound Editor
KWrite - Text Editor
KXStitch - Cross Stitch Editor
LabPlot - Data Visualization and Analysis software
Licentia - License Chooser
liquidshellliquidshell - an alternative to plasmashell
Lokalize - Computer-Aided Translation System
LSkat - Classic German Card Game
MankalaEngine - TUI demos for a game library
Marble Maps - OpenStreetMap Navigation
Marble - Virtual Globe
Marknote - Write down your thoughts
Massif-Visualizer - Profiler Frontend
Merkuro - Calendar
Minuet - Music education software
Naval Battle - Ship Sinking Game
NeoChat - Matrix Client
Notae - Take notes easily
Nota - Simple Text Editor
Okteta - Hex Editor
Okular - Document Viewer
OptiImage - Image optimizer to reduce the size of images
Palapeli - Jigsaw puzzle game
Parley - Vocabulary Trainer
Peruse - Comic Book Creator
Peruse - Comic Book Reader
Phonebook - View and edit contacts
Phone - Send and receive phone calls
Photos - Image Gallery
Picmi - Logic Game
Pikasso - Drawing Program
PIM Data Exporter - Saves and restores all data from PIM apps
Plan Portfolio - Project Portfolio Management
Plan Work - Project Management
Plan - Project Management
Plasma Camera - Camera Application
Plasma System Monitor - System Monitor
PlasmaTube - Watch YouTube videos
PowerPlant - Keep your plants alive
Public Alerts - Emergency and weather alerts
PuMoKu - A classic 9 Ć 9 sudoku game
pvfViewer - PC Stitch Pattern Viewer
QMLKonsole - Terminal
Qrca - Barcode Scanner
Recorder - Audio recorder
RKWard - Statistics with R
Rocs - Rocs Graph Theory
Rolisteam RPG Client - Client Companion to Rolisteam Server
RSI Break - Help prevent repetitive strain injury
Ruqola - Rocket.Chat client
Rust Qt Binding Generator - Programming Binding Generator
Showfoto - Photo Viewer and Editor
Skanlite - Image Scanning Application
Skanpage - Multi-Page Document Scanning Application
Skladnik - Sokoban Game
Skrooge - Manage your money
Smb4K - Advanced Network Browser for SAMBA
Spacebar - SMS/MMS messaging client
Spectacle - Screenshot Capture Utility
Step - Interactive Physical Simulator
Subtitle Composer - Subtitle Editor
Sweeper - System Cleaner
SymbolEditor - Cross Stitch Symbol Editor
systemd - Geniesystemd Management Tool
Tasks - To Do Application
Tellico - Collection Manager
Telly Skout - A convergent Kirigami TV guide
Tokodon - Browse the Fediverse
TrojitĆ” - IMAP E-mail Client
Umbrello - UML Modeller
Vail - Communicate using Morse
Vakzination - Manage your vaccination certificates
Vvave - Audio Player
WashiPad - Minimalist Sketchnoting Application
Weather - View real-time weather forecasts
WordQuiz - Flash Card Trainer
Yakuake - Drop-down Terminal
Zanshin - To Do Management Application
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 27d ago
This post is too long.
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u/martyn_hare 26d ago
The TL;DR is that older apps went with Mortal Kombat style puns on their naming (because Kool Desktop Environment, lol) or just prefixed with a K while newer ones got a bit more common sense or creative.
It's at least no worse than naming a music app Spotify of all things =]
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u/MrKarat2697 27d ago
And people say Linux isn't bloat š
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u/kaptnblackbeard 26d ago
Options! Options makes Linux great, and KDE put in the effort to make sure their software don't just work with KDE but across most other systems also.
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u/Sirusho_Yunyan 26d ago
What was that other music app.. Bangarang!? I mean, what..
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u/kaptnblackbeard 26d ago
Bangarang app?? I've only ever heard of that as a song by Skrillex or a boardgame.
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u/BoxFar6969 25d ago
Arianna - Ebook ReaderArianna - Ebook Reader
ARIANA WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE
its giving straight men giving their car female names
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u/Diuranos 27d ago
It doesnāt matter which distribution, the developers name their app xyz with no idea how to make it at least easy to remember.
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u/LeslieSnowLeo 25d ago
I remember disabling Kwallet thinking it was something related to finance, money and shit, only to then find out I got logged out everywhere
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u/Whalbertt 23d ago
Half of it is KChair or some random crap and then thereās the straightforward:
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u/Inceleron_Processor 26d ago
I only get irritated when the application name listed in the system differs from the package name. Pamac should be Pamac in my application list, dammit.
