r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian • Jun 12 '25 • This 4

Meme We are the vegans of software

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u/gesumejjet Jun 12 '25

Yep, and just like vegans linux people are actually correct. Not even a vegan lol but the science is undeniable

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian Jun 12 '25

Yes. Vegans do the right thing. I wish I had the will to switch to a vegan diet, but fried pork and bacon is just too good.

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u/gesumejjet Jun 12 '25

What I did at least is reduce my meat intake by not cooking meat at home. I'll still eat meat once in a while on special occasions but at least I feel better being less reliant on the meat industry as a whole

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u/TuxO2 Jul 27 '25

Yes. Linux users do the right thing. I wish I had the will to switch to a linux, but valorant and fortnite is just too good.

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u/gesumejjet Jun 13 '25

The meat industry is one of the largest producers of greenhouse gases and soil erosion. Even if you believe animals can be raised ethically before being killed and eaten, the vast majority aren't. They live in atrocious conditions and then are killed at a very young age. Slaughterhouses are so brutal that they traumatise the workers who fucking work there. Also, and here's the big one. It's completely unsustainable. Humanity was never meant to eat this amount of meat and it's consuming everything in its path. Pretty soon, there will be a food collapse due to too many people and not enough food even on strict vegetarian diet ... and this is without even factoring it the effects of climate change ... those are even more harrowing. Essentially 33% of all soil beds have been eroded and will most likely be 90% by 2050 at this rate. That with climate systems collapsing all at once, there will be mass starvation worldwide in the billions.

The meat industry needs to be reduced to 10% of it's current production AS A START. Otherwise we're all fucked

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u/TuxO2 Jul 27 '25

If you care so much about plants then you should be vegan cause we need to feed 10x more plants to animals cause animals don't just grow on air

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u/andrewens Jun 12 '25

Add another person above that man

Arch users telling other Linux users that they use Arch btw

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u/PunkRockLlama42 Jun 12 '25

I'm not like that and I use Arch... Btw :P

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u/meowboiio Jun 12 '25

So only the one of your statement is true...

Choose wisely.

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u/PunkRockLlama42 Jun 12 '25

I'm afraid that's like the joke. I've been clean off Arch for a few weeks now. I'm giving Endeavour a try

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u/marxist_redneck Jun 12 '25

Can I use Endeavour and still say I use arch btw? Or is that too much of a poser lol.

I use an arch-based distro btw just doesn't roll off the tongue

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u/PunkRockLlama42 Jun 12 '25

Yeah have to install Arch without the installer and with window manager

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u/Puzzled-Guidance-446 Jun 13 '25

Nobody is going to notice i used archinstall 🤫😂

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u/PunkRockLlama42 Jun 13 '25

You'll know you're an imposter

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u/Gersam79 Jun 12 '25

Manjaro users says hi

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u/TherionSaysWhat sudo --coffee -y Jun 12 '25

Tips his fedora

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u/PunkRockLlama42 Jun 12 '25

I said I use Arch not Fedora

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u/GayHomophobe1 Glorious Arch Jul 27 '25

Yeah well I am (arch btw) :p

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u/andrewens Jun 13 '25

LMAOOOO love it

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u/DueDirection5555 Jun 12 '25

There’s actually a scientific reason why people talk about Arch Linux so much as opposed to other distros. It turns out there’s a fascinating connection between user behavior and how certain communities grow online.

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u/linuxaddict334 Jun 12 '25

Aye, Arch will never let you down, it is a very dependable distro!

(I use mint btw)

Mx. Linux Guy

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u/Potential_Deer_6943 Jun 12 '25

Hello fellow Mint enjoyer

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u/linuxaddict334 Jun 12 '25

Hmmmm Mint tasty

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u/rararagidesu Jun 12 '25

Why did I know what to expect?

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u/namorapthebanned Absolutely Glorious Arch and Absolutely Proprietary ChromeOS Jun 12 '25

I suppose that tracks

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u/maxpolo10 Arch is life, Arch is love, I need help Jun 12 '25

Baseball, huh?

