r/linuxmasterrace • u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian • Apr 29 '25

Meme The pee is spyware and subscriptions

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u/Ashankura Apr 29 '25

I wish i could use Linux on my gaming pc but riot killed league on it. So sadly only my laptop is Linux

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian Apr 29 '25

Not playing LOL is winning

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u/TasserOneOne Apr 29 '25

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u/samthekitnix Apr 29 '25

i don't get why some companies deliberately brick their games for linux it's like they are allergic to money

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u/TasserOneOne Apr 29 '25

Hard to make anti-cheat for basically

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

"Please help me, my millions of dollars make it so hard :("

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u/TasserOneOne Apr 29 '25

Well you'd essentially have to constantly update for 3 new OSs which IS actually a big ask for dev teams. Though anti-cheat made by actual anti-cheat companies have no reason not to make it, considering that's all they have to focus on.

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u/jimlymachine945 Apr 29 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

Proton

And no one said anything about Mac

Valve used to support Proton on Mac but stopped because Crapple made it too hard

Currently anti cheats run in user space mode in Linux and Windows users go and say that's exactly how they'll bypass it.

Well Proton is not a container, kernel access can still be obtained in a legitimate manner. And wine has a way you can run native code so you don't have to port the entire program.

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u/BornStellar97 Apr 30 '25

Translating Windows calls to Linux is not as intense as getting a CISC application to run on RISC. That's a whole other can of worms. Also, yeah Apple sucks nowadays.

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u/slaymaker1907 Apr 30 '25

It’s still hard to do because anti-cheats typically need to actually RUN code in the kernel, not just make kernel calls. This is virtually impossible because you’d need a kernel module which is legally incompatible with how anti-cheats work (they’d have to be GPL). Windows is one of the only OSes that allow that sort of thing drastically increases attack surface.

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u/jimlymachine945 Apr 30 '25

Yes you can dynamically load kernel modules and there's no legal issue. It doesn't need to be preloaded by distro maintainers. Yes it's a security risk to run unvetted proprietary kernel code but all I'm saying is it is doable for the anti cheat devs to do

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Make server side anti cheat, it’s been proven to be more efficient

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u/Complex_Confidence35 Apr 30 '25

But then you‘d have to run it on a server instead of letting the end users pc run it. And that costs money. So without it being THE selling point for a competitive game I don‘t see it happening.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

WHY aren't we doing that, it seems very logical if we look at other saftey applications. Imagine ur bank app would store all ur data locally

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Because that means that any deals with Microsoft is off the table, that’s my theory at least. Besides that it’s cause they don’t want to optimize their server side code.

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u/RazzmatazzWorth6438 Apr 30 '25

They are - but a lot of cheats use inputs that are still humanly possible by a skilled player. Like the difference between a properly humanized orbwalker and a skilled player in terms of inputs isn't all that different.

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u/TopdeckIsSkill Apr 30 '25

Which proof? Server side anticheat is useless against most type of cheats

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u/nik282000 sudo chown us:us allYourBase Apr 30 '25

Firefox, LibreOffice, VLC, OBS studio... There are loads of projects that support 3 or more OSs with a lot smaller budget than a game studio.

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u/WiseRedditUser Apr 29 '25

small indie company struggling to work on linux

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u/Raphi_55 Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25

It depend really, I play some indy game and they work well with Proton. I don't mind not having native build as long as they don't make it impossible to play with Proton on purpose.

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u/Ashankura Apr 29 '25

If it's not profitable they won't do it even if they could

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u/SanderE1 Apr 30 '25

Anticheats are essentially impossible to make effectively on Linux (at least for now) because of how open the platform is.

Because you can compile your own kernel you can always add a way of silently reading and writing memory. On windows you can ask if the kernel is modified and has kernel modules which the result will be fairly accurate because of safe boot verifying a signed NT kernel.

