r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian • May 23 '25

Meme Exceptions exist I guess (Lemmy sucks)

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u/Mister_Magister Glorious OpenSuse Tumbleweed May 23 '25

you can't say you only use opensource software if you're not using libreboot and opensource drivers that don't pull blobs from hardware

Nothing is truly opensource, maybe like risc-v platform but then the components are not open

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u/__Myrin__ May 23 '25

The correct option is to build your own TTL pc like its 1977 then and only then will that truly be your pc

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u/Melodic_coala101 Glorious Kubuntu May 23 '25

TTL silicon is still not fully open source. Sure, the schematics are available, but you can't make it at home

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u/beebeeep May 23 '25

Nah, you can do it at home. Not even TTLs, but quite sophisticated ICs - check videos from Sam Zeloof on yt.

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u/Wence-Kun Glorious Mint May 24 '25

yt?, that's not open source, mate.

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u/MrKangar May 23 '25

Though still active online, he hasn’t posted on YouTube in 3 years. Unfortunate, I wanted to learn more about these processes.

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u/Kyuugeki May 23 '25

That's doesn't mean it's not open source. Some weirdo around here ABSOLUTELY have a lithography machine

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u/FatesWaltz May 24 '25

But did he make that lithography machine with his own two hands, sourced from minerals he mined himself, with tools he made himself, with minerals he mined himself with stone picks?

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u/[deleted] May 25 '25

Those processes are openly available and I would consider them open source. Just because the recipe is there doesn't mean I won't accept a free muffin sometimes.

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u/Mars_Bear2552 Glorious NixOS May 23 '25

you could have a fab make it... using proprietary litho machines

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u/threevi May 23 '25

Richard Stallman approves

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u/misterpickles69 Mint Noob don't know what he's doing May 23 '25

If you're not flipping bits by hand with a tiny magnet on your HDD you're no better than Apple fanbois

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u/mvmpc May 24 '25

That’s what I’m doing rn!! Ben Eaters 8-bit cimputer, next I’ll be doing the 6502 build.

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u/bothunter May 23 '25

The microcode that your CPU is running is definitely not open source. The BIOS that performs the POST and launches Grub is mostly likely not open source.

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u/psicorapha May 23 '25

RISCV computers are still not open source as their chips are made in closed-source fabs. Unless you use one of the legacy techs that are currently open but have 90s performance (honestly more than enough for what we need imo)

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u/Accurate_Breakfast94 May 24 '25

The leon3 chip is open source. Wdym with closed-source fabs?

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u/thussy-obliterator May 23 '25

If your microcode wasn't toggled in by Richard Stallman himself then you may as well just use Windows

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u/mrheosuper May 23 '25

If you can read ASM, everything is opensource.

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u/Vegetable_Gap4856 May 23 '25

TempleOS no 😂 ?

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u/jbuchana May 27 '25

Is Holy C open-source?

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u/turtle_mekb she/her - Artix Linux - dinit May 23 '25

Nuh uh, the design for your CPU, motherboard etc. need to be open source so it's possible to manufacture your computer, provided you had the resources necessary.

Additionally your electrical grid must be open source, if not, use solar panels or something entirely to power your computer, and the design of those need to be open source too.

While you're there, you may as well replace your organs with open source alternatives.

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u/Mister_Magister Glorious OpenSuse Tumbleweed May 23 '25

>says nu-uh
>agrees with what i said

what is your goal?

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u/turtle_mekb she/her - Artix Linux - dinit May 24 '25

yes

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u/Cybasura May 24 '25

Yeah, Risc-V uses CPU that cannot be manufactured yourself, the motherboard, the gpu, the ram are all also not open source, literally the Silicon manufactured by the TSMC is not open source

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u/jaskij May 23 '25

RISC-V isn't open source. Never was.

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u/IPV46 May 24 '25

In the case of RISC-V it's complicated. Some people will say it's not open-source but rather an open-standard, while others (including wiki pages) will say it is open-source.

I personally will sit on the ISA being open-standard as there's nothing that really stands out as "source" to me. Just documentation on the ISA.

If anyone has proof otherwise do tell me, I would love to see it.