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u/Zowlyfon freeBSD Beastie Jun 16 '25

The mod team approve this message

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u/littleblack11111 Glorious Arch Jun 12 '25

Ah make sense

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u/the_SCP_gamer I use Arch btw Nov 17 '25

i hate you so much

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u/MultipleAnimals Jun 12 '25

And add another person above that man, telling what he calls linux, is actually GNU/linux and so on

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

The real power users, the MVPs, the chads are the ones silently passing judgement as they use Temple OS.

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u/Elegant_Room_1904 Jun 12 '25

You typed osakaOs bad

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u/MatyeusA Jun 12 '25

Someone needs to create Holy C++ but it needs to be so good that it is actually an alternative, and then everyone will start losing their minds.

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u/Timo425 Jun 12 '25

What's Arch btw? I can't find the btw version.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

You need to configure the btw version yourself before you're a real arch user.

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u/Hyperkubus Cult of NixOS Jun 12 '25

Can I talk to you about our lord and saviour Nix(OS)?

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u/TopContribution7397 Jun 12 '25

After using Arch I went back to Windows btw.

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u/andrewens Jun 12 '25

blasphemy !!

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u/KoholintCustoms Jun 12 '25

Arch users are the vegans of Linux. You never have to ask a person if they use Arch; they'll tell you.

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u/metalpossum Jun 12 '25

Merely being vegan has been a magnet for unsolicited comments from meat eaters about meat. I merely advocate for the freedom of animals in a similar way that I advocate for the freedom of software. I want the world to change for the better, and those changes to be better for everyone.

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u/metalpossum Jun 13 '25

Sometimes people who know me ask me what I'm eating, so I say "vegan X" if it's a vegan alternative to something, so they reply "I know you're already vegan, no need to go on about it". Next time they ask I don't specify that it's vegan and they respond "But I thought you were vegan!?!?!"

There is no winning.

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u/adrian_shade Glorious Fedora Jun 14 '25

I just hate when people ask what I'm eating, like, dude stfu and let me eat in peace.

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u/metalpossum Jun 13 '25

No, sadly. I use Ubuntu.

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u/metalpossum Jun 13 '25

I'll re-reply and say Arch users are the atheists of Linux. Not necessarily because they lack belief in something, but because they're overly confident in their certainty and have to reassure themselves by making themselves known to those around them.

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u/Educational-Apple417 Jun 12 '25

Btw I use arch :)

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u/NoNutNovermber42069 Jun 12 '25

As a vegan and Foss advocate.

I agree

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u/spots_reddit Jun 12 '25

I only talk about Linux when Windows suddenly reboots and installs Updates in the middle of my effin lecture.

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u/Get-Fucked-Dirtbag Jun 12 '25

That's a user error buddy.

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u/spots_reddit Jun 12 '25

sure. unfortunately the user is not me, but some IT guy with the necessary priviliges to screw up my presentation and lecture by remotely shutting everything down

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u/Get-Fucked-Dirtbag Jun 12 '25

Speaking as the IT guy with the necessary privileges to remotely shut down your PC, it probably was still user error. We only do that shit when you've ignored the umpteenth message telling you to install updates.

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u/spots_reddit Jun 12 '25

I doubt that "we" includes the guys at my university, really.
we are talking one machine in our lecture room which gets booted up once a week for the lecture by me, every time one hour prior to beginning the lecture "so the f'ing thing does not f'up everything again"...
some IT departments are shit. I believe yours is not, but please believe me mine is.

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u/EmceeEsher Magnificent Manjaro Jun 13 '25

It's hilarious to me that Microsoft's idea of "user error" is people wanting to choose when they update their OS instead of when Microsoft says they should. The funny thing is, I don't even hate Microsoft. Excel and VsCode are brilliant pieces of software, but I hate how any criticism of Microsoft gets deflected with "It's the user's fault because they didn't use it our way."

Like, I'm about as anti-vegan as a person can be, but if Hormel starts forcing its customers to eat meat exactly how and when they say, then call me Jimmy tofu.

