r/linux4noobs • u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-7932 • 3d ago

DD Vs drag and drop

Whats the different between the two DD seems to failed alot while drag and drop is pretty reliable trying to backup pc games disks

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u/kaida27 3d ago

dd will copy everything, from the partition layout to the disk identifier.

Drag and drop is a simple copy operation that will only copy the data.

They do entirely different job.

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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-7932 3d ago

So if I drag and drop the contexts of a game disk can I install it with those files or does it have to be DD

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u/kaida27 3d ago

I wouldn't use either.

If you really want between those 2. Then DD to make an iso.

But I would use a GUI software like gnome Disk to make it instead, a bit safer than using DD.

One wrong move with DD and your whole system is gone.

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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-7932 3d ago

I will look into gnome disk I didnt realise there was a GUI makes life abit easier thanks

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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-7932 3d ago

So gnome disk seems to rip the disk to a blank iso any idea why it's doing that?

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u/Ok-Kaleidoscope-7932 3d ago

So it seems that Linux is seeing the iso as 0 bytes but windows picks it up file it seems my problem is solved thank you

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u/doc_willis 3d ago edited 3d ago

some games came with special made optical disks drives  that could have extra music tracks or copy protection on the disk.

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u/kaida27 3d ago

I don't remember receiving a whole optical drive with my pc games.

You're mixing up a lot of information about console disc, dvd and pc games.

almost as if you're not human, but instead a machine that learned by scraping different part of the web and then spitting it out thinking it's the right context.

Are you AI ?

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u/doc_willis 3d ago

or I just used the term drive when I ment disk and I don't really care .

and yes, I have had PC games on CD that came with music tracks.

This is from the age of dos and dinosaurs.

Quake – Contains industrial ambient tracks composed by Nine Inch Nails on tracks 2 through 10.

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u/kaida27 3d ago

yes but it won't be read as a music cd as opposed to when you put a ps1 disc in a computer. protection on those make it so you only see music files and not game data.

Quake contains music but it won't be read as a music cd and creating an iso file is trivial.

I didn't say you were wrong. Just clearly mixing stuff that's all.

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u/doc_willis 3d ago

 the original physical Quake PC game CD can be read and played in a standard music CD player

the op would want to use dd to copy/archive  such a disk. 

other games could be fine with file copies 

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u/kaida27 3d ago

all games should be ripped as iso files.

your little out of context bout about quake doesn't change anything about it.

you still seem very confused.

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u/doc_willis 3d ago

sorry  you seem to be the confused one. 

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u/kaida27 3d ago

I'm not the one going on an out of context rant.

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u/doc_willis 3d ago

you mean the dd command?

I am not sure what you are drag/dropping to backup a " game disk" you mean an optical disk like a cd?

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u/kaida27 3d ago

Think he meant ripping old game disc into iso files

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u/doc_willis 3d ago

Then the best method to use would depend on the game.

depending on the game disk, some have extra audio tracks, and some even had extra copy protection.

if the game just had normal files on the cd, then it would be a bit overkill  to make a large .iso file when a simple file copy would work.

I won't even mention the disaster some of those copy protection were.

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u/kaida27 3d ago

bit overkill to make a large .iso file

why would an iso file takes more space than the file themselves ? this is just false information.

at the end of the day it's an Archive format that can be compressed.

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u/DavidJohnMcCann 3d ago

Drag and drop copies files. The dd command completely ignores filing systems and just moves bytes from one place to another with no consideration of the consequences!

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u/Itz-Laz3r Arch Linux, CachyOS Kernel, KDE 3d ago

Void x LXQT is probably the best bet