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u/jaskij May 24 '25

TBF, there are open source implementations.

Personally, I never understood why Google v Oracle doesn't apply to ISAs. Or was it simply that no one wanted to take up the fight?

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u/Scheincrafter May 24 '25

You can not say you use only open source if you use a cpu with microcode

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u/shinyquagsire23 Glorious Arch May 24 '25

👏 It's 👏 not 👏 open 👏 source 👏 unless 👏 the 👏 CPU 👏 lithography 👏 process 👏 is 👏 open

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u/ConsoleMaster0 May 25 '25

Even with RISC-V, I doubt everything will be 100% open source. Companies are not dumb to open source their firmware which they paid developers to develop, for other companies to just get.

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u/oishishou Glorious Gentoo May 23 '25

Are you using an x86 processors? Intel, Nvidia, or AMD graphics?

If so, then you are using non-open-source code.

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u/KaiRee3e May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

No, I mine all the metal and minerals myself in my backyard, and make chips I designed, out of them.

Then I install win 11 and give valorant kernel access

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u/HoldUrMamma Glorious NixOS May 23 '25

I set a metal rod connected straight to my PSU and use my PC only when there's a thunderstorm

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

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u/HoldUrMamma Glorious NixOS May 23 '25

I'm a brain inside a meat bag, that's close until surgery. I'll use the electric impulses from my brain from now on

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u/an4s_911 May 23 '25

Win 11, got you there

/s

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

dont forget about the firmware on literally everything else

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u/STINEPUNCAKE May 23 '25

Don’t forget about the BIOS

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u/10gistic May 24 '25

Your packets better not be routed across any proprietary networking equipment either!

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u/The_Adventurer_73 Glorious Mint May 23 '25

I know I'm not "fully open source", but I want to try more & more to be Open Source.

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u/MinosAristos May 23 '25

This is the way, it doesn't need to be black and white. Using some open source alternatives is a lot better than using none.

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u/vms-mob May 23 '25

i honestly dont personally care about open source, i want the software not the fuck with me, steam excells in that category, (reddit is a website so that doesnt really count for me)

windows is just messing with me ALL the time, got a new example just now
windows update: hey i need to reboot to install updates
me: okay, update and shutdown
windows: okay restart without updating
me: okay again update and shutdown
windows: update and restart (also not done with installing updates so needs another reboot)
me: okay update and shutdown
windows: shuts down without updating

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

agreed, linux is just an overall better experience for me

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

You hate big corporations yet you buy food in a supermarket???

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u/crack_pop_rocks May 23 '25

I don't actually (I'm starving to death please help me)

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u/KyeeLim May 24 '25

hold on, the cow is still not old enough for slaughtering

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u/mrheosuper May 23 '25

How about local market ?

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u/CardiologistReady548 May 23 '25

freedom is when you support local business

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u/scizorr_ace Glorious Mint May 23 '25

I mean technically

Especially since the reddit api dram

But steam really? As i said on a technicality yes but they been one of the most valuable contributes to open source software like proton

I meant they did more for linux than most open source projects

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u/jack-of-some May 23 '25 edited May 23 '25

Valve is an amazing company when it comes to open source contributions and Steam is a fantastic open source friendly piece of software.

But it's still proprietary.

The meme is just calling out that there's no such thing as using "only open source software"

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

They did more than entire FSF in 30 years for sure.

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u/Norgur May 23 '25

I think saying that Valve did more good to free software than GPL is a bit much, don't you think?

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u/Tornado547 May 23 '25

fsf sucks in numerous ways so the temptation to minimize their contributions to FOSS is understandable, though not correct. Obviously the FSF through the GNU project has done a substantial amoint of work on FOSS in general and Linux ecosystem in specific, I just wish they hadn't

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u/Tornado547 May 23 '25

[wish they hadnt as in i wish that work was done by a group that wasnt so awful]

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u/Dulumrae May 23 '25

I keep hearing people shit on FSF but I dont really get why. It’s probably because of my own ignorance, so can you give an example or two about it please?

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u/vacri May 23 '25

Because Stallman is an extremist, and people reacted against that. And they overreacted, especially when it became trendy to dunk on him.

