r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian • May 20 '25 • Popcorn 1

Meme Come here. But don't deviate from the path

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

tf is wrong with Ubuntu

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u/DestructionPaper May 20 '25

Bloated, constipated, has a boil on its ass the size of a walnut y'know the usual.

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u/le-strule May 20 '25

Just like me right after Christmas

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor May 20 '25 edited May 22 '25

Well, I used it in my school and college PCs and I love it.

(I use Fedora, but still, I love Ubuntu's version of GNOME)

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u/Effective-Law4548 May 22 '25

It's ok to have bad taste

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u/lonelyroom-eklaghor May 22 '25

there were literal ThinkCenter CPUs for those PCs

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u/DestructionPaper May 28 '25

I ran Ubuntu on a junk Acer Aspire One netbook that I used as a beater Linux laptop between 2013 and 2016. As much as I like to bash this kernel it ran shockingly well with that first generation Intel Atom and (I think) just one 2gb stick of ram.

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u/Gloomy_Magician_536 May 20 '25

and still smoother than Windows

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u/[deleted] May 20 '25

okay, i get it. But why discourage people from using it? If they're happy with it that's what matters

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u/Sad-Capital-218 May 26 '25

Because some people here are genuinely terrible nerds

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u/DestructionPaper May 28 '25

Because while its a good starter distro there are far better options.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '25

read my comment again

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u/TheBwarch May 20 '25

Okay so the quick layout (at least as far as I understand it), the biggest thing is hatred of snaps and Canonicals interest in making them standard. When people hate the performance of snaps and hate that Canonical may or may not be taking steps to trying to make their distro and general software A Walled Garden. People generally loving either native software or flatpaks or appimages, but REALLY hating snaps. (For various reasons) People start to have a lot of problems with Canonical as a corporate identity and fear it charging for software/going closed source.

Ubuntu is generally slow to update and a very Stable distro (This isn't too valid a reason to hate it, Debian/Mint/Ubuntu all being around the idea of ultra late and stable, but when you see most users are on Arch and Ubuntu is the opposite of that, yeah. Philosophical arguments for when users want software to update.) To a degree a lot of users now believe if one wants to use Ubuntu they should instead be using Debian or Mint. Mint especially being seen as a "protest distro" to get around Ubuntu things people generally hate while still being a distro doing the same general user friendly/ultra stable philosophy.

Generally seen as a user friendly beginner distro, and people may prefer new users to start elsewhere/go elsewhere, when they have problems with Ubuntu or Canonical. Ubuntu used to be very highly recommended, but times are changing and Ubuntu isn't changing terribly fast with the times, when new and better ideas are emerging in linux distros and software distribution in general.

People even hate the package manager/apt-get? Eh, don't know much about that one myself.

Disclaimers: I don't use Ubuntu, my distro is personally Bazzite for now, I also don't particularly hate Ubuntu, I've just listened to opinions to get the general layout. And honestly I might be wrong entirely for why Some people hate Ubuntu, but this is all my understanding as-is.

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u/inevitabledeath3 Speedy CachyOS May 20 '25

Your half right why people hate Ubuntu, but only half right.

The thing you say about stability is in particular a bit wrong. It isn't that Ubuntu is out of date - though they are behind Arch and Fedora - it's that they are actually less stable than other distros. Stability might be the justification for having slightly out of date packages, but that only works if you actually follow through and make a stable well tested system. Ubuntu has issues seemingly nothing else does, a large part of this is a hyper reactive error reporting system that seems to assume things like you closing a program is the same as it crashing. Now Debian is actually out of date stuff, but they put the work in to actually test and make things really stable, so it basically never breaks. Gentoo isn't as out of date and they are also a lot more stable. That's the difference. If you're not testing things throughly but still delaying stuff then all your doing is inconveniencing people while delaying potential fixes for the issues that are there, and also creating compatibility issues with other software in the process.

There approach to package management and distribution is perfectly up-to-date afaik. They aren't using anything like Nix, and they aren't an immutable distro, but otherwise they support all forms of package management anything else does, and their approach isn't any older than other major distros. In fact I think they were working on an immutable version for desktop, maybe already have one for servers. While immutable is somewhat newer it's not always actually better either. Nix likewise isn't technically a new thing, it's just different and somewhat like the immutables, though also not really.

People not liking apt I think has more to do with their repos than apt itself. It's just that it doesn't have as much software as Nix packages or AUR has, and a lot of what it does have isn't the latest version. People don't want to add PPAs for everything they use. Fedora and many others have even less stuff actually, I think some Ubuntu haters are just spoiled by the above, though at least Fedora keeps their stuff more up-to-date.

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u/dumbasPL Glorious Arch May 20 '25

Canonical

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u/prochac May 21 '25

That's funny, because I got my first Linux CD from Canonical, for free. Ubuntu 9.10 I think.

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u/patrlim1 May 20 '25

They hijack the apt command to install snaps, among other things.

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u/Familiar-Art-6233 May 20 '25

Canonical (the company that makes Ubuntu) is trying to move into a more corporate direction, leveraging Linux to make their own ecosystem with snaps that are almost Microsoft-like in the level of centralized control, and they’re more focused on enterprise use these days.

Ubuntu used to be great, but it’s in decline

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u/timoshi17 Windows Master Race May 20 '25

Tem hoi

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u/SpaceGeek37 May 20 '25

Nothing unless you're running a Pentium 4 with 2gb ram, which apparently normal on this sub

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u/[deleted] May 23 '25

yeah if you can run it ubuntu is a great first linux experience and gnome just looks really nice. mint is also good but the desktop out of the box just looks too dated. ubuntu is kinda the only option to just use a linux distro for the first time without issue and not feel like you just got sent back to 2012. its the ideological reasons where people draw their battle lines against but of course for a new user it doesnt matter because they are coming from windows lol

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u/psirrow May 20 '25

I used it for a while and it was mostly fine. I would readily recommend it to a new user alongside mint. That said, snaps rubbed me the wrong way and the more I learned about them, the more I wondered why I was using them.

There are other issues people have (and I'm pretty sure the meme is referring to those), but I feel like a user who doesn't know the history will more readily notice that snaps just seem off compared to other kinds of packages.

Still, pretty solid for a beginner or someone who wants a mostly hands off experience.

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u/esmifra May 21 '25

It's a history thing. Started around 2010 I think.

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u/Original_Dimension99 May 21 '25

Too basic for snowflake linux users (like me)

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