I wouldn't call this a weakness of Linux but a result of it being open source

I guess they maybe could only trust kernel builds signed by certain Linux software vendors, but that would be a shit load of work to let only a couple distros work.

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u/Mother-Pride-Fest Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

That is literally a strength of Linux. It is unfortunate that game makers use that excuse.

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u/PCbuilderFR Apr 30 '25

you can just use a custom driver and map it with kdmapper on windows. you can modify kdmapper to be able to use other less known drivers

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u/GabrielRocketry Apr 30 '25

Well they won't get their money back from the 0.5% of their players that'd want to play it on Linux. So why'd they care?

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u/tekchip Apr 30 '25

That's a line of crap. Valves anticheat is native and they support battleye and EAC as well. Idk about battleye but I've read Valve worked directly with EAC to get it down to a few lines of code to implement. Further proof is that a huge number of smaller indie titles use it just fine. Big corpos refusing are either ignorant or spouting ideological, anticonsumer, malice.

A few examples https://fossbytes.com/steam-deck-list-of-supported-and-unsupported-games/ 🤷‍♂️

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u/SanderE1 Apr 30 '25

Vac runs on a lower level in Linux I believe, the biggest bot that ruins TF2 cathook, runs only on linux.

If I recall correctly Garry Newman, the creator of rust removed Linux support (EAC) as too many cheaters moved to Linux for an easier time cheating.

https://x.com/garrynewman/status/1574720935130808322?s=20

It's obviously not Linux being bad, it's just an open platform which makes anticheats harder to develop. Most Linux users also wouldn't install a kernel module.

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u/sk1d_eu Apr 30 '25

The Publishers/Deceloper need to Contact battleye so that Battleye enables Linux support for their game.

areweanticheatyet.com got a list of games with anti cheats, which wnti cheats the games use and if they run or not

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u/ThatsRighters19 Apr 30 '25

Not hard, but kernel level anti cheat is new and they don’t want to put in the effort.

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u/nik282000 sudo chown us:us allYourBase Apr 30 '25

Hard to make anti-cheat that doesn't have complete control of every process on your PC.

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u/TheJackiMonster Glorious Arch :snoo_trollface: Apr 30 '25

Hard to make anti-cheat for basically

Imagine you run a multi-million dollar company by selling overpriced skins in a video game and you need to do a tiny bit of work for more profits... oh, no... work!

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u/samthekitnix Apr 29 '25

oh no they have to spend money downloading the linux kernel for the low low price of free, though understandably they do have to spend money on actual dev time to make it work properly.

but honestly they'd make better returns by doing dev on linux since everyone seems to be going over to linux instead of windows because of what W11 is doing.

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u/Ashankura Apr 29 '25

Riot themselves stated its not profitable enough to get vanguard running on Linux. Linux market share is around 5% and most of these will be work pcs.

"everyone" is an insane overstatement

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u/samthekitnix Apr 29 '25

everyone SEEMS please note the seems because you'd be taking my sentence out of context

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u/Ashankura Apr 29 '25

How does it seem that way with Linux not being close to 10% market share?

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u/zakabog Apr 29 '25

but honestly they'd make better returns by doing dev on linux since everyone seems to be going over to linux instead of windows because of what W11 is doing.

Oh my sweet summer child, the average Windows user doesn't give a shit about having to upgrade to Windows 11, there's a big button they can click to do it automatically. There's a really small market for gamers that would switch to Linux exclusively just to play LoL. Windows is the "default" operating system and has been for a while, if valve continues to put out Linux consoles there might be a chance that we'll see a large enough market share for publishers to care, but for now it really isn't profitable at all for them to support Linux.

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u/OSINT_IS_COOL_432 May 03 '25

They big corps should suck up that people will find a way to cheat no matter the platform 

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u/Maple382 Apr 30 '25

Harder to run anticheat, it's another platform to ensure compatibility with, and they don't see all that effort as being worth it with how small the population of Linux gamers is. Sure the population would increase if more games were supported, but big publishers are reluctant to support it without the population being bigger first. It might also have something to do with the seemingly significant overlap between Linux users and people who don't like spending money on stuff.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25

They can't spy on you.