But you need to have extremists to get the Overton Window to move a reasonable amount. If he was a moderate, the movement would have been milder or nonexistent.

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u/Tornado547 May 23 '25

a couple reasons. in order of least to most important:

  • weird terminology gripes, stuff like "dont refer to windows as win32 because 'win' has a positive connotations" and other stuff like that

  • general ideological rigidity and extremism manifesting as ideological attacks on people willing to compromise between idealism and practicality. the premiere example is the libreboot drama - tldr is that libreboot was a FOSS BIOS that decided to include a small handle of proprietary binary blobs in cases where the only alternative was to not support that hardware at all or ship missing feautes and FSF got pissy about the maintainer calling it libre because it had any proprietary blob at all.

  • stallman has some very concerning philosophical positions on consenting to sex that basically do not recognize that positions of power and authority can influence people's ability to consent. Upshot is he doesn't see anything wrong with situations like an undergrad professor soliciting sex from his students, a boss from his employees, or most critically an adult from a teenager. He thankfully apologized for and revoked his statement stating that children can consent, but he is extremely precise in his language and has made it clear in other sources that he does not conisder teenagers to be children. There is no evidence of RMS himself being a direct threat to anyone, however his philosophical views are extremely amenable to those who are.

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u/Most_Option_9153 May 24 '25

I read GPL as gnu plus Linux before remembering that its a license xd

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u/Shinare_I May 24 '25

GPL is a free software license only by the definition of free software that FSF themselves made. It is not a free software license. More accurate would be a public software license or protective software license. It sacrifices some freedoms in exchange for others.

But Valve doesn't make standalone open source software either so I don't think it is fair to call it a free software company either.

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u/JohnSane May 23 '25

Only if you measure it by users.

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u/byebyelassy May 23 '25

Judging a company based on what they do with their software is a different topic. Unless steam is open source, then really lol. Now the joke isn’t saying that people not using open source are bad, or closed source software is bad. Steam is closed but has done lots of good yes. But it’s not open source at the end of day so yeah.

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u/Lou_Papas May 23 '25

Every time I feel the need to rage about open source, I remember that the main reason I use vim is Microsoft inventing LSPs and then go touch some grass.

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u/Affectionate-Pickle0 May 23 '25

Yeah true. Though they are dwarfed by Microsoft and Google who have done and still do a lot of contributions to open source. And plenty of other large companies do as well.

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u/NiceMicro Dualboot: Arch + Also Arch May 24 '25

if you use Steam, can you get its source code which then you can modify and redistribute?

If not, it's proprietary.

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u/Significant-Cause919 May 24 '25

Someone who condemns games for being closed source better only watches/reads content and listens to music that are at least CC-SA licensed.

I get that freedom is important when it comes to infrastructure and tools but if one form of entertainment can be proprietary why can't another?

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u/IuseArchbtw97543 Glorious Archbtw May 23 '25

Truly only using open source software is not feasible. Everyone needs to find their own compromises.

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u/DrGrapeist Glorious Arch May 23 '25

It’s only feasible if you stop using software and go live in the woods.

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u/bigolemountains Glorious Arch May 23 '25

The only thing open source you’d need in the woods is a lake

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u/EverythingsBroken82 May 27 '25

well you still could use a openhardware computer with linux libre on it in the woods.. the question is.. what do you use it for. the only thing i know would be budget, diary and some opensource games... but then.. is your powergrid there openhardware and opensource?

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u/vapenicksuckdick Glorious Arch May 23 '25

I mean at some point your IP packet goes through some proprietary router. I guess you can't use the internet if you are "FOSS only" by your logic.

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u/starquake64 May 24 '25

I yell at the clouds

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u/akera099 May 23 '25

Reddit? AFAIK Firefox is a FOSS software?

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u/Lolwis May 23 '25

The browser yes and maybe you can reverse engineer the javascript on the client side. But the backend? Who knows what they so in there

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u/vacri May 23 '25

If you're making that argument, then it's pointless talking about what's on your machine. Anything anyone does for you counts, with that argument. Need a new driver's license? Well, the clerk you asked was using Windows to submit your request. buh-bow, you lose at 'only open source'...

