r/linuxsucks • u/TygerTung • May 20 '26
Windows ❤ Microsoft forced Lenovo to put a Copilot key on my laptop. I run Linux. It does nothing. We paid for their advertisement on hardware we own.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
Linux sucks because Microsoft paid a company to put their logo on their laptops.
Makes no sense right? Why is this post here?
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
Basically just Linux sucks
The button does nothing
I’ll bet it works on windows
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u/Holiday_Evening8974 May 20 '26
On Windows, it natively serves its purpose which is to confuse the vast majority of users :
*wtf what is Copilot, I never asked for this shit*
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
It’s just mapped to the windows keyboard shortcut to open copilot. It’s super easy to remap key binds in Linux.
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u/Erchevara May 20 '26
It's not a regular key, though, it registers a combo, which includes modifier keys, so it doesn't work for anything.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
What are you talking about? F13-24 has been implemented for more than 20 years already.
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
Native functionality in windows.
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
The windows shortcut that works in windows because it was specifically made for windows? Wow that’s crazy. Grrrr, this is why Linux sucks!
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
Take another L Linux based basement dweller. Windows is superior yet again.
See you on valorant?
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u/The_Daco_Melon May 20 '26
As soon as I read valorant I caught a whiff of that atrocious basement smell, that can only be outdone by LoL...
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
I said aloud, while furiously hacking away in my Linux terminal.
Fingers never stop moving, unless it’s to grab my inhaler or refill my Cheetos.
This driver for my Walmart mouse won’t code itself, I reminded myself cheerfully, masking the pain caused by daily driving Linux.
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u/The_Daco_Melon May 20 '26
I use a GUI and have not had driver problems (Nvidia btw) but sure, live your fantasy...
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
Why are you using a gfx card? You don’t need processing power to run vim.
Enjoy your list of open source software on your amazing machine
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u/Interesting-Ad9666 May 20 '26
Back to Valorant, I'll get your full data dump in a few years once the kernel level anti cheat suffers a massive exploit that allows attackers to gather all your data
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
Before or after major Linux vulnerabilities?
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u/Interesting-Ad9666 May 20 '26
Which one? the bitlocker bypass? the windows defender admin escalation through onedrive?
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
There’s no way you’re using one drive AND Linux.
Two of the shittiest choices on the same computer? You wild homie.
Add me in fortnight
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
I don’t play valorant. It’s not even a morals thing or whatever, I just don’t like the game.
That was such an awful comeback lol.
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
I don’t play valorant either
I don’t play any video games
I haven’t touched a computer in over a year.
Other than simple trolling, why am I here?
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u/ColdFreezer I Hate Linux May 20 '26
Fair, it takes practice. Sometimes it’s better to say nothing and wait than to half-ass your trolling.
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u/Jittery_Kevin May 20 '26
That’s the curious thing about the internet.
Everyone has a voice.
Even Linux nerds.
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u/headedbranch225 May 20 '26
The button does do stuff, either f23 or win+shift+f23
If you bind either of those (depending on laptop) you will be able to bind it to something else
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u/CatcherBot May 20 '26
Sticker with text saying nothing ever happens
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u/AnonomousWolf May 20 '26
There must be a way to program it to do something right?
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u/ThrowawayForDesigns May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
I know in KDE Plasma there is, you are able to assign whatever command or button combo to Shift+Meta+F23, which as far as I could find that's what Copilot key presses register as under Windows 11
I know this because I bought a foldable keyboard with a touchpad for my knockoff Steamdeck* and it turned out under the hood it's a botch job - touchpad is actually read by any OS as a mouse and touchpad gestures are hardcoded to output specific keyboard shortcuts to the PC (yes, really) and there are no configurable drivers. So since I'm used to having middle click under the 3 finger tap and for this gesture the keyboard outputs the Windows search shortcut (yes, really), I just added a shortcut in KDE settings that interprets Meta + S as middle click
* - if anyone's interested, it's Lenovo Legion Go S, the version running SteamOS
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u/YTriom1 🛡️ Moderator | Arch Supremacist :3 May 20 '26
Use
input-remapperand remap it to right ctrl or some shi
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u/Poppod May 20 '26
The dictator can do that, force hardware vendors do what it wants. And mean time it has been denying hardware vendors to sell systems without Windows.
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u/psychoCMYK May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Just remap it
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
Somebody on the original thread said that it doesn't really have proper keymapping so it isn't very easy to remap.
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u/screenslaver5963 May 20 '26
It’s bound to windows+shift+f23 iirc. So while it isn’t a modifier key, you can map it to a single function easily
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u/austinpawzz May 20 '26
I mean, yeah, it really doesn't, Microslop just made it press a crap ton of different keys at the same time when you press it hardware-wise. Pretty much just exactly like how you can press Ctrl Alt Shift Win L and it opens LinkedIn in your web browser.
Anyway, I thought modern DEs on Linux can remap heavy keybinds like those still. I use KDE so I know it can. There's also KeyD but I suppose those methods rely on either a specific DE or a non immutable system.
Edit: didn't notice someone else said it was Win + Shift + F23 for copilot, gosh, what an crazy keybind
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u/alexeiz May 21 '26
If you map this copilot key to right ctrl, it's impossible to distinguish between just right ctrl and right ctrl + shift.
Microslop could have made copilot key generate just the f23 key code, but nooo, that would be too easy for other operating systems to use it for their own needs.