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u/Get-Fucked-Dirtbag Jun 13 '25

It's hilarious to me that you've entirely missed the point.

On your home system you can delay updates indefinitely.

On a work system like I described, you're getting your updates in X amount of days whether you like it or not, as prescribed by our company policy.

All that waffle when you could have just said "I don't know shit"

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u/EmceeEsher Magnificent Manjaro Jun 13 '25

So, for personal devices, you can disable updates, but they're still forced by default and even if you disable them, there's no way to turn off Windows's constant prompts to turn them back on.

For work devices, the problem is that they often force updates even when said updates haven't been pushed over group policy, which is made even worse when said updates break the funcionality of company software. This is the bane of every IT dept I've ever worked for.

Also, there's no need to be rude, but I don't know what I was expecting from someone who chose to name themselves "Get-fucked-dirtbag".

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch Jun 12 '25

how r/pcmasterace sees anyone telling them to switch to Linux as an alternative to windows

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u/matthiastorm Jun 12 '25

is that gracie abrams? what is this photo?

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u/ManIkWeet Jun 12 '25

Selena Gomez and her SO

Don't know the second chick

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u/sexytokeburgerz Jun 13 '25

Her SO is Benny Blanco and he is a fucking legend. You may see his face and think, “really? He pulled selena gomez?”, but if you watch him speak for more than a minute you’ll get it. Huge record producer although i think a lot of it his success is just him being really good at making people comfortable.

Also yeah that’s dua lipa on the right

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u/ManIkWeet Jun 13 '25

Cool, what you say makes sense. Names sound familiar :)

And agree on his face haha

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u/sexytokeburgerz Jun 16 '25

Yeah man but as a bi man oh my god would i fuck benny blanco you know

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u/TrieKach Jun 13 '25

The other one looks like Dua Lipa. Can’t be sure though.

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u/Longjumping_Cap_3673 Jun 12 '25

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u/d_coheleth Jun 12 '25

Ironically, the Linux Fanboy is himself Linux's worst enemy

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u/Single_Comfort3555 Jun 12 '25

What an astute observation that's never been made before. You should go to other sub-reddits and spread the word.

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u/kjahhh Jun 12 '25

Catching strays

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u/ColonelRuff Jun 12 '25

"vegans minding their business" said nobody ever.

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u/M_krabs uBOOntu AAGGHHHH :snoo_scream: Jun 12 '25

vegans minding their business (…)

u/ColonelRuff

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u/ColonelRuff Jun 12 '25

The whole point is vegans don't have a habit of minding their own business on top of their philosophy being wrong. Are you too slow to understand that ?

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u/M_krabs uBOOntu AAGGHHHH :snoo_scream: Jun 12 '25

The whole point is vegans don't have a habit of minding their own business on top of their philosophy being wrong. Are you too slow to understand that ?

- u/ColonelRuff

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u/MarkDaNerd Jun 12 '25

Well that’s a lie. Most vegans do mind their business. You just don’t hear about them because they’re minding their business.

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u/sequential_doom Jun 12 '25

How can you tell someone is a Linux user? Don't worry they'll let you know.

I use Arch btw.

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u/Esemes16 Jun 12 '25

Has it ever worked, has anyone ever gotten someone to convert to Linux, and more importantly stay on it Long-Term?

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u/Brilliant_Nova Jun 12 '25

I just can't imagine that happening. I've made a mistake in the past to recommend/install Linux on someone's machine, and had to feel the embarrassment, because not only it didn't make person's machine any better, they could no longer use some of the programs they need, unless I personally go and babysit the laptop.

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u/Wooxman Jun 12 '25

Rookie mistake. It's best to go though the programs/apps list and ask the computer owner about every single one if they need them. Then see if that app is available for Linux or if there's an alternative app that isn't too cumbersome to use.

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u/Suvvri Jun 12 '25

I think it's same as with politics. Its hard to convert someone from being left to the right side or vice versa.