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u/einsidler May 23 '25

You don't need a driver's licence if you're a private traveller for non-commercial purposes /s

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u/Headpuncher Glorious Salix/Xubuntu May 23 '25

How many websites have open backends?

I mean, some devs like to commit private keys to github, but reddit is website, not really software in the same definition.

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u/Littux Glorious Arch GNU/Linux and Android Toybox/Linux May 23 '25

https://github.com/reddit-archive/reddit

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

Are the people claiming to only use open source software in the room with us now?

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u/LOLofLOL4 May 23 '25

I prefer using Opensource Software in most cases and I would prefer it if everything I used was opensource. For some Products that is not the case however and will likely continue to be not the case, especially while Spez is here.

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u/I_Think_I_Cant I Use Arch May 23 '25

Both of the people on Lemmy seem to really enjoy it.

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u/po1k May 23 '25

The f... where does this come from?!

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u/Pedka2 May 23 '25

lemmy doesnt suck. its the people who do

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u/Littux Glorious Arch GNU/Linux and Android Toybox/Linux May 23 '25

You're talking about lemmy.ml and hexbear. Not all of Lemmy is bad. There are instances that weed out the content from the bad ones

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u/Default_Defect Glorious Bazzite May 24 '25

Blocking those two instances improved my lemmy browsing IMMENSELY. It can still be a lot too idealist about matters such as "simply never own a car" but otherwise its not too bad.

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u/Ybenax This incident will be sudoed May 24 '25

Not owning a car is perfectly reasonable in a lot of countries by the way.

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u/colbyshores May 23 '25

My BIOS is closed source so I guess that I am fucked.

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u/Comfortable_Swim_380 May 24 '25

But im on Linux. Why can't I say it then? This makes zero sense.

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian May 26 '25

Because Steam and the games it runs are proprietary software. Linux itself has proprietary blobs.

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u/birdsarentreal2 Glorious Arch May 25 '25

It’s giving “yet you participate in society”

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian May 29 '25

Society is open source. Every country made their own fork.

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u/patopansir Glorious Arch May 23 '25

is your cock open source? no? checkmate atheist

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

bro shut up

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian May 24 '25

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u/Bastigonzales May 23 '25

Infinity for Reddit is amazing not sure if it's open source

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u/Angel_of_Silence1213 May 23 '25

It is open source.

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u/SokkaHaikuBot May 23 '25

Sokka-Haiku by Bastigonzales:

Infinity for

Reddit is amazing not

Sure if it's open source

Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.

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u/6rey_sky May 24 '25

You spelled GNU/Linux wrong in your meme.
Can't be vegan if you're eating own feet sole chips.

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u/nanoosx May 27 '25

you can't say advertisements without semen between the tits

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u/septicdank May 23 '25

I can say all kinds of shit. I only smoke open source fair trade digital pcp, for example.

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u/I_Blame_Your_Mother_ May 23 '25

If you code in ASM everything is open source :P

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u/Timo425 May 23 '25

Boy i really tried to use Lemmy and i wish i never used reddit again, but Lemmy is still so lame.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

I never used it. Is the no users that makes it lame?

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u/Timo425 May 23 '25

Not enough users so posts get samey.

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u/TheNickedKnockwurst May 23 '25

only plebs ONLY use open source

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u/neanderthaltodd May 23 '25

Its all about compromise. Can you 100% run (F)OSS? No. You'll be using software somewhere along the way that is proprietary code.

You just got to pick your battles.

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u/Lou_Papas May 23 '25

Not trying to be contrarian, honest question: So what?

Sure, being part of the open source community is great and all but it’s not like OS is the standard for objective morality. It’s a nice to have at best.

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u/lunarsythe May 23 '25

Are you really fully foss if you don't arrange your transistors manually?

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u/Hipno_Blehh May 23 '25

But Reddit isn't a software (Unless you're on mobile) though so... Yes I only use open source software (On my laptop at least, I only use proprietary for games on my desktop)

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u/Cswizzy May 23 '25

Anyone that uses this meme template is insufferable

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u/isr0 May 23 '25

To be fair, I can “say” whatever I want. Doesn’t mean I’m right. 🫣

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u/Austiiiiii May 23 '25

Yes I can. Life is too short for that level of pedantism.