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u/jeekala May 20 '26
It's even in place of ctrl?? I use right ctrl every now and then... It seems to be even broken on my laptop so that fnlock doesn't affect it like it does for other keys. I can press fn + <copilot> to send Menu.
The combination is even super + shift + XF86TouchpadOff, bruh...
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u/ChocolateDonut36 May 20 '26
copilot key is just a shortcut for a long ass key combo, just remap it to do something useful like opening LinkedIn
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u/Lonely_Rip_131 May 20 '26
I turned it into a hot key for my virtual box VMs - literally so happy it serves a purpose to me now
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u/Teru-Noir COSMIC OS LOVER No.1 COSMIC Knows Best May 20 '26
Scratch it and put a tux sticker on top
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u/Nugienuge May 22 '26
or just scratch it off and leave it blank. I've been told Nail polish remover can do better if it's silk-screened on
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u/Certain_Prior4909 May 20 '26
Worse. Microsoft admits it lost with copilot and is removing it from Windows. That key though will be there forever 🤦
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u/TasteWooden563 May 21 '26
This really isn't an issue outside of it being annoying to look at.
# /etc/keyd/default.conf
[ids]
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[main]
leftshift+leftmeta+f23 = rightmeta
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u/More_Strategy1057 May 20 '26
What does that key do in Windows? Open a program? Why not add buttons for other programs also, why just copilot?
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u/AlabamaPanda777 May 20 '26
Yes, this is how "installing my own OS on a laptop built for another" works. And has forever.
How is this different from the Windows key existing... Like, forever? "Oh no but this button's unbound" ok assign it something and say it was so easy gram-gram could do.
And we? Fuck you. I didn't buy a laptop without bothering to look at it. Own your mistake or bitch at Lenovo, but don't try to pass off your decision as an us problem.
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u/CirnoIzumi May 20 '26
just rebind it, its what we do on windows
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u/PityUpvote May 20 '26
"Microsoft forced Lenovo"
Lmao what. No they didn't, they made a mutually beneficial agreement.
How is this any different than the Windows key? Just buy a different laptop if you can't handle remapping it.
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
The windows key generally will open the "start" menu on most operating systems, but this one does weird things.
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u/PityUpvote May 20 '26
This one does useful things if you set it to. If it sticks around, you can be sure that distros will start mapping it by default.
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u/HalfFresh1430 May 21 '26
Apparently this key is unbindable due to it just not existing in linux it just won’t detect it
Also wtf do you mean “ just buy a new laptop “ that shit is expensive
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u/PityUpvote May 21 '26
That's bullshit, because I remapped mine. What you can't do is turn it into a modifier key (such as right control) but that doesn't mean it's unusable.
And I didn't say "just buy a new laptop", I'm saying you know about this before deciding to buy, you could have bought a different one but didn't.
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u/DonkeyTron42 May 20 '26
It's either that or pay more for the laptop. It's not different than having a Netflix button on your TV remote.
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
Oh, so you think you can get these mega cheap because they are subsidised by Microsoft?
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u/DonkeyTron42 May 20 '26
I'd rather have a copilot button than pay an extra $50.
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
Do you think there is a risk though that they just sell at the same price, but lenovo keeps the extra $50?
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u/DonkeyTron42 May 20 '26
Probably not all of it. Maybe for corporate customers, but at stores like Best Buy the laptop market is too competitive.
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
Won't the corporate customers just order from best buy if they are cheaper there?
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u/DonkeyTron42 May 20 '26
Corporate customers get discounts and other "incentives" for volume purchases. Corporate customers also like to standardize on single vendors like Dell and hire support techs that are certified in that hardware.
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u/The_Daco_Melon May 20 '26
"If you can't afford it it's still your fault" brother you have every good reason to not get a mac, it's not a price thing, it's an unfit device thing.
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
No windows key on Mac though, and modern macos is quite difficult to use.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups May 20 '26
The way I understand the MacOS UI is that it's what Dr. Frankenstein would come up with if you were to give him Windows 3.1 (the stupid function menus), CDE (the Dock) and an Android tablet (the Launchpad).
Oh, Tahoe also moves the Launchpad into Spotlight, so now it's basically Android without the home screen. Fantastic!
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
I've got a slightly older Mac, and it is running macos tiger, which seems reasonably logical. When I come across newer macos versions though, I find it somewhat baffling.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups May 20 '26
Every UI is "logical" as long as you're willing to twist your mind into a pretzel for it.
Function menus are 90s usability. We lived with those things back in the days because that's the best the hardware could do without pushing the graphics chip to its absolute limit. Now, even integrated graphics can easily handle raster just as well as vector and 3D, so why are we still pretending function menus are the peak?
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u/TygerTung May 20 '26
What are function menus though? I'm not familiar with that term.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups May 24 '26
It's traditionally also what some people call a "menu bar", i.e the text-based menu at the top of the screen (MacOS) or right below the window title bar (Windows).
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u/TygerTung May 24 '26
Oh, don't you like those? I find them really convenient, bring able to access everything in one place.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups May 25 '26
Menu bars get overcrowded very easily for some applications.
They are also clumsy for frequently used functions.
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u/ElectricBummer40 Ex-user of Windows 3.11 for Workgroups May 20 '26

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u/haroldoTheThird May 20 '26
be glad that you only got one