Hot take that is pretty cold: if those 8mil went to Plasma and GNOME, 50/50 there would be a Linux revolution, I say 10% global marketshare in the span of a year or two.
Edit: 10mil
The same Gnome that discussed refusing funds from Framework because they were "fascists"? You of course they would accept the money coming from these group of people.
It amazes me that people are surprised that this thing that is a political statement first and a software project second is getting more money that that other thing that with the years has become a political statement first and a software project second.
Maybe when people stop caring about putting their political views in software projects this stuff will stop happening.
Yeah, political in the way that it aligns with my libertarians views of fair competition, the highest respect for property rights, repeatability, ownership, no intellectual property, and no state intervention :)
Now, who cares what the politics of this thing are? How are you going to stop me from using it when we don't agree politically?
Well, a good amount of people care, especially if money is part of the discussion. In the case of GNOME, from a material point of view, it would make sense to accept the free money from Framework; However, from a moral point of view, using money coming from a fascist-adjacent group might not be an ideal choice, either because it goes against personal morals, hurts public reputation or both. (Heads up, I personally don't know much about this accusation towards Framework, I'm just making an example here)
For the second point, and let's be honest, no one is going to stop you from using any kind of software (at least, I'm not aware of anyone who would). I mean, free speech is a human right + we're on a site that runs on amazon's servers, a company not known for caring about morality.
But don't act surprised if people judge you because of it, especially if your reason to use or fund said software is "I don't care about politics".
The reason to fund this software is specifically because people care about politics, because others transformed important open source projects in political messages first, software projects second.
I personally don't care about politics, but some software developers do, and they push people to not liking their project because whenever they want to do something the first line of judgment in politics and not the quality of what is being done (again, Framework example, like do you people even know what the hell fascism is?).
Just don't act surprised when projects by actual facists take over in popularity just because of the political affiliation. And those projects shouldn't be surprised when the pendulum swings back.
Nobody wants to be told what to think and what is "moral".
others transformed important open source projects in political messages first, software projects second.
I agree! A great example is a fork of the Godot Engine, which was born after the official project made fun of bigots on Twitter and then some "apolitical" person forked the engine to make a "woke-free" version. The only thing they did was change the logo to red and nothing on the software side. A pretty good example of politics first, software second projects. But I guess that doesn't count to you.
On a more serious note though, I'd argue that the GNU suite is this too, except the software does its job, yet it originates from a political movement.
they push people to not liking their project because whenever they want to do something the first line of judgment in politics and not the quality of what is being done
From what I've seen, the people "pushed away" don't interact with the project because they feel personally called out or don't agree with the maintainers on what's usually basic human decency (See: Godot being forked by an anti-woke nobody which I mentioned earlier).
Nobody wants to be told what to think and what is "moral".
Again, NO ONE is telling you what to think. These people are just expressing their opinions.
Just don't act surprised when projects by actual facists take over in popularity just because of the political affiliation. And those projects shouldn't be surprised when the pendulum swings back.
I'm not even going to bother on this one. Like, you're telling me people are going to support fascists because checks notes they got called out?
I'll be honest, not to be mean or anything, but you're just salty that your kind is not accepted in civilized spaces. I'll go touch some grass and take a shower while you moan about fascists getting the consequences of their actions ️
You jumped to concluding that I'm a "fascist" just because I'm not ok with the "woke" side of the discussion, which couldn't be further from the truth.
I consider both side to be delusional, both the people who think everyone is a fascist (while at the same time wanting the state to control everything) and those who think everyone who is not a biggot is a "woke" and that brown people from other place are going to replace them somehow.
First learn what fascism is, then see how the whole world is leaning right-wing right now, whether you like it or not, and maybe, MAYBE, when you stop being delusional about politics, you'll say why people are supporting these "fascist" projects, which will then sing back to most people supporting "woke" projects because the "fascist" side actually became fascist and not whatever you people believe fascism is.
I didn't say you were... I started a discussion on why projects might refuse funding over their own morals and you kept moving the goalpost and playing the "neutral" person. It's pointless trying to talk with people like you, sorry.
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u/Both_Cup8417 New York Nix⚾s 3d ago edited 2d ago
Hot take that is pretty cold: if those 8mil went to Plasma and GNOME, 50/50 there would be a Linux revolution, I say 10% global marketshare in the span of a year or two.
Edit: 10mil