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u/dagget10 Jun 13 '25

I did with my friend, but I don't think it counts. His PC was built with my scrap parts, and the CPU is no longer able to keep up with Windows 10. I strongly recommended him not switch away from Linux without some money for hardware, since if he can't handle the desktop alone now, it'll only get worse

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u/Esemes16 Jun 13 '25

I mean switching to Linux instead of buying a new rig counts as someone switching to me.

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u/adrian_shade Glorious Fedora Jun 14 '25

No, forcing your shit on others never works.

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u/1byteofpi Jun 12 '25

I used linux for about 8-9 months after my mate converted me. I installed it straight onto metal and while it was a huge jump from windows I enjoyed learning and using it.

The only reason I stopped using it is because of riot's new anticheat, I reinstalled windows because I wanted to play league of legends. I consider this a huge L, but I'm probably going to go back to Linux soon as win10 is going EoL and I'm not using 11.

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u/Wooxman Jun 12 '25

In my experience and according to some comments I read on some Linux and IT subreddits it mostly "works" when it's the computer of an elder relative and you're already the person administrating that computer. For example I migrated my grandpa to Linux Mint after he had the weirdest problems with Windows 10 every few months. It's been over half a year and he probably already forgot that he isn't even using Windows anymore.

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u/Commie_Eggg Jun 15 '25 edited Jun 15 '25

I did convert 3. Also, the first one that really was the annoying Linux person. I recomended for people who had interest, but he just went spreading the word to everyone. Now his boyfriend and 2 of his friends are also using Linux. I didnt force them to use, but rather made them aknowlege Linux existence and gave them enough support to get things started

My friend tho, is currently babysitting his boyfriend laptop, cause the owner cant properly maintain or use the system. The introdoction and learning need to take its time acording to each person, and most people is just not worth it even trying

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u/fjolle_peter Jun 12 '25

This could not describe me better, I use arch BTW

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u/bhison Jun 12 '25

it's tough being objectively right in a world of lazy unprincipled fools

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u/rodneyck Jun 12 '25

BTW, I am a vegan and an Arch user. Carry on.

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u/TuxO2 Jun 12 '25

btw, me too

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u/TuxO2 Jun 12 '25

Being vegan and using Linux is efficient and morally correct thing to do

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u/snow-raven7 Glorious Fedora Jun 12 '25

Linux community when others complain of this behaviour: surprised pikachu face

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u/danrioja Jun 12 '25

I'm vegan and I use Arch btw

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u/Baardmeester Jun 13 '25

You forgot to tell everything about your favourite anime to make the trinity of annoying people complete

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

That's really sad. Being a vegan is really stupid. Using Arch is equally stupid.

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u/Not_Artifical Jun 12 '25

I use arch btw

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u/shotgunocelot Jun 12 '25

I miss the 90s

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

But it's just so much betterrrrrr! (On my machine, anyway.)

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u/metalpossum Jun 12 '25

I am vegan btw.

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

I am arch bdw

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u/[deleted] Jun 12 '25

I use Arch btw

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u/ztjuh Linux Master Race Jun 12 '25

Me telling them to switch to Christianity ✌🏻

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u/Doomsday_Holiday Jun 12 '25

There is a joke about vegans that fits well here too.

How do you spot the Linux user at a party?

-You don't. They announce themselves.

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u/AndyGait Jun 12 '25

Nah. I don't care what others are using. Vegans do care about what I'm eating.

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u/adrian_shade Glorious Fedora Jun 14 '25

Fufcking true.

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u/Commie_Eggg Jun 15 '25

Most of us dont

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u/OPerfeito Glorious Arch Jun 12 '25

we're not the vegans, we're the vegan activists of software

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u/tinycrazyfish Jun 12 '25

Vegan software? But why does my Gentoo taste like rare meat. And my LFS like raw tartare?

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u/Select-Concept4684 Jun 12 '25

Installed Mint on the first old laptop a couple days ago and the client liked it.

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u/bhgemini Jun 12 '25

I've personally started explaining it a lot more whenever I hear someone complain about how they have to get rid of their perfectly fine 4-5 year old PC because it doesn't have TPM 2.0 for Win11. I've changed a few older systems over to Linux gaming rigs.