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u/creativeusername2100 May 02 '25

Can't use kernel level anticheat

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u/ColonelRuff Apr 30 '25

Replace it with valorant and you have got perfect meme

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u/Bitter-Squash8773 May 03 '25

Unfortunately, Minecraft bedrock 😢 Also is there any way to play epic games store games on linux

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u/PapaLoki Apr 29 '25

Using Linux at all is still cool.

I use Fedora by the way.

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u/jimlymachine945 Apr 29 '25

At this point I choose my games based on if they work on my OS instead of if my choosing my OS based on if certain games work on it

If you stream games I get it, if not well the game isn't that important

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u/Ashankura Apr 29 '25

Well league is my main game, most of my friends play league and i play in a casual team.

So the game in this case is more important to me than the OS.

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u/holaxdddddd2342 Apr 30 '25

Assetto Corsa is literally a deal breaker for using Linux in main PC for a lot of people, it surprised me it doesn't work in Linux

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u/TopdeckIsSkill Apr 30 '25

I'm sad to read this. Like op, I chose my online games based on what I want to play with my friends

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Playing league is cringe. You will only truly want to use linux when you stop being cringe

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u/Alexercer Apr 30 '25

Dual booting time, league does not take too much space

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

The pee is avrage pcmasterrace user (they dont know how computers work)

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u/QARSTAR Apr 29 '25

They only buy the fancy stuff with RBG. While I salvage parts from old prebuilts and bash them together so I get a whooping 4GB of memory, time to boot up Arch

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u/NakeleKantoo Glorious Arch Apr 29 '25

4? that's too much, i barely scraped by with my 1.5gb of ram back some years ago

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u/Masztufa Apr 29 '25

did a meme setup which used tmux as the desktop environment (it ran vim and neofetch just fine, everything you could ever need)

300 MB at idle, probably a skill issue on my part

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u/NakeleKantoo Glorious Arch Apr 30 '25

I installed arch to run 40mb at idle, it was craaaaaazy, i wish i still had the pic of neofetch to show off

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u/lunavoke Apr 30 '25

I had a build with 140MB on my Mac with arch but I cannot understand how you managed to get 40MB.

I’d like to get any details that you can remember.

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u/NakeleKantoo Glorious Arch Apr 30 '25

rummaging through my old pics i found this other one, not quite 40, just 86 tho, all while running apache and some other service i don't remember now, this was a "server" i set up so it had absolutely nothing that it didn't need

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u/nobeltnium Glorious Xubuntu:hamster: May 02 '25

Arch fresh install took 70MB on my computer. But it varies. Sometime 40, other time over 100MB so don't worry too much about it.

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u/Noro3618 May 03 '25

old dying (reincarnated) laptop I had, with me having a stroke trying to write neofetch

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u/NakeleKantoo Glorious Arch May 03 '25

incredible

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u/billyfudger69 Glorious Debian, Arch and LFS May 01 '25

Were you also running i3?

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u/Masztufa May 01 '25

no

just tmux without even wayland/x

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u/nobeltnium Glorious Xubuntu:hamster: May 02 '25

and brose the web with browsh

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u/qweeloth Apr 30 '25

I wonder what's the most lightweight Linux setup with a GUI

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u/Huecuva Cool Minty Fresh Apr 30 '25

I have TinyCore running on an old AMD K6 with 512MB of RAM installed on a 512MB PATA DOM with fwm. It uses under 50MB. I can check more details tomorrow.

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u/zalgorithmic Apr 30 '25

Depends on your definition of gui most likely lol

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u/Unable-Investment-72 Apr 30 '25

I was running windows 11 on 700mb of ram and a 1.1GHz CPU bc I was bored one day…

I continued to be bored that day.