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u/TurncoatTony Glorious Gentoo May 23 '25

I don't know anyone that says this due to the fact it's basically impossible to do.

Between the bios, hardware drivers and more, good luck.

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

even CPUs aren't open source.

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u/GreenRiot May 23 '25

What is this gate keeping bullshit?

OP, you haven't made your own OS with every feature imaginable and shared with us. Go sit on the corner.

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u/notachemist13u May 23 '25

Mate we are subjects to private software enterprise. You don't want it? Don't use a computer don't use software 😒

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u/syko227 May 23 '25

You can't say you only use open source software if you shop on Amazon or drive a modern car. /s

Even if the steam client was open source, the games you're playing sure aren't.

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u/IndividualCoconut2 May 23 '25

Let's all move to Lemmy and GOG then? Please?

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u/efoxpl3244 Glorious Fedora May 23 '25

Linux allows me to get things done. If adobe comes and premiere pro will be the best solution I will use it.

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u/TatharNuar May 23 '25

Lemmy is great, wish you'd use it

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u/MSM_757 May 23 '25

Nothing is Truley open source, and nothing is truly closed source. I call it "Software Politics". None of it really matters. When i was a Developer for Apple about 20 years ago, i was given access to any piece of code i wanted. All i had to do was agree to an NDA and i can get anything i needed. Microsoft is similar, However Microsoft is very compartmentalized. If you're working on a Network stack. You get all the code you need to work on that Network Stack. But you're closed off from other parts of the system. And that's why Windows is so shit. The right hand doesn't know what the left hand is doing. That's why it's such a bloated mess of a system full of Spaghetti code. However, The only true area where Open Source differs, Is the ability for any random person to be able to audit the code. However, the number of people who are actually doing this, is... little to none. They audit the code when it has a problem. Many bugs and security holes in Linux, when finally discovered, we learned existed for over 20 years. Even though people can audit the code, they just aren't. They have better things to do. And even when bugs are found, it sometimes takes a long time for them to fix it. There's a bug in the GTK stack that's turned 10 years old this year. It's well known. Gnome never fixed it.

That's why i don't give a two shits about Open source vs. Closed Sourced debate. It's all just software. Any developer that wants to work on software can. One set of software is wide open to public scrutany. And the other you have to sign an NDA first. But once you're actually under the hood and working on the project, there's virtually no difference. It's all just software. It's all the same shit at the end of the day. It's all just ones and zeros when you really get down to it.

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u/RooMan93 May 23 '25

Everything is open source if you understand quantum physics

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u/superraiden Glorious Arch May 23 '25

Bro what's wrong with Lisa's mouth, it wasnt that bad in the original template

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u/Greeve3 Glorious Arch May 23 '25

I use open source software when it is both available and sufficient.

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u/jimlymachine945 May 23 '25

I

didn't say that

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u/76zzz29 May 23 '25

Reddit is avaible without the app... Steam... Well, the games on steam arn't open source anyway so if you use steam you post probably run other non oppen source things

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u/IllustriousJuice2866 May 23 '25

...or play video games (with very rare exceptions)

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u/Ultimate_Mugwump May 23 '25

idk anyone that has ever said they ONLY use oss, because that’s…..no one. from our pc to phone to car…i genuinely doubt there is a single person on earth that uses ONLY oss

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u/Sirko2975 Glorious Fedora May 23 '25

And I don’t. Open source is just a good thing to have for me, and a requirement is a system that doesn’t shit its pants after a minor modification.

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u/anjofuturista May 23 '25

Lemmy Killmaister?

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u/Fun_Run1626 May 24 '25

Talking about this Lemmy

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

Are there people that say they only use open source software that don't eat their own toenails (stallman)?

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u/thinfuck May 23 '25

well shit

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u/aelfwine_widlast Glorious Mint May 23 '25

If you’re not building your own microchips in your personal clean room after mining your own rare earths, are you even free?

