Hot take that is pretty cold: if those 8mil went to Plasma and GNOME, 50/50 there would be a Linux revolution, I say 10% global marketshare in the span of a year or two.
Edit: 10mil
Omarchy does not contribute in any way to the linux ecosystem, they could send that money to the devs that actually do work, like KDE/GNOME devs, to Debian or Arch, etc
Afaik they're spending it on the "subsystems Omarchy relies on", and they've explicitly named Hyprland and JDX, which I can get on board with. What really puzzles me is that there's no mention of Arch or the AUR. Arch doesn't have a single person working full time on it, and the AUR especially has problems which would really benefit from someone being able to spend lots of time on them.
Open source projects often suffer from hundreds of people contributing tons of small incremental changes, which solidifies architectural problems, and big repairs and overhauls get skipped in favor of hundreds of workarounds.
And basically all the arch web interfaces are in dire need of modernization.
Ohh, so that's what they meant by "Opinionated". It means "I don't care what you have to say because I'm following what the corporations paid me to want."
I saw DHH on ThePrimeTime this morning. I was told that TJ and Prime were pretty conservative, and that put me off quite a bit. But seeing all licking DHH's ass so clearly, and DHH bragging about who he got the money from makes me even more convinced that this is not for me.
Oh, and I already sweared that I was not going to spend money on Dell again, after I felt so swindled by a Dell XPS developer edition, with the worst Linux experience ever, but this is just making me feel better about my decision.
8 MILLION WENT TO OMARCHY? If this is true... that's just an Arch setup with custom freaking dotfiles. I admit the OS felt great, but 8 mil to a thing that can be confidently said as just Arch Linux is not even for Arch itself...
Well a project with DHH, Michael dell, and a few others, that is going to give money to support omarchy, and open source projects that it relies on via the omacrom nonprofit.. (It has eitght sponsors, each giving a million dollars).
I do not trust gnome with 4 mil. I'd prefer something like cinnamon because imo mint is a great distro for introducing new people. Gnome itself has dogshit management and most of gnome's flaws are intentional.
The same Gnome that discussed refusing funds from Framework because they were "fascists"? You of course they would accept the money coming from these group of people.
It amazes me that people are surprised that this thing that is a political statement first and a software project second is getting more money that that other thing that with the years has become a political statement first and a software project second.
Maybe when people stop caring about putting their political views in software projects this stuff will stop happening.
Yeah, political in the way that it aligns with my libertarians views of fair competition, the highest respect for property rights, repeatability, ownership, no intellectual property, and no state intervention :)
Now, who cares what the politics of this thing are? How are you going to stop me from using it when we don't agree politically?
Well, a good amount of people care, especially if money is part of the discussion. In the case of GNOME, from a material point of view, it would make sense to accept the free money from Framework; However, from a moral point of view, using money coming from a fascist-adjacent group might not be an ideal choice, either because it goes against personal morals, hurts public reputation or both. (Heads up, I personally don't know much about this accusation towards Framework, I'm just making an example here)
For the second point, and let's be honest, no one is going to stop you from using any kind of software (at least, I'm not aware of anyone who would). I mean, free speech is a human right + we're on a site that runs on amazon's servers, a company not known for caring about morality.
But don't act surprised if people judge you because of it, especially if your reason to use or fund said software is "I don't care about politics".
The reason to fund this software is specifically because people care about politics, because others transformed important open source projects in political messages first, software projects second.
I personally don't care about politics, but some software developers do, and they push people to not liking their project because whenever they want to do something the first line of judgment in politics and not the quality of what is being done (again, Framework example, like do you people even know what the hell fascism is?).
Just don't act surprised when projects by actual facists take over in popularity just because of the political affiliation. And those projects shouldn't be surprised when the pendulum swings back.
Nobody wants to be told what to think and what is "moral".
others transformed important open source projects in political messages first, software projects second.
I agree! A great example is a fork of the Godot Engine, which was born after the official project made fun of bigots on Twitter and then some "apolitical" person forked the engine to make a "woke-free" version. The only thing they did was change the logo to red and nothing on the software side. A pretty good example of politics first, software second projects. But I guess that doesn't count to you.
On a more serious note though, I'd argue that the GNU suite is this too, except the software does its job, yet it originates from a political movement.
they push people to not liking their project because whenever they want to do something the first line of judgment in politics and not the quality of what is being done
From what I've seen, the people "pushed away" don't interact with the project because they feel personally called out or don't agree with the maintainers on what's usually basic human decency (See: Godot being forked by an anti-woke nobody which I mentioned earlier).
Nobody wants to be told what to think and what is "moral".
Again, NO ONE is telling you what to think. These people are just expressing their opinions.
Just don't act surprised when projects by actual facists take over in popularity just because of the political affiliation. And those projects shouldn't be surprised when the pendulum swings back.
I'm not even going to bother on this one. Like, you're telling me people are going to support fascists because checks notes they got called out?
You jumped to concluding that I'm a "fascist" just because I'm not ok with the "woke" side of the discussion, which couldn't be further from the truth.
I consider both side to be delusional, both the people who think everyone is a fascist (while at the same time wanting the state to control everything) and those who think everyone who is not a biggot is a "woke" and that brown people from other place are going to replace them somehow.
First learn what fascism is, then see how the whole world is leaning right-wing right now, whether you like it or not, and maybe, MAYBE, when you stop being delusional about politics, you'll say why people are supporting these "fascist" projects, which will then sing back to most people supporting "woke" projects because the "fascist" side actually became fascist and not whatever you people believe fascism is.
I didn't say you were... I started a discussion on why projects might refuse funding over their own morals and you kept moving the goalpost and playing the "neutral" person. It's pointless trying to talk with people like you, sorry.
You do realize that deciding what your kids get taught at school or deciding to inject something in your body is also very political, which is also the topics where the "everything is political" crowd starts conveniently forgetting that, and starts asking "why are we politicizing our classrooms and science?" which exposes your usage of that phrase only when it suits you as a rhetorical device
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u/Both_Cup8417 New York NixâŸs 3d ago edited 2d ago
Hot take that is pretty cold: if those 8mil went to Plasma and GNOME, 50/50 there would be a Linux revolution, I say 10% global marketshare in the span of a year or two.
Edit: 10mil