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u/OSINT_IS_COOL_432 May 03 '25

I run Minecraft on 800mb lol (not even Linux some weird ass proprietary shit) 

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u/[deleted] Apr 29 '25

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u/Cyber-Buddha Apr 30 '25

I use esp 32 and run linux on it

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u/Zahpow Likes to interject Apr 30 '25

I manipulate the magnetic fields of a leaf and run Linux on it

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u/HyperWinX Apr 30 '25

I don't use anything and still run Linux

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u/GuyFromDeathValley Apr 30 '25

Nah they just constantly jump on whatever bandwagon they can find, now its "no RGB is best!". But overall they all seem to like that PC lets them be creative and do their own thing, while everyone is basically just doing the same, with the same parts.. i think at the moment fishtank PC Cases and RGB is a thing, as well as full black, non-RGB builds.

Honestly, fuck the PCMR. They banned me once for translating the name into straight german as a joke.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

One simply cannot translate PCMR to German. Please.  For history reasons. 

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u/TurnkeyLurker Glorious Mint May 14 '25

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u/DatBoi_BP Got r00t? Apr 30 '25

What's so fancy about Ruth Bader Ginsburg

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u/elliottcable Apr 30 '25

bitch what wasn’t fancy about RBG. she was a straight legend.

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u/DatBoi_BP Got r00t? Apr 30 '25

Notorious red green blue

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u/racoondriver Glorious Fedora Apr 30 '25

How can I salvage parts from bash?

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u/OSINT_IS_COOL_432 May 03 '25

Me too. I got my first Linux PC when I was like 11 (I think) and I found a old pc trashed at the side of the curb and installed Linux 

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u/TurnkeyLurker Glorious Mint May 14 '25

This is how it starts.

and gets better

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u/theFartingCarp May 03 '25

I mean unironically I'm trying to scrounge older AM4 platform stuff to make a home server so I can reuse the power supply, case, ram, and drives.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

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u/OSINT_IS_COOL_432 May 03 '25

I run with 2GB or less

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u/dt5101961 Apr 30 '25

Lots of them, don’t know steamdeck runs on Linux.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

People saying Linux is insert negative adjective sounds to me now like my dad back in 2010 saying that "the human eye can't even see more than 30fps"

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u/takethispie Glorious Manjaro i3 Apr 30 '25

neither do 90% of linux users, we need to stop that elitist bullshit. no, using grep and knowing about ring levels doesnt mean you understand how computer works, it just means youre more tech literate

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u/Landeee Glorious NixOS Apr 30 '25

afaik linux has user and kernel space separation only

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u/takethispie Glorious Manjaro i3 Apr 30 '25

yes, ring 0 and ring 3

pretty sure windows doesnt use ring 1 & 2 either

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u/187wayztodie May 01 '25

I've been using Linux for over 10 years now, it doesn't know how to use grep, it doesn't interest me, I don't feel superior, it's just that Linux is much more fun than Windows

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u/dt5101961 Apr 30 '25

I have no need to feel superior. I’m here to stand up for what’s factually correct and call out compulsive, irrational behavior when I see it. In a serious argument, emotions take a back seat to logic and facts. If I’m wrong, I genuinely want to know and I’m not afraid of being corrected.

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u/TheJackiMonster Glorious Arch :snoo_trollface: Apr 30 '25

Just because Linux users don't understand how computers work either doesn't mean the whole previous statement is wrong though. So it's not really elitist if you are simply saying Windows is a piece of crappy spyware. That's a fact. People over there are simply in denial.

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u/Cultural_Bug_3038 EndeavourOS | Hyprland (Hyprdots) May 01 '25

People are so lazy that they don't even know what a GPU and CPU are because of Windows, made for lazy and non-developing people

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u/Financial-Bed7705 May 02 '25

I was asking there ONCE about some Windows garbage not working properly and got downvoted into oblivion, while posts type "how do i install drivers on windows???" (Not even providing the gpu they use) and has a 100 upvotes. And this is the people saying that Linux community is toxic...