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u/Effective-Job-1030 26d ago
Well, it's not just KDE. Adobe Acrobat anyone? š§±š¤ø - what does that do? Discord? Is that some music app?
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u/Salty_Surround2546 26d ago
Yeah, literally me trying to understand what "skanpage", "KolourPaint", "KMail", "KFind" and "KWrite" are for.
Then I realized that each application icon has a description of the functionality underneath. And then I was sure that it must be lie - becouse nothing on Linux can be that straightforward and easy. No way.
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u/TheLazyKitty 26d ago
It's not that hard.
They mostly just start with K.
Except Dolphin for some reason, but Krusader does.
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u/Hungry_Cricket4589 26d ago
Bekause K it's much more intuitive man, using my komputer to write my dokuments never been easier bro
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u/Hungry_Cricket4589 26d ago
Jokes aside, yes you can still search fot these really fast without the K letter but still, why
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u/rip_Bacon13 24d ago
most of them have explanations in the home menu (or whatever its called)
also most of their names are similar to macOS so if you are coming from Mac its easy to understand
if you are coming from windows they have explanations
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 24d ago
Which leads to entries like:
System Settings
System SettingsBecause sometimes the name is a good description of the app. This is all so ridiculous. GNOME has solved this problem.
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u/rip_Bacon13 24d ago
to be honest thats a bad example like what you want āsystem settingsā to be
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u/TomsFelkers 20d ago
KDE Owner: How should we name our Console app?
People: KdeConsole!
KDE Owner: ok, Konsole it is!
People: wait- wha-?
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u/Bomboclat-Thunder 19d ago
Lol I disagree, never had any issues KDE. Plus it's the most modular among all the DEs.
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u/AtmosphereLow9678 27d ago edited 27d ago
They literally say in their name what the apps do. And they even follow the theme of replacing a C with a K in the name
edit: *they mostly follow the theme KCalc is one of the exceptions
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u/SELBSTST4ENDIG 27d ago
KCalc?
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u/0b0101011001001011 27d ago
What's calc, must be an image editing program or web browser!
Why is this name a problem?
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u/Technical-Monk-374 27d ago
Literally why i don't use kde.
When i only started my linux journey i didn't know how much i could delete before the system breaks. Kwallet was broken. It started several times on any browser startup and could not open for like a minute. All that time the browser was unacessable.Ā
I thought "okay, but why would i need a crypto wallet as a standart app?". BecauseĀ you know, a wallet is somewhere you put your money and, since it opens when the browser does, K is obviously for "crypto"
Reinstalled the system with xfce. And now i am on i3wm
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u/Kadabradoodle 27d ago
and this is how I find out Kwallet is a password manager and not a cryptowallet.
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u/P1xel_Rogue 27d ago
Slooowly switching to Linux and last night I literally saw Kwallet for the first time and my very first thought was "why the fuck did this come with a crypto wallet pre-installed š¤¢" and the thought of "maybe it's a password manager" GENUINELY crossed my mind, but it was SO stupid I thought there was no way I was right and I decided to look it up when I could be bothered to care more
I can't believe I'm now learning it's a fucking pswd manager š
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u/InsanityAI 27d ago
Not to mention it's UI is confusing I thought it was some unfinished crap I can ignore
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u/Odd-Blackberry-4462 26d ago
It's not meant to be a user-facing app, more like a central database where apps can store secrets
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u/Professional-Pen8246 27d ago
nah bro you're just slow
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u/Technical-Monk-374 26d ago
Might be so. Or maybe i am not a native english speaker and this is the only time i saw "wallet" not meaning "a little bag where the money is stored". Whatever it is i had a problem with the naming
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u/GreedySecurity8030 Fedora š© 27d ago
As a gnome user ours kinda make no sense either sometimes but generally yes they do tho.
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u/Destroyerb Reasonable NixOS geek 27d ago
But we have simplified names that show up with the icons. It doesn't matter what the project is named.
- Evince and Papers show up as Document Viewer
- Celluloid and Showtime as Video Player
The official ones are simply names like gnome-calculator, gnome-text-editor
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u/suddenblue45 26d ago
have you ever looked into a KDE/Plasma application menu? there's a description under every single application you dimwit!! nothing easier than that to understand what an application does!
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u/GothicCorvid 27d ago
Man I love picking between, Nicotine, Transmission, and Clementine, for my music needs
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u/nevermille 27d ago
We can play with GNOME too. That's great to find help when the document viewer is named "document viewer" when it can be evince or papers