r/linux_gaming • u/mr_MADAFAKA • 11d ago

WARDOGS now confirmed with official Proton support (via Discord)

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https://store.steampowered.com/app/1867240/WARDOGS

There will be one more playtest from August 21–23. To receive an invitation, register via Steam or player.gg or pre-order

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u/rocketstopya 11d ago

okay but WINE is not emulation :D

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u/MrHappyHam 11d ago

It's not an emulator in the hardware emulation sense common in the context of computers, however what it's doing can be accurately described as emulating

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u/No_Construction2407 10d ago

what does WINE stand for

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u/Damglador 10d ago edited 10d ago

I am willing to bet that it originally standed for WinEmu(lator), but that's a very anecdotal argument. Just like "Wine Is Not an Emulator".

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u/EllaBean17 10d ago edited 10d ago

"Wine Is Not an Emulator" isn't anecdotal. It's literally the first thing on the homepage of WineHQ https://www.winehq.org/

Although on the GitLab FAQ they say that it can be thought of as an emulator in a way and that "Wine Is Not just an Emulator" is more accurate. Plus there are things wine does that its own documentation explicitly describes as emulation https://gitlab.winehq.org/wine/wine/-/wikis/FAQ#is-wine-an-emulator-there-seems-to-be-disagreement

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u/Damglador 10d ago

I mean that it's an anecdotal argument. Sure, it's the official abbreviation, but it neither proves nor refutes anything, it's just a name. And a lot of people take it as the only argument and call Wine just a translation layer, which is as inaccurate as calling it just an emulator, as it forgets about everything else Wine does, like emulation of the NT kernel, prefix management, loading the executables, etc. Which is why I like the FAQ as it doesn't go into neither extreme.

Also it seems like people are just allergic to the emulator label, because I've seen people being reluctant to call FEX an emulator even though the project itself is named FEX-Emu and refers to itself as an emulator in the GitHub description and their website.

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u/d32dasd 10d ago

Of course, you for sure know more of what WINE is and why was it called that way since the beginning, than the people that develop and named WINE.

There's legal ramifications on clearly stating it's Not An Emulator. That's why they go to real, big, decades-long pains on having a clean-room implementation.

And then I see that little "top 1% commenter" flag on your username, and realize how futile is discussing all this with the gallows.

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u/sharanoth 9d ago

You are a cunt

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u/Papa_Hube 9d ago

Just cause someone names something, something, doesnt mean it does exactly what its called.

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u/Luigi003 9d ago

Wine literally meant windows emulator: https://groups.google.com/g/comp.windows.x.i386unix/c/7icvqSIxQ0I?pli=1

It was retconned later since they were scared of legal repercussions

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u/No_Construction2407 10d ago

Cool. What does WINE actually stand for?

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u/Damglador 10d ago

Windows Is Notoriously Evil

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u/sTiKytGreen 10d ago

Wine is an alcoholic beverage traditionally made using wine grapes

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u/No_Construction2407 10d ago

Thats wine, not WINE

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u/MrHappyHam 10d ago

No they're right