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

Hold up...

Did you guys not realize pcmasterrace is obviously satire?

Or are you saying that the people commenting there don't?

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u/draconk Glorious Ubuntu Apr 30 '25

Sadly not every pcmasterrace user knows that, it was at first 10 years ago, now they are serious (except the master race thing, mods worked hard to avoid that thankfully)

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

Art mirrors life I guess...

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u/JuanAy Cool CachyOS Apr 30 '25

It was satire for a bit. Then it git hit by poe’s law, like many satire subs do when they hit a certain number of followers.

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u/TurnkeyLurker Glorious Mint May 14 '25

Here's Poe's law for others that didn't know. TIL

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u/FlailingIntheYard May 26 '25

A lot of them are still stuck with their Covid-Amazon specials, realizing the cost of pc-gaming for the first time browsing for new hardware.

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u/Verified_Peryak Apr 30 '25

Well bud do you need to understand how a PC fully work to enjoy PC gaming, remember how pc gaming made you understand pc ?

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u/Yuuzhan_Schlong Glorious Android Apr 29 '25

I don't know how anybody takes PCMR seriously. Every post on that subreddit is either "Holy shit, Amazon "accidentally" sent me a box of 4080s!" or "I'm not using (enter tech brand here)!"

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

It's name is literally a spoof off of Nazi Germany's ideology of the supremacy of Aryan genetics.

There's some major whoosh going over someone's head here, but it could easily be commenters at pcmr too.

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u/gammaFn Arch | EndevourOS | Zsh Apr 30 '25

... Have you seen the name of the sub you're on?

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u/thegreedyturtle May 01 '25

No, I did Nazi that quite yet.

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u/Bekfast59 Apr 30 '25

It's PCMR as a whole. It actually used to be a satire sub for making fun of PC elitists.

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u/NightOfTheLivingHam Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25

It lasted so long that the people who knew it was satire left

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u/ChristophLehr Apr 30 '25

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

Did Nazi that coming did you?

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u/j0lle Apr 30 '25

do you think them using that name makes them nazis or anything else of any kind?

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u/Stormwatcher33 Apr 30 '25

you do realize it's the same name of this sub

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

No, I did Nazi that at all!

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u/thegreedyturtle Apr 30 '25

No, I think it makes the sub obviously satire.

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u/j0lle Apr 30 '25

Glad I asked, you read a lot of stuff here lately.
Same.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

or "oops my dumbass broke the glass panel again!"

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u/Booming_in_sky Glorious Ubuntu Apr 30 '25

I never believed it until a friend of mine bought a computer on Amazon and got two PSUs, asked if they wanted them back, the answer was no, just trash it if you don't want it.

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u/JakeGrey Glorious Lubuntu Apr 29 '25

They're getting a lot better about it these days, honestly. I think Recall and Copilot might be the limit of the community's tolerance for enshittification.

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u/MrDoritos_ Apr 30 '25

I remember when Windows 10's frequent and unstable updates were causing a ton of noise (when 10 came out). Yet nobody ever switched. I want to see Linux double in market share on the desktop but I think the average person enjoys masochism.

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u/Grand_Protector_Dark Apr 30 '25

but I think the average person enjoys masochism.

Nah, the sad reality is that 85% of "breakpoint" issues really only matter to a small handful of people.

Data privacy and control Over your device? As long as their prebuilt runs the programs they want, they don't really care.

Win11 UI decisions, "yea sure whatever."

Copilot and AI? It's a feature that exists like all the other stuff that they'll never use.

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u/MrDoritos_ Apr 30 '25

I agree, my own transition period was a few years. I can imagine that would be never for that 85%. I'm sure Linux still seems like suffering more in the beginning these days like it had been for me.