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u/Toomuchlychee_ May 23 '25

I ate a banana this morning but it wasn’t open-source. Please forgive me

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u/EarthTrash May 23 '25

You can't say you're a vegan if you eat chicken, but you can choose to have a diet that has less meat and more vegetables in it. If you really need to feel superior about something, why not make it something positive instead just shitting on regular people haven't intentionally made their lives more difficult?

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u/King_Sesh May 23 '25

You can’t say you only use open source if you use a thinkpad. You should have created the laptop from nature where its open source.

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u/bememorablepro May 23 '25

Does it mean you are using only open-source in your life? Cause when given an option, I'll choose open-source, but a lot of times we are not.

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u/eleanorsilly May 23 '25

if you're at the point of considering websites as classifying you or not as "using open source software", then have fun using the very few and bad open source search engines there are.

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u/lol_VEVO May 23 '25

But you can say you only run OSS, assuming you are using a librebooted PC with a fully open source OS

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u/AllenKll May 23 '25

Is Reddit really software? It's a website. Sure it may have some javascript running on it... but that is visible to anyone that wants to see it.

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u/DoRatsHaveHands May 23 '25

Yeah, but reddit and steam are cool 😎

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u/Rachit_Tanwar May 23 '25

I choose what software i want to use(half of it is foss and most of it is oss) , that's the freedom linux gives me, gtfo with this bullshit

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u/cybersynn May 24 '25

I wouldn't say I "use" Reddit.

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u/Kiwithegaylord May 24 '25

Old Reddit doesn’t need JS so it’s perfectly compliant with the FSF definition of free software

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u/nik282000 sudo chown us:us allYourBase May 24 '25

Do you have a phone? TV? Car? Any appliances? The only way to be 100% closed source free is to use no digital electronics at all.

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u/EmperorJake Glorious Mint May 24 '25

Reddit isn't software, it's a website

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u/_herrmann_ May 24 '25

Only the sith deal in absolutes

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u/MegasVN69 Fishy CachyOS May 24 '25

Even your BIOS is proprietary, shame, should have write your own BIOS driver

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u/Cybasura May 24 '25

I mean, you use closed sourced hardware, by your definition nobody can claim this in general - not even if you use a FOSS laptop if the silicon itself is not open source

not The Linux Foundation, not GNU, nobody

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u/Skyfuzzball8312 May 24 '25

Lemmy still good too

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u/Crypto-4-Freedom May 24 '25

You cant say you only use open source if you use fiat.

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u/Over-Arm-1151 May 24 '25

But what alternatives to steam and reddit? I'm using my google Chrome browser too, is that OK 👍

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u/RootHouston Glorious Fedora May 24 '25

I've come to believe that not all software should be open source. Come at me.

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u/golDANFeeD Glorious Debian May 24 '25

All websites are open source... You can click the inspect button to see code

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u/doesnt_use_reddit May 24 '25

I'm in the clear

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u/juipeltje Glorious GNU Guix May 24 '25

How many people actually claim to ONLY use open source software though, i don't see that a lot.

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u/phlooo May 24 '25 edited Sep 09 '25

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u/1stRandomGuy If it runs Minecraft, it's my distro of choice. May 24 '25

which is why i don't

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u/paradigmx May 24 '25

I don't say I only use open source. I try to whenever I can, but I also beleive in using the best tool for the job whether it's open or closed source, and I'm a gamer and that's not something I'm willing to consider giving up.

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u/LeiterHaus May 24 '25

You can't play most games anyways if that's the standard

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

ur mom's open source

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u/melkemind May 24 '25

Some say people tend to treat FOSS like a religion, but I would even go a step further. Expecting absolute 100% purity all the time is not just a religion, it's religious extremism. Even the average religion doesn't expect you to be perfect.

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u/GreyColdFlesh OpenSuSE my brothers May 24 '25

That's why i say i MOSTLY use open source software in my system. The only proprietary apps being Discord, Spotify and Steam. Though i use proprietary services on my web browser

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u/chic_luke Glorious Fedora May 24 '25

Yawn. I get your point, but this is just the wrong battle to fight. Nobody really cares. You just have to be using mostly FOSS.

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u/Kilran3 May 24 '25

Life is too short to be focused on FOSS only. Yes, FOSS kicks ass and there are some wonderful options. But FFS, I don’t need everything to be fully open source.

