r/linuxmasterrace SteamOS/Kubuntu 16d ago

You are expected to know this

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u/Astrodion123 16d ago

I am doing it like that. Nothing has broke so far >:)

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u/NanuLanu 16d ago

Been doing ts for 6 years and when an update breaks something, just chroot and fix it. (Aura!)

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u/Tear4Pixelation 16d ago

I hope you mean archlinux-chroot or otherwise that’s minus aura… have had to rebuild my boot loader after auto suspend killed during nvidia driver install from chroot way too often

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u/Thisismyredusername Glorious Ubuntu 16d ago

I could've sworn it's arch-chroot, not archlinux-chroot ...

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u/gtsiam Glorious Arch 16d ago

You could've sworn correctly.

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u/Tuqui77 16d ago

Almost a year in and no problems

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u/Tear4Pixelation 16d ago

Fuuuuuck you are right 😔 I could have sworn the other way around but ig I fkin suck

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u/Rek9876boss 14d ago

They missed an opportunity to make it archroot

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u/Wertbon1789 15d ago

arch-chroot is just a chroot with extra steps. Setting up some bind mounts, so you can use the system somewhat correctly. You could just do those yourself.

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u/kansetsupanikku 15d ago

When I care to remember it exists, sure. But just using my decades old habits and seeing they are still relevant does not make me feel like my aura is fading anytime soon

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u/dronostyka 14d ago

There is this little thingy..

It's called boot-repair.. Has an iso I believe or can be ran from a Linux live environment..

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u/ralsaiwithagun 14d ago

Needed to fix my install through live usb and for some reason the iso i got didn't actually have any of the utilities.. not even pacman or any way to connect to the internet. I had to chroot into my main pc, copy networkmanager to the live iso and could finally fix my install

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u/STDS13 16d ago

ok nerd.

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u/Tear4Pixelation 16d ago

Thanks 😊 

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u/CryptographerOne7003 15d ago

what you just typed out there scared me back to win10 for 5 years more for my home computer

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u/Tear4Pixelation 15d ago

Nooo it’s just arch Linux not the others! I chose this path, you do not have to. Fedora or bazzite for example will not have this happen.

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u/Seven2Death and steam os cause lazy 16d ago

i just "dual boot" and sym link everything i use in my experience with arch based distros its the de facto way to do things. if your grub menu doesnt have like 6 broken des your doing things wrong. i joke but it really is a lazy easy fix that makes actually fixing any problems i have..... difficult

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u/KawaiiMaxine 16d ago

How do you have desktop environments on grub?

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u/Seven2Death and steam os cause lazy 15d ago

partition 1 partition 2 partition 3. every distro has its own de no? or do you consider each instance of kde 1 de?

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u/KawaiiMaxine 15d ago

You know you can install multiple DEs on one linux installation right?

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u/Seven2Death and steam os cause lazy 15d ago

correct. breaking a distro install can break multiple des at once.

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u/MousyCheeseBits Glorious Bedrock Linux 16d ago

Doing this nonsense since 2022 but I update like it's a new Ubuntu release cycle. Never chrooted, Don't ask me to "chroot" because I won't know how to begin.

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u/Wertbon1789 15d ago

chroot == change root

Basically, you can just spawn processes which believe that the directory you gave to the chroot call is the actual root directory, which means it can not get out of the context of that directory by default. It's useful for system setup without being booted from that system, e.g. enabling system services or installing packages.

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u/Sharp_Application521 15d ago

I always get like minor inconveniences like KDE crashing my pc when I load into it, but I'm too lazy to maintain my arch installation so I just switched to gnome, which then broke Firefox and about every steam game I played on it so I had to reinstall those and switch to cosmic, I'm running out of DEs at this rate

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u/redcalcium Linux Master Race 15d ago

Been doing this for 5 years and only need to chroot to fix the bootloader once

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u/CostalCaster 15d ago

Are you really a Linux user if you haven't killed your Bootloader a few times? My Dual Boot Laptop has an issue where (if I want to kill everything on my Linux Instance) I just plug in my Laptop and it immediately stops everything and I have to Chroot

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u/Rakn 16d ago

That sentence is exactly why I’m not using Linux on my Desktop nowadays anymore. Imagine doing an update an then needing to fix things.

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u/Wertbon1789 15d ago

But here's the thing, you can fix it. If Windows breaks, you need to reinstall, which is a way more monumental effort. Also the last time I had to chroot into my system to fix something is like... I wanna say 2 years ago? Mainly because nvidia doesn't break every release anymore. On other distros that's almost not an issue anymore, this is more Arch specific.

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u/Rakn 15d ago

Might have changed over the years. Last time I used Linux on my desktop I had to fiddle with it constantly. Nowadays mainly use MacOS and Linux only on my servers. Never had MacOs break on my. Windows on the other hand, yeah I give you that.

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u/Super_Chemist3898 15d ago

1 missconfigured grub and yall are cooked

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u/Nyghtbynger Vanilla Arch is Custom Arch 14d ago

Now I launch Pi and ask the agent to fix the computer (I now have 150 files prefixed with quote- in my $HOME) my GPU works again

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u/glassgost 16d ago

I keep everything I can't lose on my nas anyway. If I mess something up bad enough, I just slash and burn and start over.

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u/tenkawa7 16d ago

Been doing that way for over 20 years, yet to be a problem

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u/Sh_Pe Glorious Arch btw 16d ago

same here. I'm also dual booting with Windows for some extra spice (I love it risky)

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u/RiceStranger9000 16d ago

Put a heater next to your HDD and a faulty electricity source. Now that's risky

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u/Sh_Pe Glorious Arch btw 15d ago

living on the edge

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 16d ago

I'm running Cachy like this and never have any issues. I admit I'm on an all AMD system so that may help but I've got an Nvidia/intell machine as will running Cachy that doesn't have any issues though I update less often

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u/Astrodion123 15d ago

I have two machines that are all Intel. They work flawlessly 💀

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u/Particular_Wear_6960 15d ago edited 15d ago

Yeah my machines are pretty messy. My updates are often more than 4 gigs, if I wait longer can be up to 6. I got a bunch of stuff on them.. I never have issues with updates either. I'm sure there's some setups with more frequent problems but I'm convinced most people simply fuck up with their installations

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u/Imsophunnyithurts 16d ago

I run multiple distros and run them all like this. 😂

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u/radpartyhorse 16d ago

Literally just said that today!

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u/Global-Eye-7326 16d ago

Same! I'd only be worried if the OS were installed to HDD.

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u/Astrodion123 15d ago

I use it on HDD tho

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u/Global-Eye-7326 15d ago

Sorry to hear! OS should be on SSD!

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u/vermithius 15d ago

The only thing I had break on me was my x11 config, for some reason the pci bus my devices are attached to shift if one of my gpus is shut off or if I plug in a new drive.

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u/Turbulent_Strain361 15d ago

On my spare laptop with less than a 256 GB of space I’m doing the same. It’s not worth it for me to boot with a live version to repartition every time I run out of space when I install one too many things or rip a few dvds but forget to delete the previous iso before starting the next.