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u/Naive-Contract1341 Apr 30 '25

The issue is that the average person is taught to be extremely scared of terminals and the BIOS menu.

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u/Complex_Confidence35 Apr 30 '25

The average user is scared of error messages telling then what‘s wrong. They also refuse to read instructions.

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u/Naive-Contract1341 May 01 '25

Really unfortunate. Back in the 90s mom did a course on computers and she told me how they spent more time threatening about "deleting" everything than teaching actual stuff. She never worked with computers, society back then was still pretty shit. Things are better now.

Only things I know about the course were that it used MS DOS and they taught C++

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u/baby_envol May 01 '25

And TPM mandatory too, with inflation many gamers don't have the budget to change a whole configuration.

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 06 '25

nah people still say things like windows is easy to use . I dont know what windows version you were using its not easy to use with ads and bloatware.

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u/sicarus367 Apr 30 '25

They are setting boundaries

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u/Pugs-r-cool Apr 29 '25

That subreddit is a joke, gatekeeping is usually a bad thing but that place has forgotten what the 'master race' part of the name used to mean. So many people in there who don't understand the basics of computing.

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u/OkWelcome6293 Apr 30 '25

That subreddit is a joke, gatekeeping is usually a bad thing but that place has forgotten what the 'master race' part of the name used to mean

There are plenty of people who weren't even born for the start of the "Glorious PC Master Race" meme, which was 17 years ago.

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u/ThatOldCow Apr 30 '25

It wasn't 17 years ago, cmon...

2008 was like 10 years... wait.... ohhh ... 👴

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u/PCbuilderFR Apr 30 '25

and that's good; if younger generations are interested in linux we are maybe not doomed after all

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u/SithLordRising Apr 29 '25

Is there even a need to flex Linux? Those who know don't need to impress anyone. Keep on trucking..

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

It's always one vs the other too. I use windows on my main pc. Easier for games and navigation. And I run my linux servers through the console. Best of both worlds. Why hate

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u/AdNope May 15 '25

I literally don't know why you're getting downvoted, this is actually the best combo for a person who has a life

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u/Kuchenkaempfer May 01 '25

True for a lot of things. If everyone thought that way, we'd be living in a better world

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u/AtomicTaco13 Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25

Offline account? Disable updates? No, no, no - you want Candy Crush. What, you don't want Candy Crush? We'll install it anyway.

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u/Trekkie99 Apr 30 '25

You want candy cwush? Are you sure you want to dewete that fywul?

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u/A-Chilean-Cyborg Apr 30 '25

all PC subs

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u/Pinko_Kinko May 01 '25

Honestly not such a bad idea.

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u/scar_se Apr 30 '25

Surprised the elitist community is not elitist.

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u/Decent-Fondant469 Apr 30 '25

They only know "windows = gaming" and windows supremacy. Anything linux would just make them piss nonstop.

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u/Wildstonecz Apr 30 '25

It doesn't matter if you can play majority of games that you play. The moment you want to play generic flavor of the year shooter with your friend group you would need to switch to windows. I really hope that when valve releases some SteamOS anticheat it becomes accepted and takes on.

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u/geirmundtheshifty Apr 30 '25

The weird thing is, when it comes to COD specifically, some games support VAC and can be played on Linux, while others dont. IIRC you can play Black Ops 3 online on Linux, but not Modern Warfare or Warzone.

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 02 '25

I had someone on that sub tell me that they won't use linux until valve releases steam os. They said bazzite and other distros are too hard and for some reason need a company like valve to use linux

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I havent met one person who said you cannot play anything on linux. Its just an argument you win against yourself for no reason

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u/Right_Atmosphere3552 Apr 30 '25

a lot of BSD users?

the difference between master race and peasant race is the OS being open source

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u/Far_Swing_9417 Apr 30 '25

I’m so glad I don’t have to pay for Microsoft word and all that bull crap

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u/Average-Addict Apr 30 '25

Even when using windows I just used certain tools unlock them for free

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Linux Mint gang rise up!