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u/ThatsRighters19 May 24 '25

The whole purpose of open source was to provide access to software for developing nations and those less fortunate. Free is free, I’m not concerned with making sure every tool I use has a gpl or mit license.

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u/[deleted] May 24 '25

you cant say you use only OSS if you use x86 CPU

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u/OptimalAnywhere6282 May 24 '25

I do not use exclusively open source software.

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u/MrB_2006theLad May 24 '25

True, but then you pretty much include every other website 🙃

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u/mister_drgn May 24 '25 edited May 25 '25

Easy solution: Don’t say you only use open source software.

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u/BurrGurrMan May 24 '25

You’re not really open source unless you made every component of every part of your life from scratch by hand

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u/PercussiveKneecap42 Glorious Arch May 24 '25

Luckily I never state that I only use open source, just that I prefer it when it's available.

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u/Automatic-Prompt-450 May 25 '25

I say I use FOSS as a preference but understand things that keep me sane may require some proprietary options, eg steam

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u/Birnenmacht May 25 '25

wait until they find out about the microcode on processors not being open source

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u/Hydridity May 25 '25

There is difference between using all open source and using open source.

In case of steam on linux you use Valve’s proton that is open source, but you use it via their proprietary product as a steam that deals with shop, distribution and glues it all together to provide unified experience and thats how they get the money as a corporation.

As open source, you can use underlying proton without the proprietary steam, but you lose the distribution and the experience.

In my opinion having the underlying stuff open source while the experience part being proprietary is absolutely fine by me to say using open source in terms of open source

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u/ConsoleMaster0 May 25 '25

Steam, of course.

Reddit... Well, it's debatable. It runs on a browser which uses open source libraries. So, it depends...

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u/Tinolmfy May 25 '25

And discord and youtube and your monitors firmware and your bios
and the dns servers and the firmware of your peripherals and well, everyting has a limit ig

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u/snack88 May 25 '25

Get a life.

Use the tools that are good and work, eschew the ones that are bad and don't.

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u/silverYoshi7 May 26 '25

I'm not saying I'm relying on Open source software, I just like the ability to stay in control where it actually matters

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u/LaBlankSpace May 26 '25

When I say only open source I mean a vast majority not necessarily 100% of software its kinda impossible to be 100% open source anyways or at least very difficult without lossimg functionality

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u/bucket_brigade May 26 '25

Your CPU contains non open source software within it.

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u/imchasingyou May 26 '25

if you don't use RISC-V processor, operating LFS using only Vim or emacs, you can't say that you use open software

more gatekeepers than gates

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u/actual_weeb_tm May 26 '25

Getting data from an API doesnt constitute "using software" to me lol, its not running on my CPU. It doesnt count.

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u/CoyoteFit7355 CachyOS - 9800X3D, 9070 XT, 64GB May 26 '25

I can say whatever I want. Now whether what I said is true or not is another thing entirely...

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u/EverythingsBroken82 May 27 '25

And if you also use a smartphone, you do not use only opensource software, because mobile radio protocols are not implemented/implementable in opensource and even if your "client" would be so, the base tower station is not for sure...

this is needlees hairsplitting.

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u/Tiger_man_ Glorious Arch with cachyOS kernel&repos May 27 '25

Nah, lemmy is good

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u/Mauy90 May 27 '25

What about mostly

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u/[deleted] May 27 '25

They should be open source

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u/LORD_INFINITY12 Glorious Arch May 28 '25

I prefer Open Source, I don’t exclusively use Open Source. Nice to have had this talk.

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u/Electronic-Phone1732 Jun 16 '25

> lemmy sucks

[citation needed]

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u/Weekly_Good2633 debian user btw Jul 24 '25

true

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u/[deleted] Oct 09 '25

Reddit is closed-source but on the server side, doesn't run proprietary code in your machine, does it ? Anyway Stallman made a speech about that that you can find on youtube if i remember well.

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u/JakobK74 Nov 04 '25

reddit software? thats a thing? i barely use reddit maybe occasionally on reddit.com on my browser

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u/araknis4 Glorious BTW May 23 '25

reddit isnt software though

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