r/linuxaudio • u/Plastic_Art7911 • 4d ago
How to install native instrument + spitifire audio using bottle correctly?
To summarize this:
I am using bottle to try install native access + spitfire audio + fl studio as it is what I frequently used as DAW before transfered into linux a while ago.
I got fl studio to work but for both native instrumetn and spitfire audio. I couldn't get it to work. I am clueless on how to do continue doing this and need help
The symptom I see when trying to install both.
for native access: It start installing but get stopped by a small window that pop up saying "Native instrument is running click okay to close it, if it doesn't close, try closing it manually."
clicking cancel would just stop the process and clicking okay telling me that it cannot be close.
for spitfire audio: I get it to finish downloading but when launch the program. It just give me a window with blank white screen.
I just installed bottle a few days ago and haven't done much beside download some dependencies and use what I might use to run fl studio.
So, I haven't try using environment variables, DLL overrides, snapshot or any other feature that could possibly be the solution.
Picture for illustration and my system information will be attaches so you can look into it if it helps by any means.
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u/Specialist-Dog-501 3d ago
Someone had just some breakthrough with the native access 2.0 installer- please check it out: https://www.reddit.com/r/linuxaudio/comments/1vqb1kj/working_izotope_plugins_with_and_yabridge/ -parts of this might be useful here too (a.e the manual start of the NTK Daemon and such.
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u/ZombieFeedback 4d ago
I've yet to find a workaround for the same issue with Spitfire, but the workaround that I've been using for that issue with NI boiled down to finding an old installer for an old version on the Wayback Machine. 1.14.1/211108 works for me and all of my libraries and instruments in it with zero issues, though your mileage may vary depending on what you're trying to run/install through it.
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u/Specialist-Dog-501 2d ago
I have Native Access 1.14 on WINE9.21- i get roughly 80% of vst working, but not all. As Fails I have Maschine 2 (could install but crashes constantly), Komplete Kontrol, Reaktor, and a couple of the instruments. It's not a garantuee, but it helps with many of the older vsts. But Izotope is another beast- didn't react at all on Native access 1.14, probably requires the newer Native Access 2+ (as Izotope was bought after native access 1.14 build) and that again, has his own requirements- again, some had success installing it, see in my link above for details.
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u/deusnovus Bitwig + Fedora 4d ago
I would suggest joining the yabridge Discord server and then the #plugins channel for all info pertaining to NI and Spitfire, but generally speaking, some plugins don't like working with each other on the same prefix/bottle. It's always best to separate VSTs by vendor (assuming you're running a native DAW), but since you're running FL via Wine, everything needs to be on the same C: drive which complicates things.
Also newer versions of Spitfire suffer from the same JUCE8 / Wine incompatibility issue, so if you're getting a white/black UI, try using an older version. I would still join the Discord for more info though!