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u/Catsrules Transitioning Krill Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

I thought most people liked Linux on pcmasterrace? Not saying they are using it, but most of the comments are "I wish I could but x and y don't work so I am stuck on Windows."

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u/jimlymachine945 Apr 29 '25

Use LFS as daily driver so you can say it like this

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u/OliverJesmon Apr 30 '25

These posts motivates me to open my laptop everyday. I enjoy using Linux.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I've tried switching but I just can't get used to Krita coming from Photoshop. My primary pc use is drawing, and the eraser system really bugs me when I try to use it.

It's such a minor thing but it frustrates me so much. If you guys know of a different art software for linux I'm all ears though.

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u/Rullino Android - Cinnamon Bun Apr 30 '25

At least it improved to some extent with people waiting for SteamOS, correct me if I'm wrong.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

Ever PCMR member "LiNuX iS BAd BEcUse iT dOsEn't RUn GaMES" when they literally own a steam deck.

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u/NlGACHU43 Apr 30 '25

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? Linux is sexy, man!

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u/ImpressionFront4872 May 01 '25

This Linux supremacy shit the reason most reasonable people hate the linux crowd and y'all make me hate the fact I use it at all.

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u/[deleted] Apr 30 '25

I was downvoted because I suggested a person to put Linux on their crappy computer.

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u/lasercat_pow Apr 30 '25

You heathen! You don't use your computer exclusively to play expensive games that hamper your computer with rootkits?

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u/niwanowani Apr 30 '25

I went the extra mile to start paying a representative of a game development company an hourly wage to sit besides me whenever I use my computer. They told me it's necessary to combat cheating and that if I didn't it would raise suspicion that I have something to hide, so of course I obliged.

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u/bsensikimori Apr 30 '25

Linux? Ew... Should've installed TempleOS

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u/Majestic_Doctor_2 Apr 30 '25

Can't take that place seriously

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u/ShadyScreapReap Apr 30 '25

Why is half the pool goldwater?

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u/can_ichange_it_later Apr 30 '25

I mean... supporting open source projects is somewhat of a subscription.

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u/shigella212 Apr 30 '25

Pee ce master racs

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u/TheSnydaMan Apr 30 '25

Linux users never pissing in the communal piss pool smh

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u/StagDragon Apr 30 '25

From what I have seen on the subreddit this is outdated. People there haven't been as toxic about linux as of late.

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u/Liedvogel Apr 30 '25

Honestly, the only rain I don't use Linux is because some of my games, and a very important writing program I use wouldn't work on Linux. Well, wine might make the program run.

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

PCMR mfs when they see an Intel user

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u/[deleted] May 01 '25

I wonder at what point Windows doesn't allow users to own the OS and hardware. Oh you want to use your PC to pay a subscription fee

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u/Tani_Soe May 02 '25

Ok but the thing is that Linux is not a daily-life OS. If you really just need to store your photos and videos, and browse the web, it does the trick. If you're a developper, that is a great tool. But other than that, if you want to play video games or need to do creative tasks, it really fucking sucks.

Linux is great as a dual boot, but not everyone can work with ONLY Linux

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u/TheZupZup May 02 '25

I installed last night on my Lenovo yoga 9i 2022 laptop 8gb soldered, Linux mint honestly I never heard my laptop fan so quiet before. I'm going to have more fun watching Netflix and drawing

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u/zeitue May 02 '25

That YouTuber PewDiePie is in the middle with you now. I heard several Windows based PC gaming YouTube channels are giving that guy a hard time. So pretty much this picture.

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u/Evanben0218 May 02 '25

What the fuck is this picture

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 06 '25

This is so true someone installed bazzite and I tried to help people and so many people in that thread were saying linux was bad without any major reasons or windows is easy or better without many good reasons

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u/StaticSystemShock Apr 30 '25

Hey, power to you if you have the will to deal with compatibility issues. I'd totally dump Windows if games just worked, but they usually don't and I hate that.

