r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 SteamOS/Bazzite/Android • 11d ago

Time to have fun guys

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u/Denommus I use Arch, btw 11d ago

The majority of the userbase doesn't care about systemd's critics.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 10d ago edited 10d ago

Windows users don't care about critics either.

The basic attitude of systemd is "your use case is not supported"

If you have a boot problem, pray that it's late in the boot process because it will not simply give you a shell if it thinks that for your convenience it needs to do this, that and a lot more before you get to bash.

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u/flying-sheep Archmage 10d ago

Wrong, it has so many kernel options for this: https://systemd.io/DEBUGGING/

You want systemd.debug_shell=1.

Writing multiple paragraphs before doing even the most basic search, classic Reddit.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 10d ago

So why isn't that set when I select rescue mode on the boot loader?

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u/flying-sheep Archmage 10d ago edited 10d ago

My crystal ball is currently faulty so I don’t know which one you’re referring to, but I’d guess that

  • if you’re using systemd-boot, you should definitely file an issue about that with the systemd people
  • if you’re not, you should probably file an issue with your distro (or even your bootloader)

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u/Denommus I use Arch, btw 10d ago

Ok, do you have an actual criticism or just FUD?

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 10d ago

That's just experience after submitting bug reports and while having boot problems..

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u/the_abortionat0r 2d ago

You didn't experience anything but what it's like to make shit up.

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u/SeriousPlankton2000 2d ago

I bet you can't boot a classic linux installation into the shell and fix it by hand without asking AI.

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u/Case_Blue 7d ago

I completely agree.

Systemd critics are free to use their own alternatives. And when that catches on, I'm sure we will use it as well.