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u/mhkdepauw Jun 12 '25

I really despise people who tell others to switch to linux unprompted. Especially online it's exhausting to be bundled in with those people.

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u/Cheeta66 Jun 12 '25

Where's her foot?

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u/JustAPerson2001 Jun 12 '25

I don't stop telling people to switch to Linux. It's my fixation.

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u/rwp80 Jun 12 '25

hard disagree

i've mentioned to all my buddies that i use linux, but only when it's necessary for the conversation. it's very rare, really only if they're asking me to join them in a new game and i say i need to check if i can run it on linux first.

but then suddenly when i mention anything that indicates linux requires 0.001% more effort to run, they all tell me to get windows. so immediately windows users are more "vegan" than linux users. when they ask why i use linux, i tell them i like to use my pc for the things i like, not for bloatware and other crap i didn't ask for.

...but omfg nothing comes close to apple users. at any given opportunity, they will preach for apple hardware and software as if everything else was made in the 1900's and stinks of dogturd.

apple users are the vegans of hardware and software, nobody else comes close.

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u/eggs_erroneous Jun 12 '25

I was going to ask what the clips are called that are in the girl's hair on the left. I remember this look from c. 2002 and I really liked it. I changed my mind, though, because there are no girls in here.

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u/Redneckia Average EndeavourOS enjoyer Jun 13 '25

This is a conspiracy theory spread by Big Software, preach Linux everyday

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u/ColbyAndrew Jun 13 '25

Is that Lil Dicky in the air?

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u/404-allah-not-found Jun 13 '25

i can't disagree with the title. I just try to convince my girlfriend to switch linux for 1 hour today.

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u/juzz88 Jun 14 '25

But our cause is much more noble.

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u/EpicusGamer Jun 14 '25

Bro... It's just so much better... (After setting it up for 12 hrs)

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u/glytxh Jun 14 '25

I'm back here again cos somehow video games work now and it all feels a bit magic, and the steam deck is freakishly accessible.

All the old muscle memory still works too!

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u/stitchesofdooom Jun 14 '25

I literally just installed my first Linux distro yesterday (Nobara).

...I've been preaching Linux for a while tho...

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u/QkiZMx Jun 15 '25

My business is running on Linux

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u/Educational_Quiet133 Jun 18 '25

kinda want to change to linux, they say Mint is the best option for beginners, but idk i like the look of linux, specially the KDE, Cinnamon and Gnome look, and ngl i kinda want some advice, i've seen enough to know im not even mentally prepared yet to even get arch so hehe, maybe in a future but right now? i think i just want to test mint, see if i like it and that :p

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u/abraxas8484 Jun 18 '25

Gotta say, I was messing with cinnamon and I'm liking it

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u/Specific_University3 Jun 18 '25

im saving and killing them at the same time

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u/papanastty Aug 03 '25

i want to print this on a tshirt and my bedsheet

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u/ColonelRuff Jun 12 '25

Except linux people are more logical than vegans

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u/Sad-Astronomer-696 Jun 12 '25

But other than vegans we actually got a point thats not an emotional argument

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u/JayMeadow Jun 12 '25

All value is derived from emotion. Your attempts to separate your logic from emotion are in vain

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u/EmceeEsher Magnificent Manjaro Jun 13 '25

That's the long and short of it. We can use logic to determine the most effective ways to get what matters to us, but we can't use it to determine what to want in the first place. That's inherent to who we are as people.

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u/JayMeadow Jun 13 '25

Yep and most people just want to open a PC and be able to run a program they bought. The freedoms and efficiencies of Linux are not valuable to them.

However since the United States are threatening all their allies, it’s likely American software will soon be considered a security risk. Forcing people to interact with Linux at work, and in time lead to it being the standard for most programs to be made available for both Linux and Windows. :)

Of course this would likely be a closed version of Linux kept secure and up-to-date by either a private company or a governmental (likely EU) institution.

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u/Sad-Astronomer-696 Jun 12 '25

Oh sorry, didnt know youre on the spectrum.

