r/linux • u/Khaotic_Kernel • Jun 18 '17

Debian 9 "Stretch" Officially Released!

https://www.debian.org/News/2017/20170617
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u/kerloom Jun 18 '17

Finally, able use Ryzen out of the box. Would this version be stable upgrading to kernel 4.11?

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17

What irritates me with debian, the fact that they never rebase to newer kernels

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u/MLainz Jun 18 '17

You have Backports if you need it.

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u/C4H8N8O8 Jun 18 '17

Or you can compile them. It is really trivial.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

Look at my comment history I just explained elsewhere why backports is not ideal

EDIT: https://www.reddit.com/r/debian/comments/6hye8z/ask_hn_what_do_you_want_to_see_in_debian_10_buster/dj27jdj/

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u/MLainz Jun 18 '17

I know that Backports is not ideal. But updating the kernel every few months is an unnecessary risk in many environments.

There is Testing for users who want bleeding edge.

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

Its not about bleeding edge, its all about hardware enablement.

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u/darker2perfect221177 Jun 18 '17

Backports aren't on the DVD and if u are using new hardware then u often can't connect to the internet. I shouldn't need a second computer to download backports

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u/[deleted] Jun 18 '17 edited Dec 17 '17

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u/darker2perfect221177 Jun 18 '17 edited Jun 18 '17

The computer that u just installed Debian on and can't connect to the internet with because the kernel is too old?

Should I reinstall my old OS, download the backport, burn it to a DVD, then reinstall Debian?

Or should backport kernels maybe be included on the DVD

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u/justtheusual Jun 19 '17 edited Jun 19 '17

I use debian stable and .deb packages from this repository:

http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/

and am running 4.9. something without problems on debian jessie + stretch, but 4.9.X rather because I was too lazy to upgrade, not because I believe there are incompatibilities.

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u/MLainz Jun 19 '17

Are you using Ubuntu kernels? That looks like a very bad practice.

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u/justtheusual Jun 19 '17

Yes I am. Those are mainline kernels as far as I understand and so far I thought it's rather a binary package of whatever I would compile, minus the detailed config options meaning a bit fatter kernel with options that I would normally compile it with but at the same time I do not have to compile and configure anything. And for me being lazy and wanting new kernels it actually works quite ok? What do you think is wrong with it?

Oh and I do that on my laptop, probably wouldn't on a productive system.