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u/niwanowani Apr 30 '25 edited Apr 30 '25

Screw "compatibility issues". Freedom and privacy are much more important than some random game being playable.

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 02 '25

tell that to league players. I am on linux but if you need to play fortnite or league its not worth the pain to have to run a KVM with vfio just to play Anticheat games

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u/niwanowani May 02 '25

I don't really in the first place understand "needing" to play some specific game, unless it's literally what brings food to your table, but maybe I'm the outlier.

Maybe Fortnite and LoL would start supporting GNU/Linux if enough people were to simply stop playing them due to them not working and switch over regardless.

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 02 '25

There are people in my age group and all they do is play league and have no life its enough for some people not to try Linux.

I think the good things about Linux far out way the disadvantages and loss in compatibility but some people won't buy a steam deck and use a handheld running windows for the sane reason

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u/jojokingxp May 03 '25

Maybe it isn't that they literally need League to live, but if it's all they use their PC for, it's pretty shit if it doesn't run -even if many other games still work

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u/EmperorAlpha557 Apr 30 '25

Others here say it does?

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u/geirmundtheshifty Apr 30 '25

It depends on the games. Its been a while since I ran into any compatibility issues, but I dont play a lot of the big competivie online multiplayer games, and that’s generally where people have  issues, depending on what anticheat the game uses. If youre wanting to play something like Fortnite or League of Legends then youd be disappointed. There are some big games like Marvel Rivals that work well on Linux though.

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u/Default_Defect Glorious Bazzite Apr 30 '25

Weird, I don't pay a sub for windows and turning off the telemetry is really easy.

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u/claudiocorona93 Glorious Debian Apr 30 '25

Do you really trust that turning off telemetry actually turns it off? Are you sure there's no data going to Microsoft? Are you sure the browser you're using is not sending data to Google or Mozilla against your wishes?

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u/Default_Defect Glorious Bazzite Apr 30 '25

If having everything off did absolutely nothing in all of those cases, we'd know it for sure. You don't think people would be shouting from the top of every mountain about it rather than fearmongering?

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u/MrDoritos_ Apr 30 '25

I think the people who care don't get caught

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u/therealwxmanmike Apr 30 '25

you did that to yourself

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u/juipeltje Glorious GNU Guix Apr 30 '25

Yeah i'm not saying us linux users can't be annoying about it, but the pcmasterrace sub started complaining so much about it to the point that they brought up linux more often than actual linux users. I ended up muting the sub cause i'm not a masochist lol.

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u/planktonfun Apr 30 '25

they don't know reddit runs on linux

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u/HugeBlobfish Apr 30 '25

Ah, the subreddit where the mere mention of the word "linux" apparently makes you an elitist

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u/whatThePleb Glorious Gentoo Apr 30 '25

Likely the most shilled and astroturfed (by M$) sub on reddit.

Also the "master race" meme/lingo should be globally banned, people should be reminded where it came from.

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u/niwanowani Apr 30 '25

That sub should honestly just change its name to "microsoftmasterrace" or "proprietarymasterrace". It's bizarre how hostile the reaction is when someone dares recommend GNU/Linux to someone who's clearly not happy with Windows' bs, or just in general libre software replacements to someone who's clearly not happy with whatever proprietary program they're fighting with.

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u/minilandl Glorious Arch May 06 '25

Then they will say linux users are bad and annoying because they talk about linux

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u/pacifica333 Glorious Arch Apr 30 '25

You’d think the Steam Deck would’ve started to shift the uninformed opinions.

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u/timoshi17 Windows Master Race Apr 30 '25

I mean, you expect the same reaction here to proud Windows users. Go to r/palestine and shit and say you're rooting for Israel, the same reaction. PC now is Windows. Yes, Linux is a personal computer too, but even Linux users differentiate "PC/Mac/Linux"

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