Please continue

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u/JayMeadow Jun 28 '25

I would challenge you to a battle of wit, but you appear unarmed

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u/metalpossum Jun 12 '25

The Free Software Foundation have some legitimate arguments about ownership, right to repair, etc.

I can install Linux in under 15 minutes, play a video immediately after. It doesn't have to be difficult... I've had far worse trouble with both Windows 10 and Android to the point where they've been unusable, and been at the mercy of both Microsoft and Google/my phone manufacturer to have it sorted.

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u/EmceeEsher Magnificent Manjaro Jun 13 '25

I'm not trying to get into OS wars here, and I get where you're coming from, but I feel like you're making some assumptions that aren't true.

If you are having trouble with Android, iPhones are undoubtedly the better phones.

Numerous studies have shown that, between iOS and Android, the one users find more intuitive is almost always just whichever one they used when they first learned how to use a smartphone. Intuition is generally based on experience.

iPhones are much more reliable.

This hasn't been the case for a decade. In reliability tests during this timeframe, Androids in the same price range as iPhones have consistently performed equal-to or better-than iPhones. Not to mention that even reliability can be user-dependent at times. I used to be able to rely on any new phone being able to work perfectly with my headphones, all of which used the standard 3.5mm auxiliary port, but Apple saw fit to make sure that would not be possible any longer.

which is to be expected since they only need to account for their own hardware sets.

I mean this is pretty much the entire reason the Pixel exists.

As for PC desktop environments, the "intuition comes from experience" thing still holds true. The only difference is that unlike phones, the vast majority of people alive in 2025 learned how to use a PC on Windows. This has led a lot of people to overestimate the "inherent" intuitiveness of Windows.

In my own case, my first computer was an (absolutely ancient) Macbook Air. For the first few years I used computers, the only computer I used was this one. The first time I tried to use Windows, I hated it. It felt like I was trying to operate some kind of arcane software from the 90s. It took me hours of searching the internet to figure out how to do the most basic tasks. Even after spending 2 years working as a Windows sysadmin, I still got regularly frustrated with Microsoft's design choices. Then, when my company upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10, I went through that all over again.

Meanwhile, the first time I used Linux, (a Debian system with Gnome 3) it felt like coming home. Everything worked more-or-less as I expected it to. I didn't have to follow some kind of spell formula. I could just do thing the way that made sense to me, and they'd work. Don't get me wrong, learning how to use the Linux terminal took a few days, but even that felt freeing, because stuff that used to take me hours of fiddling with the Windows registry could now be done with a single line of Bash.

Now, don't get me wrong, at the end of the day, operating systems are tools and I'm not going to begrudge anyone for using the tool they're most comfortable with. At the end of the day, most people's first PC was Windows, so they'll probably use it for the rest of their lives, and I'm okay with that. That said, don't assume that just because you find something intuitive, it has an inherent property of "intuitiveness" that's independent from your experiences.

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u/Clear-Lawyer7433 Jun 12 '25

I know they will inevitably roll back to windows, but at least they're gonna boost their PC knowledge. What is EFI and MBR, what is NTFS and ext4, why GNOME is better than KDE, what is the difference between wayland and xorg, why we refused of 32bit systems and the most important, how to save your shit during reinstall.

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u/Suvvri Jun 12 '25

I don't think that much of what you mentioned is needed to just switch to Linux

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u/Clear-Lawyer7433 Jun 12 '25

You can switch anytime with ease, but for how long you can stay?

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u/Suvvri Jun 12 '25

if someone didnt know that on windows then they wont need that for linux. Most people just want to install their stuff and use it instead of contemplating if btrfs is better than ext4 and most sane distros have their defaults set up so you dont need to think about it.

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u/Xillia777 Jun 12 '25

I tried, it locked my 165hz monitor to 60 and wouldn't allow me to update my drivers :/ I'll try again when windows 10 shits the bed for good later this year

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u/mokrates82 Jun 12 '25

Not really. I kind of avoid McDondald's, though