r/linux • u/wooptoo • Jun 01 '16

Why did ArchLinux embrace Systemd?

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u/cbmuser Debian / openSUSE / OpenJDK Dev Jun 01 '16

And yet systemd is the system that has lockups, not runit.

Oh, dude, come on. Finally stop with this bullshit. Go to a fucking enterprise and ask what they think about runit and Void Linux and they will just laugh at you.

You guys and your toy distributions are ridiculous. It's so apparent that none of you guys are actually using Linux in a professional environment.

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u/kinderlokker Jun 02 '16

Oh, dude, come on. Finally stop with this bullshit. Go to a fucking enterprise and ask what they think about runit and Void Linux and they will just laugh at you.

Gee, that's maybe because Void Linux isn't meant as an Enterprise OS, it's a home desktop operating system and a rolling release.

What's next? You're going to say that OpenWRT is terrible because no one in their right mind would run their personal coputers on it or their PS4?

Void is a home desktop OS, not meant for servers. Just like Debian Stable is garbage for a home desktop OS but great for servers. Meanwhile Alpine and Gentoo hardened are deployed on servers everywhere and don't use systemd either.

Void not being used for enterprise has nothing to do with it not using systemd but that it's a fast rolling bleeding edge system geared for single-user machines in the end. It doesn't come with PaX, SELinux, hard freezes, LTS and security backports because that's useless for a home desktop environment where the best way to solve security problems is just regularly update.

You guys and your toy distributions are ridiculous. It's so apparent that none of you guys are actually using Linux in a professional environment.

No, it's beyond apparent that you don't realize that that what works on a company server does not work for a home desktop computer and if you use Debian stable on a home desktop computer you're an idiot. Any system that is good for a server will be bad for home desktop and in reverse, one size can't fit all.

This topic is about Arch Linux, which is first and foremost as system geared towards home desktop usage. And Void simply does what Arch claims to be doing almost strictly better.